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10/27/2017  10:14 PM
knicks1248 wrote:kantar, and their on 2nd rnd

nikola and kriss dun

only problem is nikola cant be traded until January
is not ready to let bygones be bygones, telling the Chicago Bulls that he would welcome a trade if the team decides to keep Bobby Portis, according to multiple reports.

Mirotic suffered a concussion and facial fractures when he was punched by Portis during a practice altercation Oct. 17. Portis was suspended eight games.

Nikola Mirotic is sidelined with a concussion and facial fractures after a fight with teammate Bobby Portis. Patrick Gorski-USA TODAY Sports

According to the reports, Mirotic's team has told the Bulls that they would waive his no-trade clause and leave Chicago rather than stay with Portis. The 26-year-old Mirotic signed a two-year, $27 million contract before the season.

After the fight, the Bulls initially said that they were waiting for Mirotic's concussion symptoms to subside before doctors could ascertain whether he needed surgery for his other injuries. Coach Fred Hoiberg said that Mirotic was not cleared from the concussion protocol when he visited a specialist Wednesday. Vice president of basketball operations John Paxson told reporters at practice Friday that Mirotic was cleared for light physical activity like riding a bike.

Paxson said that the team is sympathetic to Mirotic's plight but would have to do what's best for the organization. He added that they would take Mirotic's lead when it comes to communicating with teammates.

Portis apologized publicly Oct. 21 and said he had reached out to Mirotic but had not heard back.

"I'm wrong for what I did," Portis said. "I want to publicly apologize to Niko. I feel like I let my fans, the Bulls organization and, most importantly, my teammates down. This is not who Bobby Portis is."

In three seasons, Mirotic has averaged 10.8 points and 5.3 rebounds per game as a stretch power forward.

Portis, 22, was a first-round draft pick in 2015 who has averaged 6.9 points and 5.0 rebounds per game over two seasons

maybe we get grant back and really make phils day.

nikola has a team option on the 2nd yr, he's young, good chemistry with noah, perfect back up for kp since they have similar games

I'd rather trade for Phoenix Bledsoe...
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10/27/2017  10:54 PM
I want NOTHING to do with Mirotic. Can't play D...makes no sense given our present roster. He has not progressed as I thought he would.

Would take Portis over him, but it increases our big man log jam...even if you get rid of Kanter.

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10/28/2017  2:06 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:I want NOTHING to do with Mirotic. Can't play D...makes no sense given our present roster. He has not progressed as I thought he would.

Would take Portis over him, but it increases our big man log jam...even if you get rid of Kanter.

What? Mirotic is a good defender and the stats show it:

Defensively, Mirotic has a reputation as an incapable defender, but that could not be further from the truth. According to Synergy, Mirotic ranks in the 95th percentile in half court defense, allowing only 0.769 points per possession. This matches my eye test. Mirotic has great awareness and knows how to position himself on defense to support the backside, help on drives and contest kick-outs. He is also a phenomenal pick-and-roll container, ranking in the 85th percentile. While he is made to look silly against the speediest point guards, he does the subtle things right.
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10/28/2017  4:13 PM
TPercy wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:I want NOTHING to do with Mirotic. Can't play D...makes no sense given our present roster. He has not progressed as I thought he would.

Would take Portis over him, but it increases our big man log jam...even if you get rid of Kanter.

What? Mirotic is a good defender and the stats show it:

Defensively, Mirotic has a reputation as an incapable defender, but that could not be further from the truth. According to Synergy, Mirotic ranks in the 95th percentile in half court defense, allowing only 0.769 points per possession. This matches my eye test. Mirotic has great awareness and knows how to position himself on defense to support the backside, help on drives and contest kick-outs. He is also a phenomenal pick-and-roll container, ranking in the 85th percentile. While he is made to look silly against the speediest point guards, he does the subtle things right.

Going by what I see when he has played the Knicks...I've never seen that he was a special defender. Slow...not a shot blocker.

This analyst makes him sound like D. Green, for goodness sake.

Of course I'm older...maybe my eyes are going.

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10/28/2017  5:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 10/28/2017  5:26 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:How about Kanter to Milwaukee for Greg Monroe and their lottery protected 2018 pick.

There is no logic in that deal for the Bucks. Trading for Kanter means they plan on keeping and paying for him long term. Which means they would have to trade Parker as Kanter and Parker will cost close to 40mil to keep both. On top of their current salary cap. If they let Kanter walk then they gave away a draft pick for nothing.

Bucks want to shed salaries of players like Henson and Tetovic as well as let Monroe walk. Probably wouldnt mind moving on from Delly as well. This way they can keep their core of Freak, Middleton, Parker, Brogdon. Maybe Maker as well.

