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Knickoftime
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10/24/2017 1:39 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. I'd be careful trying to translate Euro stats to NBA stats. It's a different game. |
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Nalod
Posts: 68677 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
10/24/2017 1:48 PM LAST EDITED: 10/24/2017 1:50 PM
Knickoftime wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. This. Good point. |
BigDaddyG
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10/24/2017 2:00 PM LAST EDITED: 10/24/2017 2:01 PM
Knickoftime wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. Agreed. But there's nothing else to go on. It's about as effective as comparing a different, older player who played in a completely different farm system in the NCAA and landed on a far more structured NBA pro team. I wanted to see Frank's rebounding % numbers on Strasbourg, but couldn't find them. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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reub
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10/24/2017 2:01 PM
Briggs, the vultures seem to be all over you here even though you add more to this site than anyone else.
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/24/2017 2:03 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. Those are two different kind of players. Rubio wasnt the defensive stopper that Frank is supposed to be (busy dropping dimes) so it surprises me that he isnt cleaning up more around the rim. Altering shots with his wingspan and, grabbing boards (Did alter a shot nicely from the wing in his NBA debut) Im sure there are other examples that you could have used. I get the point that its not the final word, and I agree. Like I said upthread, Frank seems to need the most work in the paint. Not just rebounding, but driving. Looks to me like a matter of Frank finding a comfort zone. |
Nalod
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10/24/2017 2:09 PM
GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. We all so good at telling frank what he needs to do, as if he or coaches don't? |
GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/24/2017 2:13 PM
Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. Back to the old, "why are we talking about basketball on a basketball forum?" Again Nalod? |
BigDaddyG
Posts: 37541 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
10/24/2017 2:13 PM
GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. Rubio was praised for his defensive potential coming. He was always considered a solid rebounder for his position and a, potentially good defender. I think Rubio is a decent bench mark for Frank in terms of defensive effectiveness. Keep in mind, Rubio was two years older than Frank when he came into the league. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/24/2017 2:23 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. Rubio saw the court a lot better than Frank has to this point in his career. Better than most players coming into the league. His ability to anticipate. It helped him on defense as well, even though he took too many chances at times. As I wrote, its not just rebounding where Frank needs to be more comfortable in the paint. Has to be able to consistently get to the rim. I dont believe thats a coincidence. Looks like a matter of confidence in that part of his game. That takes time. |
Knickoftime
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10/24/2017 2:31 PM
Knixkik wrote:BRIGGS wrote: Hell, I'm still waiting to see what he does in year one. We still have 98.3% of that left. |
Nalod
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10/24/2017 3:38 PM
GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. The kid played 9 minutes. Yes it takes time. |
Nalod
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10/24/2017 3:42 PM
BRIGGS wrote:reub wrote:Briggs, the vultures seem to be all over you here even though you add more to this site than anyone else. Lazy. Can't say "my bad"? Deflect "everyone a knick fan". |
GustavBahler
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10/24/2017 3:51 PM
Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. Wasn't me who made the analogy, you're on a roll. |
BigDaddyG
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10/24/2017 4:24 PM LAST EDITED: 10/24/2017 4:28 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. Wasn't me who said they were the same player. I believe the original point was Rubio, who is considered an above average rebounding point guard, averaged about 4 rebounds per 36 minutes a game as a rookie, the same per minute as Frank did I last year. The thread went other places about comparisons to their passing etc. I might also add that Rubio was considered a plus defender coming into the league, same as Frank. Never mentioned anything about offense. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
10/24/2017 4:54 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Nalod wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:GustavBahler wrote:martin wrote:BRIGGS wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Frank averaged 2 rebounds a game in France which concerns me a bit, because he should have an advantage over some players with his wingspan. Frank has to rebound more, and drive more, if he wants to be a starter. C'mon Man, You made them sound like they were conjoined twins! |
knicks1248
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10/24/2017 4:55 PM
EnySpree wrote:Frank can't penitrate.... so far his game is all step back jumpers. He only seems drives if he's given a lane. He doesn't habe take moves going towards the basket. He's got to develop that. He plays alot like Calderon... The old Calderon. Young Calderon could get into the paint. Still got alot of basketball to play but he's got alot to work on as well. your right I really don't see this kid as an all star, like ever, but then again what do we know. We only get to see him in a empty gym or playing pick up games. The coaching staff seems to be really high on him, or maybe they just don't want to look stupid trading him before he plays an actually game. ES
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