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11/5/2017  10:18 PM
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Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too


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11/5/2017  10:21 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/5/2017  10:37 PM
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codeunknown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too

The obsession with dribble drive is baffling. Frank is better on defense than anyone in the draft is on offense. He’s warping that end of the floor. We don’t always get to be right as Knick fans, but I called the Kawhi comparisons, and Frankie is doing us proud early.

Dont believe the Kawhi comparisons are apt until Frank can get to the rim more consistently. When Kawhi sees the lane, he takes it.

Yeah, if you're comparing a 19 year old rookie to a 25 year old all-star, former finals MVP. How about Kawhi as a rookie? Was rookie Kawhi Leonard the 2016 Kawhi Leonard right out the gate?
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11/5/2017  10:24 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:Frank had a few missed opportunities to get to the rim tonite, but he showed a legit crossover to get
in the paint. Which was on my wish list.

I get the feeling his teammates are encouraging him to be more aggresive. Frank doesn't have that comfort level going to the rim just yet. But he's slowly gettin there.

We just have to be patient. In this microwave society fans want Frank to be prime-Frank 9 games into his career. Give him time to develop and more importantly develop the RIGHT WAY. Let Dennis Smith put up his empty stats and highlight dunks and develop into a shot chucking point guard.

Most PGs coming into the league are less hesitant to drive than Frank has been to this point, regardless of age. Pointing this out seems to be a major sore spot for some. No one is expecting instant results.

Pointing out the holes in Frank's game, isnt the same as wanting those holes instantly patched.

As for Smith Jr, he has shown elite athleticism, and shown he is capable of running the point. Both rooks are doing good things early on for their squad.

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11/5/2017  10:32 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too

The obsession with dribble drive is baffling. Frank is better on defense than anyone in the draft is on offense. He’s warping that end of the floor. We don’t always get to be right as Knick fans, but I called the Kawhi comparisons, and Frankie is doing us proud early.

Dont believe the Kawhi comparisons are apt until Frank can get to the rim more consistently. When Kawhi sees the lane, he takes it.

Yeah, if you're comparing a 19 year old rookie to a 25 all-star, former finals MVP. How about Kawhi as a rookie? Was rookie Kawhi Leonard the 2016 Kawhi Leonard right out the gate?

The ability for a point guard to get to the rim, score, dish, cant be underestimated IMO. Not sure why you're asking me about the appropriateness of comparing Frank as a Rookie to a a finals MVP. Im saying its too early.

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11/5/2017  10:33 PM
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codeunknown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too

The obsession with dribble drive is baffling. Frank is better on defense than anyone in the draft is on offense. He’s warping that end of the floor. We don’t always get to be right as Knick fans, but I called the Kawhi comparisons, and Frankie is doing us proud early.

Dont believe the Kawhi comparisons are apt until Frank can get to the rim more consistently. When Kawhi sees the lane, he takes it.

The point is that taking it to the rim is relatively unimportant. The uniqueness of the comparison is the similarity in defensive stance and strategy between the 2, and that the impact on that end of the floor may rival some of the best offensive players.

Regarding offernse, Kawhi is not great at driving to the rim. He gets the vast majority of his points from motion and mid-long range shooting. 17% comes at the rim, transition notwithstanding. Both players have an advantage in mobility relative to length, rather than first-step burst or overly creative dribbling. To me, the comparison, although imperfect because of differences in positional duties, is very strong in many areas.

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11/5/2017  10:33 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too

The obsession with dribble drive is baffling. Frank is better on defense than anyone in the draft is on offense. He’s warping that end of the floor. We don’t always get to be right as Knick fans, but I called the Kawhi comparisons, and Frankie is doing us proud early.

Dont believe the Kawhi comparisons are apt until Frank can get to the rim more consistently. When Kawhi sees the lane, he takes it.

Yeah, if you're comparing a 19 year old rookie to a 25 all-star, former finals MVP. How about Kawhi as a rookie? Was rookie Kawhi Leonard the 2016 Kawhi Leonard right out the gate?
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11/5/2017  10:36 PM
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Welpee wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Frank had a few missed opportunities to get to the rim tonite, but he showed a legit crossover to get
in the paint. Which was on my wish list.

I get the feeling his teammates are encouraging him to be more aggresive. Frank doesn't have that comfort level going to the rim just yet. But he's slowly gettin there.

We just have to be patient. In this microwave society fans want Frank to be prime-Frank 9 games into his career. Give him time to develop and more importantly develop the RIGHT WAY. Let Dennis Smith put up his empty stats and highlight dunks and develop into a shot chucking point guard.

Most PGs coming into the league are less hesitant to drive than Frank has been to this point, regardless of age. Pointing this out seems to be a major sore spot for some. No one is expecting instant results.

Pointing out the holes in Frank's game, isnt the same as wanting those holes instantly patched.

