If this team keeps this up, we suddenly will be a very attractive option for some of the top FAs this offseason.

According to two of the scenarios I listed in the above spreadsheet the could conceivably create room for 1 and maybe even 2 max contracts. The numbers are pretty close and I assumed a 5 million increase to the cap (which mirrors the increase we saw coming into this season).

Teams that generally win championships in today's NBA have most to all of these main elements:

1.At least 2 of the top 15-20 players in the NBA
2.A very strong role player core to complement the star players which consists of most or all of the following:
-Strong rebounder to do the dirty work
-One or more marksman 3 and D players
-Defenders who can shut down most or all of the 5 positions on the court either off the bench or as one of your star players
3. A very good offensive ball movement system

With KP's emergence, this team has all those elements except for the second superstar. And I believe if they can work something out with OQuinn and/or Kanter opting out and then resigning them after signing their key outside FA they can keep one or both those players by going over the salary cap.

We could have a monster team next year to compete with the big boys if things keep trending positively and KP's cements himself as one of the NBA top superstars.

Nothing has occurred over the first 14 games that can't up undone over the next 68.

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:they'll reestablih or not based on season-end results.

Nothing has occurred over the first 14 games that can't up undone over the next 68.

The dysfunction is gone. The Knicks are not playing an antiquated offense. It appears that the franchise is going to have a coach complete two full seasons and possibly a third which hasn't happened in a long time (Dantoni?). I think a lot has been fixed.

I hope and think maybe it is. But I've seen too much to not simply wait.

They will know that some of the work in building a good roster, has already been done. They can do more than just help the team get to the playoffs. Maybe help them get to the next level.

Knickoftime wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:they'll reestablih or not based on season-end results.

Nothing has occurred over the first 14 games that can't up undone over the next 68.

The dysfunction is gone. The Knicks are not playing an antiquated offense. It appears that the franchise is going to have a coach complete two full seasons and possibly a third which hasn't happened in a long time (Dantoni?). I think a lot has been fixed.

I hope and think maybe it is. But I've seen too much to not simply wait.

I don't think what we are seeing from KP is a fluke. You are seeing a guy with his otherworldly size ,athletic ability, absolute sweet stroke and BBall IQ coming into his own in his third year and without having to defer anymore to Carmelo.

If he stays healthy that in itself says Knick basketball should be better this year.

Add in the departure of the heavy hand of Jackson trying to force his antiquated triangle and we have a harmonious team and front office sharing the same vision.

Also Kanter's play has been severely underrated. he is a rebounding monster and cannot be stopped under the basket. An amazing complement to KP. You let him opt out then resign him AFTER signing a big fish or two (James,George,Cousins,Paul). If one of the guys you get is Cousins you maybe let Kanter go and sign OQuinn by the same method.

McDermott I think is absolute hustle on the court and in constant motion. He has a very quick release and infinite range.

Loving this team and Hornacek's offense is really taking advantage of our players strengths.

VCoug wrote:Maybe, but we're not going to have much cap space next year. The cap is supposed to stabilize after exploding the past few years so we're only gonna have a few million in cap space, will probably only have the MLE to play with.

Look at above spreadsheet. Even if the cap doesn't go up (I predicted a 5 mill increase) we still should be at minimum able to create room for 1 max and another decent sized contract. If Perry thinks we can land one of the big studs and believes it means a true contender then it could very likely happen.

KnixinSix wrote:

VCoug wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:

VCoug wrote:Maybe, but we're not going to have much cap space next year. The cap is supposed to stabilize after exploding the past few years so we're only gonna have a few million in cap space, will probably only have the MLE to play with.

Look at above spreadsheet. Even if the cap doesn't go up (I predicted a 5 mill increase) we still should be at minimum able to create room for 1 max and another decent sized contract. If Perry thinks we can land one of the big studs and believes it means a true contender then it could very likely happen.

