arkrud wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Knicks have, so far, exceeded my expectations but we ARE only 10 games into the season. I am trying to contain my excitement considering that we went 16-16 last year before the wheels fell off. Those of us who actually believe that OKC will continue to perform at this level is not being honest with themselves.

yeah, im trying to curb my excitement as well, because we were 500 or above the first 2 months of the last 2 seasons. I think the problem with okc is that they are top heavy and the bench is super suspect.

whooa--Frosty #s last night for their big 3

Melo-4-17
Pg13-4-16
WB -7-21

kp-8-13

Wonder if Melo ever had 28 points on 13 shots...
KP looked really tired yesterday but still had major impact on the game on both ends.
KP personality alone makes teammates play on another level.
There are things that cannot be learned.
They just there or not.

I must admit, I did not think he was ready, and he actually has leadership skills that I didn't see in him at all..

I think it's really tough to play with a scoring pg who cares more about his #s, maybe that's why KD left, and if melo and pg13 end up bouncing out, we will all know why..

kP, is like steph curry, even though they get a lot of touches, they seem to never force anything

Swishfm3 wrote:Knicks have, so far, exceeded my expectations but we ARE only 10 games into the season. I am trying to contain my excitement considering that we went 16-16 last year before the wheels fell off. Those of us who actually believe that OKC will continue to perform at this level is not being honest with themselves.

It's fun watching these Knicks play right now but be careful with thinking this will last. I hope it does but i don't think it will. We have a big test coming starting with Orlando who's playing well right now and then we finish out Nov with a tough schedule. We have Toronto twice, Clev, Houston, Utah/ Portland, LA Clips and finish Nov with Miami so i'll be really interested in seeing what our record is Dec 1st. Even if it doesn't last i'm alright with it cause we're still a couple pieces away from where we want to be and this unit is gonna come together more throughout this season. It's a young team of guys that all seem to like each other and like playing with each other and free agents are seeing what's going on. The excitement is back in the Garden and opposing players are seeing it and the ones that we play in the Garden are hearing it so all of this is gonna help us in free agency and KP is such a likable player that free agents will once again have their eyes open when considering the Knicks in free agency.

Good days are ahead for the New York Knicks.

newyorker4ever wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Knicks have, so far, exceeded my expectations but we ARE only 10 games into the season. I am trying to contain my excitement considering that we went 16-16 last year before the wheels fell off. Those of us who actually believe that OKC will continue to perform at this level is not being honest with themselves.

It's fun watching these Knicks play right now but be careful with thinking this will last. I hope it does but i don't think it will. We have a big test coming starting with Orlando who's playing well right now and then we finish out Nov with a tough schedule. We have Toronto twice, Clev, Houston, Utah/ Portland, LA Clips and finish Nov with Miami so i'll be really interested in seeing what our record is Dec 1st. Even if it doesn't last i'm alright with it cause we're still a couple pieces away from where we want to be and this unit is gonna come together more throughout this season. It's a young team of guys that all seem to like each other and like playing with each other and free agents are seeing what's going on. The excitement is back in the Garden and opposing players are seeing it and the ones that we play in the Garden are hearing it so all of this is gonna help us in free agency and KP is such a likable player that free agents will once again have their eyes open when considering the Knicks in free agency.

Good days are ahead for the New York Knicks.

Loses will come for sure. And Orlando game is always lock to be a loss.
It is not about we win or lose he games. It is about how we do it.
Team is learning to keep the lead and to come back.
We are still need to learn how to dominate and contend and this will take time and more moves.
Fans started to panic right after the start of the season and now are getting to high.
Its fine - that what fans are all about.
If organization contrary will continue steady heady team building process we will have success regardless of consequences and inevitable variance of pro sport.

magicTs wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:Knicks have, so far, exceeded my expectations but we ARE only 10 games into the season. I am trying to contain my excitement considering that we went 16-16 last year before the wheels fell off. Those of us who actually believe that OKC will continue to perform at this level is not being honest with themselves.

yeah, im trying to curb my excitement as well, because we were 500 or above the first 2 months of the last 2 seasons. I think the problem with okc is that they are top heavy and the bench is super suspect.

whooa--Frosty #s last night for their big 3

Melo-4-17
Pg13-4-16
WB -7-21

kp-8-13

I was at the Garden last night to witness our 2nd consecutive comeback. I had good seats in Section 7 right beside the Knicks bench and watched closely both the body language and team spirit that is continually evolving throughout our team. It was hugely encouraging to see. No sense that there are egos or primadonas just everyone pulling in he one direction. Regardless of the deficits we faced and mistakes that happened on both ends during the game there was this calm and upbeat air at each timeout and a steely determination we'd make the runs required as the game entered the clutch. And so it panned out again. There will clearly be plenty road bumps ahead but it's just fantastic to see a freshness, a belief, players having fun, camaraderie and of course the Garden lit up for the 2nd time in 3 nights. There is no better place to watch basketball on a night like that and the fans crave a team to get behind and root for. Success will come if we continue to do the things we are.

When I got home I watched the Knicks post game and then noticed the 2nd half of the OKC game was on so decided to see how that played out. Putting my Knicks love aside the contrast literally could not have been starker. They looked a mess against a 1-8 Kings team. Terrible body language, no continuity, no game plan, no movement, constant ISO ball, constant mid range jumpers, a flagrant then a technical for frustrated and unhappy looking players. Listen, they still have good players and I'm sure will work out some kinks but that roster with that balance and a player, in Melo, that kills team chemistry can't and won't win anything. His legs are shot, he has no lift, he can't drive to the basket and finish. Westbrook gives off the aura of a wtf have we got ourselves into and currently is a shadow of the player he was last season.