We could probably pull off a Baker for Delly and DJ Wilson and a 2nd Rd pick. If you want to think bigger. We can move Baker and KOQ for Delly and Tetovic for DJ Wilson, Sterling Brown and a 2nd. We add in Dougie which makes sense for both teams and maybe get a future first.

Thinking about its it's real good trade for both teams. Wilson and Brown are both the type of forwards we should look to invest in. To grow with this core.

Hey man--have you watched them? They could really use kanter!! I dont give a sht about Monroe--I just want their pick. they should make the playoffs--with Kanter they would.

I think it will be more like the Bulls will want picks for him. Not look to give away picks with him. I am not a fan of his. Just another soft big that "Strectches the Floor". Seems like those are becoming a dime a dozen.
Call me crazy, but I like an old school big that can rebound and post up like Kanter. Besides, if a guy punches you in the face, there has to be something pretty bad about you.

Would only give them scraps for him. NOAH!!! Yeah right. Noah is our newly adopted cross to bear.

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10/29/2017  5:54 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
TPercy wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:I want NOTHING to do with Mirotic. Can't play D...makes no sense given our present roster. He has not progressed as I thought he would.

Would take Portis over him, but it increases our big man log jam...even if you get rid of Kanter.

What? Mirotic is a good defender and the stats show it:

Defensively, Mirotic has a reputation as an incapable defender, but that could not be further from the truth. According to Synergy, Mirotic ranks in the 95th percentile in half court defense, allowing only 0.769 points per possession. This matches my eye test. Mirotic has great awareness and knows how to position himself on defense to support the backside, help on drives and contest kick-outs. He is also a phenomenal pick-and-roll container, ranking in the 85th percentile. While he is made to look silly against the speediest point guards, he does the subtle things right.

Going by what I see when he has played the Knicks...I've never seen that he was a special defender. Slow...not a shot blocker.

This analyst makes him sound like D. Green, for goodness sake.

Of course I'm older...maybe my eyes are going.


I'm not saying that and Mirotic hasn't done well defensively against us but he is one of those weird outliers. He defends PnR really well.
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10/30/2017  10:07 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:How about Kanter to Milwaukee for Greg Monroe and their lottery protected 2018 pick.

There is no logic in that deal for the Bucks. Trading for Kanter means they plan on keeping and paying for him long term. Which means they would have to trade Parker as Kanter and Parker will cost close to 40mil to keep both. On top of their current salary cap. If they let Kanter walk then they gave away a draft pick for nothing.

Bucks want to shed salaries of players like Henson and Tetovic as well as let Monroe walk. Probably wouldnt mind moving on from Delly as well. This way they can keep their core of Freak, Middleton, Parker, Brogdon. Maybe Maker as well.

We could probably pull off a Baker for Delly and DJ Wilson and a 2nd Rd pick. If you want to think bigger. We can move Baker and KOQ for Delly and Tetovic for DJ Wilson, Sterling Brown and a 2nd. We add in Dougie which makes sense for both teams and maybe get a future first.

Thinking about its it's real good trade for both teams. Wilson and Brown are both the type of forwards we should look to invest in. To grow with this core.

Newyork-- you don't see what I'm saying about kanter now? He's different from Monroe but that doesn't matter -- I'm also knick fan sick of losing. We have something here with kanter and kp -- no reason to change it now.

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10/30/2017  10:20 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:How about Kanter to Milwaukee for Greg Monroe and their lottery protected 2018 pick.

There is no logic in that deal for the Bucks. Trading for Kanter means they plan on keeping and paying for him long term. Which means they would have to trade Parker as Kanter and Parker will cost close to 40mil to keep both. On top of their current salary cap. If they let Kanter walk then they gave away a draft pick for nothing.

Bucks want to shed salaries of players like Henson and Tetovic as well as let Monroe walk. Probably wouldnt mind moving on from Delly as well. This way they can keep their core of Freak, Middleton, Parker, Brogdon. Maybe Maker as well.

We could probably pull off a Baker for Delly and DJ Wilson and a 2nd Rd pick. If you want to think bigger. We can move Baker and KOQ for Delly and Tetovic for DJ Wilson, Sterling Brown and a 2nd. We add in Dougie which makes sense for both teams and maybe get a future first.

Thinking about its it's real good trade for both teams. Wilson and Brown are both the type of forwards we should look to invest in. To grow with this core.

Newyork-- you don't see what I'm saying about kanter now? He's different from Monroe but that doesn't matter -- I'm also knick fan sick of losing. We have something here with kanter and kp -- no reason to change it now.

AGREED..

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nikola mirotic asked to be traded

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