Scenario 1 requires us to stretch/waive a bunch of players which I'm generally opposed to. Obviously, if a true superstar wants to sign here we should do it but otherwise I would just suck it up. Scenario 2 doesn't work. In order to go over the cap to re-sign Kanter and KOQ we need their Bird rights. That means there will be a cap hold based on their last contract which would be at least $25M. Also, how are we trading Courtney Lee and/or Lance Thomas without taking back a contract?

If they opt out and then resign we can't go over the cap to sign them?

We can but their Bird rights count against the cap. We don't get that cap space unless we waive their Bird rights and if we do that we can't go over the cap to re-sign them.

VCoug wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:

VCoug wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:

VCoug wrote:Maybe, but we're not going to have much cap space next year. The cap is supposed to stabilize after exploding the past few years so we're only gonna have a few million in cap space, will probably only have the MLE to play with.

Look at above spreadsheet. Even if the cap doesn't go up (I predicted a 5 mill increase) we still should be at minimum able to create room for 1 max and another decent sized contract. If Perry thinks we can land one of the big studs and believes it means a true contender then it could very likely happen.

Scenario 1 requires us to stretch/waive a bunch of players which I'm generally opposed to. Obviously, if a true superstar wants to sign here we should do it but otherwise I would just suck it up. Scenario 2 doesn't work. In order to go over the cap to re-sign Kanter and KOQ we need their Bird rights. That means there will be a cap hold based on their last contract which would be at least $25M. Also, how are we trading Courtney Lee and/or Lance Thomas without taking back a contract?

If they opt out and then resign we can't go over the cap to sign them?

We can but their Bird rights count against the cap. We don't get that cap space unless we waive their Bird rights and if we do that we can't go over the cap to re-sign them.

Ahhh, Then that means O'Quinn becomes the much more likely one to do this with.

Jmpasq wrote:

KnixinSix wrote:

If this team keeps this up, we suddenly will be a very attractive option for some of the top FAs this offseason.

According to two of the scenarios I listed in the above spreadsheet the could conceivably create room for 1 and maybe even 2 max contracts. The numbers are pretty close and I assumed a 5 million increase to the cap (which mirrors the increase we saw coming into this season).

Teams that generally win championships in today's NBA have most to all of these main elements:

1.At least 2 of the top 15-20 players in the NBA
2.A very strong role player core to complement the star players which consists of most or all of the following:
-Strong rebounder to do the dirty work
-One or more marksman 3 and D players
-Defenders who can shut down most or all of the 5 positions on the court either off the bench or as one of your star players
3. A very good offensive ball movement system

With KP's emergence, this team has all those elements except for the second superstar. And I believe if they can work something out with OQuinn and/or Kanter opting out and then resigning them after signing their key outside FA they can keep one or both those players by going over the salary cap.

We could have a monster team next year to compete with the big boys if things keep trending positively and KP's cements himself as one of the NBA top superstars.

with what cap room? Noah is the only way we get better without giving up a useful piece that hurts the team. The only way to get better is we hit a home run on a SF in the draft. That will determine whether we are a solid 45 win team for the next 5 or so years or a legit championship contender

Yeah, we need Nicotine to pan out and we need to get a wing from somewhere. I'd like to trade for Hezonja because I still think he could be something and I'm assuming Orlando would be willing to basically give him away.

Would this general team let's say (minus Kanter ,keeping OQuinn,waive/stretching Noah's contract) and adding LeBron legitimately vie for a championship?

Roughly speaking:

Oquinn/Henrnangomez
KP
Lebron/Hardaway
Lee/Hardaway/Dotson
Frank/Jack or FA

And a decent to deep bench?

With KP and LeBron both being two way top 5 players in the NBA and good role players around them+ a second year Frank running the point, I say yes.

-OR- let's say (minus Kanter ,keeping OQuinn,waive/stretching Noah's contract,trading or stretching Lee) and adding Cousins and George?

Roughly speaking:

Cousins/Oquinn/Henrnangomez
K.P.
Paul George/Hardaway
Hardaway/Dotson
Frank/Jack or FA

And a decent to deep bench?