I agree getting Payton wouldn't really do much and only make us older. Wallace and Jackson are both young and can make us very competitive. The only thing is i don't really want to trade Sprewell or Camby so hopefully they can get something done and keep both of them.

Well I think GS is playing hardball and is looking to cash in on Marc Jackson. They aren't interested in making an honest deal but are trying to get the most out of it. I mean they want Mike Miller from Orlando for Marc Jackson, now that's a bogus trade or what?

It was something in the order of a draft pick plus a PG plus cash that would get us Marc. Still interested? I'm not.

I'd want to retain draft picks for at least the upcoming two drafts and even try to get some more draft picks.

Wacky wallace trade rumor was something along the lines of Houston, Othella and Crazy eyes for Wallace and Wells. I'd be very pleased with this trade.

I think the best deal we can do that is reasonable is Houston and Thomas a maybe cash or picks included for Wallace because i really can't see Portland taking Houston, Thomas, and Harrington for Wallace and Wells. I would consider trading Sprewell and Thomas for Wallace, but i love Sprewell and i'd be worried about the team's heart and spirit because thats what Sprewell is for the Knicks. I worked out a three way deal on Real GM Trade Checker that would send Foyle and Jackson to Portland along with Houston and Thomas. Wallace would come to New York and Dale Davis would go to Golden State(trade checker 449374). Either way i think getting Wallace and not trading at least Camby would be the best trade for the team.

I would rather take Houston, I seriously believe that even if Webber was here, Spree would be taking the last shots of the game. He's too much of a headcase and he and Wallace in the same lockerroom could get us in trouble. I'd rather trade Spree and Thomas, get Wallace, and then look @ that Artest deal for a SF.

knicksbabyyeah where can you get info on those players you mentioned. I know Kalid but the others I'd like to know more about, specially that F-C you mentioned first.

Anyways If you can get Wallace for Spree and Camby you should do it. Wallace is a better rebounder than Camby who really only gets so many rebounds because he's the only size the knicks have. But unlike Wallace camby doesn't have an offensive game other than put backs. Wallace would dominate in the east and can easilly get 25 and 12. Houston would also play better since he would get way more open shots since Wallace will be doubled a lot.

If you can do something like Houston and Camby it would even be better since even though Spree isn't as good a shooter his shot percentage would improve due to the open shots.

A trade like Houston Camby and Thomas(or Harrington/weatherspoon) for Wallace, wells(or Patterson) and Bounje Bounje would be great for NY

They get two explosive players to play along side Spree and they get a rookie C who is a good rebounder and shot blocker.

I made a trade in realgm between Ny, Por, and Chi where you had

NY trade Camby and Houstoon for Wallace, Artest and Bounje Bounje

Portland trade Wallace, wells and Bounje for Miller, Houston, Fizer, and Harrington

Chicago trade Miller, Artest, Fizer for Camby and Wells

I think Chicago gets too much though so maybe they giove up a pick or something, probably to portland.

http://www.thenewrepublic.com/021400/coverstory021400.html

Y'all ought to read it.

I really want to trade Houston, Thomas, and extras for Wallace and would probably trade Sprewell and Thomas for him as well. I think Houston fits their team better, but Spree is more valuable so i think they would still prefer him. Let's just hope Wallace doesn't land in Washington because then we would be in trouble.

I keep hearing people on this board talking about how houston would fit their ( Portland ) team better. I just think we have to worry about us first. If you look at it Sprewell isn't a shooter, and with Wallace that's what we are going to need, a pure shooter. Let guys like Shandan, hopefully Artest, Postel, and Houston fill in that one small void of a slashing game. I never saw a team go far without being able to make three's. I know a lot of people are attached to Spree but if we could trade him and just Thomas it would be the least costly method of aquiring him. Why add Harrington just to hold on to Spree, it's guys with his kinda contract that are going to make us respectable cap-wise.

my first reaction is that I would do a Wallace for Spree trade in a second - you always do a big for small trade, everything else equal. But then I realized that Wallace is kinda in the last year of his contract, with next year at his option. I don't think that puts Wallace in the driver’s seat, but that mean you have to sign him to a long-term deal or lose him. That's a lot to undertake, especially considering he still acts like a nut in a contract year.