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GustavBahler
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12/1/2017 1:27 PM
Thought this was a good article (with clips) on Frank in the NBA vs Frank in Europe. On the front page.
https://theknickswall.com/frank-ntilikinas-early-play-compared-international-play/ |
Juliano
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12/2/2017 6:14 AM
Mitchell : just wow. 41 points 2 months into his rookie season, very impressive.
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GustavBahler
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12/2/2017 9:34 AM
Its very important for Frank to come back next season more aggressive. If Frank is essentially the same player next season, too passive. Its more than likely this is the player Frank will always be in this league.
I really hope Frank can elevate his game. Now that teams know he wont drive, its going to get even tougher, until he does. Don't believe we can pass on drafting another PG, in the first or second round. Believe it would be foolish to put all our eggs in one basket, so to speak. You can be the biggest Frank fan, and should still be able to see, that Ntilikina might not have the temperament to have an impact on offense, like a DSJ or Mitchell. Not just scoring. |
newyorknewyork
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12/2/2017 10:15 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Its very important for Frank to come back next season more aggressive. If Frank is essentially the same player next season, too passive. Its more than likely this is the player Frank will always be in this league. His aggressiveness would come from confidence. His confidence would come from feeling he can physically match up imo. There will be a time when Frank is developed physically. That is the make or break moment for him imo. I agree about not putting eggs in one basket though, that is just good business practice in general. Travon Duval is the player to keep an eye on. But of course there could be that Donovan Mitchell that raises his stock as like a Sophomore or something. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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GustavBahler
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12/2/2017 10:38 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Its very important for Frank to come back next season more aggressive. If Frank is essentially the same player next season, too passive. Its more than likely this is the player Frank will always be in this league. Thats what we're hoping, that as Frank puts on some weight, he will be less hesitant to go to the rim. What we should find out in the next couple of seasons, is if Frank has the ability to be an Alpha PG when the time calls for it. Thats part of being a starting PG in this league. That question has yet to be settled. Still would like to see Frank play in the Drew League or Rucker. He really needs a place to try out new things, bounce ideas off of other NBA players, some elite. It will be interesting to see what Perry does with his first Knick draft. Mentioned drafting another PG, because Frank is a lottery pick. Some may feel the starting PG job is already his. Clearly not you. I hope Frank takes stock of his game this summer, and puts in the work to come back a more complete player. |
Juliano
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12/2/2017 10:53 AM
ekstarks94 wrote:Juliano wrote:Mitchell : just wow. 41 points 2 months into his rookie season, very impressive. I know it doesn't guarantee he will be a hit for years to come, but it's still impressive nonetheless. If Frank had this kind of game it would send this forum into raptures. |
newyorknewyork
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12/2/2017 11:02 AM LAST EDITED: 12/2/2017 11:03 AM
GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Its very important for Frank to come back next season more aggressive. If Frank is essentially the same player next season, too passive. Its more than likely this is the player Frank will always be in this league. I strongly believe that him facing grown men dating back to his time in France has molded his hesitation especially since his game isn't based off of pure athletic ability. When he is no longer behind that curb of other players in terms of strength which has been the case. I expect to see a more confident and aggressive player. It may not translate into him scoring a ton but attacking and creating. When looking at Frank the unique hope is for him to be a beast defensive player who is efficient offensively. This is why he gets the Kwahi comparisons. The level he is able to bring that to is going to be the difference between him being a starter in this league or not. But that's more so his game. The Pacer game 4th quarter is the good flash of possibilities. Shut down penetration. Knocked down shots, kept the ball moving and found teammates. I agree that the threat of penetration will open that up for him more and make him the complete guard we want to see. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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NardDogNation
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12/2/2017 11:29 AM LAST EDITED: 12/2/2017 1:39 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:NardDogNation wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Donovan Mitchell may turn out to be the hindsight pick. Dallas had the 9th pick. Portland got the 10th pick from the Kings by trading the 15th and 20th picks. The only way we could've gotten Mitchell though would've only been if we could have leapfrogged the Jazz at 13th. I like Mitchell but even in retrospect, that $36 million per, longterm might still have given me pause. And even at his best case scenario, I don't think he'll be better than the 3rd best player on a contender, which makes me especially concerned about cost. But as a rebuilding team, I trend towards feeling like it should've been something we pursued since there should be no reason to sign anyone to big money, anyway. Here's a question though, if we did it, would you have taken Mitchell or Malik Monk at 10? Why? |
KnickDanger
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12/2/2017 11:33 AM
Juliano wrote:ekstarks94 wrote:Juliano wrote:Mitchell : just wow. 41 points 2 months into his rookie season, very impressive. I wonder how New York fans would have reacted if we picked Mitchell at #8? |
HofstraBBall
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12/2/2017 11:34 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:fishmike wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Noah and Rose were mistakes no? What do you they have to do with anything?nixluva wrote:Knickoftime wrote:I'm not jumping on the 'DSJr's damaged goods' bandwagon because he's missed a few games any more than I'm getting on the 'Ntilikina is too weak to stay on the floor' bandwagon a week into the season. Mitchell was NBA ready. So far Frank reminds me of Emmanuel Mudiay. Minus the explosiveness. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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GustavBahler
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12/2/2017 11:35 AM LAST EDITED: 12/2/2017 11:37 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:GustavBahler wrote:Its very important for Frank to come back next season more aggressive. If Frank is essentially the same player next season, too passive. Its more than likely this is the player Frank will always be in this league. There is a skills gap when it comes to Frank's handle vs. other lottery picks. Don't believe he has the tools yet to create separation. Frank showed a nice stutter step in Europe. Im guessing better NBA defenders made him more hesitant to use it. Hope he goes back to it, as he gets in better shape. It can help him get to the rim, find a open spot on the floor to shoot. My hope when Frank was drafted that he would mold his game into something like Rondo's. Another cerebral player, long wingspan. Neither with lightning speed. I would sign Rondo to the minimum (now that the team isnt a mess) just to mentor him. Frank is a confident young man, but you're right, he might have taken a hard lick or two early on in France which made skiddish about going to the rim since then. Would make sense. Better conditioning, a better handle, and Frank could be an impact player in this league. Hope so. |