If a EURO team had interest in Kuz -- could they offer him a new contract or take his current contract off our hands and Kuz just goes back to Europe?

LivingLegend wrote:? for anybody who might know.

If a EURO team had interest in Kuz -- could they offer him a new contract or take his current contract off our hands and Kuz just goes back to Europe?

in europe they can only dream about that money they have in NBA :)

BigDaddyG wrote:Do you think a KOQ/Kuz package could land us Noel. He'd be a better fit for the front court defensively. Of course, we'd have to pay him.
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/6/16612006/mavericks-screwing-nerlens-noel-and-their-future

wow, they are definitely jerking (noel) around. I would feel bad trading KOQ or kuz to that mess.

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:Do you think a KOQ/Kuz package could land us Noel. He'd be a better fit for the front court defensively. Of course, we'd have to pay him.
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/6/16612006/mavericks-screwing-nerlens-noel-and-their-future

wow, they are definitely jerking (noel) around. I would feel bad trading KOQ or kuz to that mess.

BigDaddyG wrote:Do you think a KOQ/Kuz package could land us Noel. He'd be a better fit for the front court defensively. Of course, we'd have to pay him.
https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/6/16612006/mavericks-screwing-nerlens-noel-and-their-future

KOQ is playing better than Noel at this point. KOQ is contributes to three moral of the team too. Noel isn't bringing those type of intangibles to the game.

You are on the right track though. I would love to do at least a 2 for 1 or a 3 for 1 to try and get a good player we can use.... kuz, sessions sand Willy are the ones I want to move

SupremeCommander wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Surprised that we didnt even see Kuz in the preseason. Sounds like they made a commitment to move him
before the season started. At least he's healthy as far as we know. Any draft pick woukd be great.

He was recovering from injury?

Not that I know of. Was saying that I dont know of any injury that would keep him on the bench. Pretty sure we would have heard something by now,

He was nursing an ankle, think he hurt it early in training camp, that's why he missed all but 1 preseason game.

LOL, thats news to me. Sounds like he might get cut if they cant move him.

I would think we can get at least another guard for him

OMG why do you post here

Dude...aren't you the owner of this site?

martin has a track record of letting someone get their **** together before they get banned... hopefully 1248 gets his **** together because frankly his posts are some of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in his rambling, incoherent posts was he even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on the messageboard is now dumber for having read it.

TripleThreat wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Think we should cut Beasley before we cut Kuzminskas.

Kuz is making 3.1 million this year and 3.8 million next year.

Depending on the terms of a possible buyout, the Knicks will eat the cap charge ( assuming he's not stretched) implied and take some cash savings depending the terms of the buyout.

While it seems nonsensical on the surface, NBA team will try to save a few million on a player they aren't going to use anyway. Cavs dumped Mike Miller to save on their luxury tax bill. They traded two 2nd rounders to dump Richard Jefferson for the same reason.

Baseline issue - Cutting Beasley does not offer any potential cash savings. Waiving Kuz in a buyout might. It depends on if the Knicks see the 2018 3.8 million cap charge as a pure sunk cost or not.

The league administration is not a fan of watching international guys get trapped onto rosters by virtue of their contracts. It's not good for international competition over the long haul, thus impacts Team USA basketball indirectly, thus impacts the NBA's place in the Olympics in general. Depending on the promises made to Kuz and his agent, this could be a long term sensitive issue in terms of courting international players for the future. It's better to buy him out and let him go if he has no use here.

So this is the first time I've heard of the extra $3.8M year, some salary sites have him on an ending contract this year for $3.1m

martin wrote:

TripleThreat wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Think we should cut Beasley before we cut Kuzminskas.

Kuz is making 3.1 million this year and 3.8 million next year.

Depending on the terms of a possible buyout, the Knicks will eat the cap charge ( assuming he's not stretched) implied and take some cash savings depending the terms of the buyout.

While it seems nonsensical on the surface, NBA team will try to save a few million on a player they aren't going to use anyway. Cavs dumped Mike Miller to save on their luxury tax bill. They traded two 2nd rounders to dump Richard Jefferson for the same reason.

Baseline issue - Cutting Beasley does not offer any potential cash savings. Waiving Kuz in a buyout might. It depends on if the Knicks see the 2018 3.8 million cap charge as a pure sunk cost or not.

The league administration is not a fan of watching international guys get trapped onto rosters by virtue of their contracts. It's not good for international competition over the long haul, thus impacts Team USA basketball indirectly, thus impacts the NBA's place in the Olympics in general. Depending on the promises made to Kuz and his agent, this could be a long term sensitive issue in terms of courting international players for the future. It's better to buy him out and let him go if he has no use here.

So this is the first time I've heard of the extra $3.8M year, some salary sites have him on an ending contract this year for $3.1m

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/new_york_knicks

Unless Hoops Hype is wrong. They might be.

If HoopsHype is correct, Kuz is not really going to be easy to trade. He's not a rental, he's an actual commitment. He is right now technically under the "cash threshold" that all teams get annually, but that would pretty much eliminate that teams flexibility in other trades and buying draft picks.

TripleThreat wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:Think we should cut Beasley before we cut Kuzminskas.

Kuz is making 3.1 million this year and 3.8 million next year.

Depending on the terms of a possible buyout, the Knicks will eat the cap charge ( assuming he's not stretched) implied and take some cash savings depending the terms of the buyout.

While it seems nonsensical on the surface, NBA team will try to save a few million on a player they aren't going to use anyway. Cavs dumped Mike Miller to save on their luxury tax bill. They traded two 2nd rounders to dump Richard Jefferson for the same reason.

Baseline issue - Cutting Beasley does not offer any potential cash savings. Waiving Kuz in a buyout might. It depends on if the Knicks see the 2018 3.8 million cap charge as a pure sunk cost or not.

The league administration is not a fan of watching international guys get trapped onto rosters by virtue of their contracts. It's not good for international competition over the long haul, thus impacts Team USA basketball indirectly, thus impacts the NBA's place in the Olympics in general. Depending on the promises made to Kuz and his agent, this could be a long term sensitive issue in terms of courting international players for the future. It's better to buy him out and let him go if he has no use here.

He signed a two-year deal, year three is his qualifying offer, it is not guaranteed.