franco12 wrote:I thought you were going to suggest packaging both to move up- which would be nice if we could get to 8-10.At some point, it might be worth discussing trading Noah and clearing his salary from our cap and packaging both and getting cap room and maybe late 1st rounder - sort of what the Lakers did with Moz.
This is not the NFL.
How often does a team in the 8-10 pick range move a trade for, as the original post projects, a 15+ plus pick plus a high 2nd round pick (even if it's the first pick in the 2nd round)
The 8-10 pick range is likely a Tier 3 or Tier 4 first round pick. A 15 plus pick is in the "cloud" i.e the range of guys where it's all a crapshoot based on need and potential.
If a team moves back or up, they are moving, at most, a few slots. This is actually established in NBA draft history. What you are suggesting is what would amount to an anomaly in the marketplace and it's history.
IF the Knicks had 8-10 in a pick, would you want them to move it for 15+ and a high 2nd? Then why should the other team?
What the Lakers are doing has no shape or form in any similarity to the Knicks. The Lakers, and well as the rest of the league, KNOW that LBJ and PG13 are going there as free agents, barring catastrophic injury. When they clear space, they KNOW what they are clearing it for and why.
The EASIEST trade right now is moving Noah for Luol Deng. Money is about the same, contract is about the same. Both ugly. Maybe the Lakers could use a center rather than a wing. (Wings are more valuable) It's a 'challenge trade', my bloated ugly overpaid problem for your bloated ugly overpaid problem.
Noah has no trade value. Given many teams are in the tax zone and the league in general will be cap locked for the next few offseasons, the value of cap space has spiked again. Meaning to move Noah, the price has gone up.
While it sucks, it might just be easier for the team to organically let Noah expire. Even a last year stretch is a three year hit. A buyout only makes sense if the Knicks can recoup a good chunk of cash, and since no team really wants Noah other than the vets minimum at this point, that's probably not going to happen.
No one wants Noah. I'd argue no one wanted him when the Knicks signed him, not to a four year deal. They basically bid against themselves. They "A-Rod-ed" themselves. Idiots.
As much as I'd want them to, the Knicks are not making the playoffs. They are no where near contention level. They are not one player away from contention level. The teams who are in strong positions now, that took time, a lot of time. In the NBA, the builds are just slow, it's the nature of the limited talent pool and the way the cap and contracts work.
11/21/2017 6:26 PM