In summary the attitude and enthusiasm of the Knicks right now is in stark contrast to OKC.

awesome stuff, always like hearing from fans who are at the games.

It's incredible to me to see how much Melo has fallen off and is declining, you could see it last year: against some not so good defenders, all isolated and one-on-one, Melo couldn't get past them, he has zero burst of speed. Dude can barely dunk any more. I wonder if that patella injury set him back that much or if just age and mileage has taken over.

stanleybostitch wrote:the Thunder lacks anything remotely close to a plan on offense. The spacing is non-existent, the system hasn’t matched the personnel, and no one looks comfortable executing a set.

Russell Westbrook recently signed a massive 10 year deal with Nike.

Think it was total coincidence that he won MVP? (Not saying he's not a great player, he really is a great player, just in very specific ways)

Watching OKC, last season, it was clear, the entire focus was on stat padding RW at all costs. Even to the detriment to free flowing team basketball. Even to the detriment of fundamentals.

Look at Presti's situation. He risks very much of having George, Melo and WB walk on him, leaving him with Steven Adams as his best player. WB leaves, he's gonna get fired. Which shows the high risk move for trading for George and Melo ( granted he did not give up a ton, but he lost massive depth)

The roster is top heavy. Look at the depth. Roberson can't score. Patrick Patterson, Jerami Grant and Ray Felton are the best reserves.

I think they'll do better as the season rolls a long, but they need guys on vet minimum contracts who can help them. A Bogut type. Guys who get bought out and are looking for a contender.

TripleThreat wrote:

stanleybostitch wrote:the Thunder lacks anything remotely close to a plan on offense. The spacing is non-existent, the system hasn’t matched the personnel, and no one looks comfortable executing a set.

Russell Westbrook recently signed a massive 10 year deal with Nike.

Think it was total coincidence that he won MVP? (Not saying he's not a great player, he really is a great player, just in very specific ways)

Watching OKC, last season, it was clear, the entire focus was on stat padding RW at all costs. Even to the detriment to free flowing team basketball. Even to the detriment of fundamentals.

Look at Presti's situation. He risks very much of having George, Melo and WB walk on him, leaving him with Steven Adams as his best player. WB leaves, he's gonna get fired. Which shows the high risk move for trading for George and Melo ( granted he did not give up a ton, but he lost massive depth)

The roster is top heavy. Look at the depth. Roberson can't score. Patrick Patterson, Jerami Grant and Ray Felton are the best reserves.

I think they'll do better as the season rolls a long, but they need guys on vet minimum contracts who can help them. A Bogut type. Guys who get bought out and are looking for a contender.

Russ signed an extension already. If George and Melo leave they fall back on Russ and Adams and may have cap space for one FA. Have to depend on the development of Ferg.

Presti getting fired would be a horrible decision. The risk were well worth it given what they gave up. And they still would have the flexibility to recover.

stanleybostitch wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

stanleybostitch wrote:the Thunder lacks anything remotely close to a plan on offense. The spacing is non-existent, the system hasn’t matched the personnel, and no one looks comfortable executing a set.

Russell Westbrook recently signed a massive 10 year deal with Nike.

Think it was total coincidence that he won MVP? (Not saying he's not a great player, he really is a great player, just in very specific ways)

Watching OKC, last season, it was clear, the entire focus was on stat padding RW at all costs. Even to the detriment to free flowing team basketball. Even to the detriment of fundamentals.

Look at Presti's situation. He risks very much of having George, Melo and WB walk on him, leaving him with Steven Adams as his best player. WB leaves, he's gonna get fired. Which shows the high risk move for trading for George and Melo ( granted he did not give up a ton, but he lost massive depth)

The roster is top heavy. Look at the depth. Roberson can't score. Patrick Patterson, Jerami Grant and Ray Felton are the best reserves.

I think they'll do better as the season rolls a long, but they need guys on vet minimum contracts who can help them. A Bogut type. Guys who get bought out and are looking for a contender.

Russ signed an extension already. If George and Melo leave they fall back on Russ and Adams and may have cap space for one FA. Have to depend on the development of Ferg.

Presti getting fired would be a horrible decision. The risk were well worth it given what they gave up. And they still would have the flexibility to recover.

For all the good press Presti gets, I'm surprised he starphucked so hard. Have to think the team would be better with a Westbrook-PG-Kanter core with Dougie coming off the bench, rather than the current lineup they have.

I don't get it either. They had a good team last year. Westbrook's selfishness had eclipsed Oladipo's game. He is showing to be one of the better two guards in the league. Sabonis is a talented young big. Kanter is a bull and Doug a capable bench scorer. They starfukked when they didn't need to. This whole 3 star players bull**** is gonna catch up to Presti. They are pathetic and disjointed on offense and their defense has fallen apart because they have Melo standing around and watching. With Westbrook and Adams they should have looked for three point shooters and defensive wings. They got two iso players instead, that can't shoot efficiently, won't pass and one doesn't play a lick of defense.

OKC has all stars and no system and definitely no buy in. All the chatter is about when they can opt out and leave.

Gudris wrote:I said this before, Melo is great buddy, but terrible team leader, he is like energy vampire, he sucks out energy from teammates and nobody are playing good basketball

So you are saying he is a succubus?