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Ira
Posts: 24677 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/14/2001 Member: #91 |
11/30/2017 3:56 PM
I'd move him for the right return. But until that comes, he's valuable here.
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Finestrg
Posts: 27296 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/1/2006 Member: #1069 |
12/1/2017 1:47 PM LAST EDITED: 12/1/2017 1:53 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Finestrg wrote:Here's why nothing they did adds up to me -- I don't remember that comment from KP but what's he really supposed to say there when asked specifically about the triangle? You think maybe he wasn't telling the full story?? Sounds like a guy at the end of his 2nd season supporting the team president who just drafted him into the NBA. If you recall after the season was over, it looked like he had a different opinion of Phil, though, right? Blowing off his exit interview and such.. Point is no one liked the triangle, from the coach right down to the players. I honestly believe that.. Frank's OK, does some positive things, but he's clearly got A WAYS to go -- and on both sides of the ball too (not like he's some kind of all-league defender right now which a lot of people are making him out to be. I don't see that yet, and his D if far better than his O). I see a guy out there struggling with his handle and he very rarely goes to the basket. True or no?? I'd love a guy that can get out in transition and take it coast to coast, a guy that can break down the defense and get all the way to the goal for either a score or an easy dump off to a big for 2. We don't have that. Not with Jack, not with Frank. Jeff obviously wants to play at a quicker pace but I don't think he has all the ingredients to make that happen yet. Courtney raises a good point -- look at how his game has flourished playing at a faster pace. This is the best Lee's looked as a Knick. A legit uptempo PG would open up so many things for this team, from the other guards to the bigs down low. |
Ira
Posts: 24677 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/14/2001 Member: #91 |
12/1/2017 3:25 PM
What is there about Dennis Smith that makes people wish we took him. His shooting percentages are all low; as pointed out, his assist/turnover ratio is low; his defense is or really isn't. On top of that he's had significant knee problems in the past.
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29851 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
12/1/2017 3:32 PM
We don't field the same team as last year. Different isn't automatically the cause of success or failure. We didn't have Kanter last year and is making all the difference in the world this yr. What would the team be if we had Kanter last yr or if we didn't have Kanter this yr. And that's just one change that has nothing to do with system.
I don't even know why these things still continue to be brought up at this point. Who cares anymore. What can we do going forward to build a contender. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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TripleThreat
Posts: 23106 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/24/2012 Member: #3997 |
12/1/2017 7:20 PM
Ira wrote:What is there about Dennis Smith that makes people wish we took him. His shooting percentages are all low; as pointed out, his assist/turnover ratio is low; his defense is or really isn't. On top of that he's had significant knee problems in the past. He passes the "eye test" for rare athleticism, even for an NBA player. The guy has serious hops and when he slashes, he runs highlight reel plays taking to the cup. From a raw tool standpoint, if he had A) Gone to a different school It's hard to estimate the impact of some kid seeing a commercial with Lil'Penny and then realizing a douche like Penny Hardaway was going to the Finals and banging a prime Tyra Banks. Even Larry Johnson got a commercial. As the story goes, Kendall Gill, a pretty decent shooting guard for the Sonics back in the day, went completely berserk when he found out he wasn't going to get the same kind of commercial appeal/marketing/shoe deal like other players. Then he sulked basically the rest of his career. I think it was Mookie Blaylock who was the worst parts of James Harden before there was a James Harden, basically sending every strippers family into wealth single handedly. You can jump out of a gym, but you can't fix stupid. Dr J used to get cut off from broadcasts at times, because there were times he was just too open about it all, i.e. the league administration, coaches, GMs, scouts, agents, they are all really tired of the horse**** that comes with a bunch of childish greedy players in a "players league" When Jerry Sloan hung it up, that was a tipping point for a lot of people. When LBJ tried to drive out Erik Spolestra, that also made it pretty ugly within the leagues inner circle of owners. I keep making the comparison of a NBA team and it's players like a "marriage" It's the same one sided financial **** show like a real American marriage. No accountability on one side, just financial destruction and trying to manage a childish "adult" on the other. You know what's the problem with a busted up Tinder thot who sucks a mean c0ck? She's sucking everyone else c0ck too. This is why teams walked past Smith Jr. You don't ring up a whore. Yeah, he can jump out of a gym. Until he gets caught speeding 180 on a freeway with an Uzi in the front seat and ten kilos of coke in the trunk. DSJr should have been the first overall pick on talent alone. The problem is he's an idiot. Maybe Dallas got a keeper. Maybe he will change and can change. If he can, good for him. But you don't marry a whore and expect a housewife. That's what drafting DSJr would have been. Maybe down the road, the culture for the Knicks can help fix a guy like DSJr, but definitely not now. |
nyknickzingis
Posts: 23029 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/8/2015 Member: #6207 |
12/2/2017 7:37 AM LAST EDITED: 12/2/2017 7:39 AM
Knicks are not playing at a higher pace after Phil Jackson.
Lee saying right here "point blank" they're playing a faster pace now We are 24/30 (7th worst) in the league in pace. We are averaging 104.5 points a game, which is 18/30 in the NBA (13th worst). Last year we were at 104.3 points a game which was 19/30 in the NBA (12th worst). The biggest difference in this year's team is the ball movement and KP's improvement. This year's team is Melo/Rose/cancer ball free. They move the ball and play the right way. They are the fifth best team in the league in assists, and are a very good ball movement team. You can't say we play faster because the stats don't prove it all. Dennis Smith was much more like Rose and Melo, and would have not allowed this to happen. Frank brings a culture to the team that fits what we're trying to be. Hard working on defense. Pass first. Team work. This is what Phil wanted for the team and we're seeing it right now. Knick fans need to thank Phil, he did what we needed at that time a critical part of the rebuilding process. Ask, who hired Jeff Hornachek? Was not Mills. It was Phil. Who drafted Kristaps? And trust me, when Frank plays well, that is exactly the type of player you want on a team that will play around KP. We saw how poorly DRose blended in with KP. I'm one hundred percent with Phil on that one. Dennis Smith would have been great individually but bad for KP and the Knicks overall team play. Look at the Mavs record. Are you saying we have more talent than them? The Knicks have a core now that plays the right way and can keep getting better together. Credit to Mills for adding THJ to that young group. We're headed in the right direction and have to keep drafting well. I see nothing here to be upset about that we don't have Dennis Smith. |