As for Smith Jr, he has shown elite athleticism, and shown he is capable of running the point. Both rooks are doing good things early on for their squad.

Not a sore spot, just not something to worry about at this stage of his career. Some have been pointing this out since the draft and reference the first couple of games of his career as proof he'll never be able to do it. Give it time.

And there are a ton of "elite athletes" who didn't exactly tear the league up. Obviously its a great attribute to have, but it doesn't guarantee being an "elite player."

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11/5/2017  10:41 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Most PGs coming into the league are less hesitant to drive than Frank has been to this point, regardless of age. Pointing this out seems to be a major sore spot for some. No one is expecting instant results.

Pointing out the holes in Frank's game, isnt the same as wanting those holes instantly patched.

As for Smith Jr, he has shown elite athleticism, and shown he is might be capable of running the point. Both rooks are doing good things early on for their squad.


Smith has been up and down and so has Lonzo. Fultz? Forget about it...Frank is holding up well with every point guard drafted in the lottery, except maybe Fox. It's OK to point out things Frank needs to work on. He also made some strides taking it off the dribble. He's had some pretty good takes. I think it's more nerves than anything. You could tell he was geeked up by those free throws.
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11/5/2017  10:42 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too

The obsession with dribble drive is baffling. Frank is better on defense than anyone in the draft is on offense. He’s warping that end of the floor. We don’t always get to be right as Knick fans, but I called the Kawhi comparisons, and Frankie is doing us proud early.

Dont believe the Kawhi comparisons are apt until Frank can get to the rim more consistently. When Kawhi sees the lane, he takes it.

The point is that taking it to the rim is relatively unimportant. The uniqueness of the comparison is the similarity in defensive stance and strategy between the 2, and that the impact on that end of the floor may rival some of the best offensive players.

Regarding offernse, Kawhi is not great at driving to the rim. He gets the vast majority of his points from motion and mid-long range shooting. 17% comes at the rim, transition notwithstanding. Both players have an advantage in mobility relative to length, rather than first-step burst or overly creative dribbling. To me, the comparison, although imperfect because of differences in positional duties, is very strong in many areas.

Strongly disagree about the importance of getting to the rim. Every time Frank took it to the rim, they worried more about Frank getting past them the next time, which makes it easier to find teammates. Because they have to respect his ability to get to the rim.

Its also important to get to the rim to get the other team in foul trouble. Help put their stars on the bench. Harder to do it if you arent going at them.

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11/5/2017  10:44 PM
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GustavBahler wrote:Most PGs coming into the league are less hesitant to drive than Frank has been to this point, regardless of age. Pointing this out seems to be a major sore spot for some. No one is expecting instant results.

Pointing out the holes in Frank's game, isnt the same as wanting those holes instantly patched.

As for Smith Jr, he has shown elite athleticism, and shown he is might be capable of running the point. Both rooks are doing good things early on for their squad.


Smith has been up and down and so has Lonzo. Fultz? Forget about it...Frank is holding up well with every point guard drafted in the lottery, except maybe Fox. It's OK to point out things Frank needs to work on. He also made some strides taking it off the dribble. He's had some pretty good takes. I think it's more nerves than anything. You could tell he was geeked up by those free throws.
agreed. Fox has been real good. Smith had that big first game but then has been up and down plus has major injury concerns. Same with lonzo and fultz. Frank seems to be getting better every game. His numbers should go up with more minutes
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11/5/2017  10:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/5/2017  10:53 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too

The obsession with dribble drive is baffling. Frank is better on defense than anyone in the draft is on offense. He’s warping that end of the floor. We don’t always get to be right as Knick fans, but I called the Kawhi comparisons, and Frankie is doing us proud early.

Dont believe the Kawhi comparisons are apt until Frank can get to the rim more consistently. When Kawhi sees the lane, he takes it.

The point is that taking it to the rim is relatively unimportant. The uniqueness of the comparison is the similarity in defensive stance and strategy between the 2, and that the impact on that end of the floor may rival some of the best offensive players.

Regarding offernse, Kawhi is not great at driving to the rim. He gets the vast majority of his points from motion and mid-long range shooting. 17% comes at the rim, transition notwithstanding. Both players have an advantage in mobility relative to length, rather than first-step burst or overly creative dribbling. To me, the comparison, although imperfect because of differences in positional duties, is very strong in many areas.

Strongly disagree about the importance of getting to the rim. Every time Frank took it to the rim, they worried more about Frank getting past them the next time, which makes it easier to find teammates. Because they have to respect his ability to get to the rim.

Its also important to get to the rim to get the other team in foul trouble. Help put their stars on the bench. Harder to do it if you arent going at them.

The point is it’s relatively unimportant with respect to the comparison to Kawhi, not that its unimportant entirely. Again, Kawhi does not take it to the rim often - I’m not sure why this is being brought up. There are 2 unique similarities here - 1) mobility relative to length and 2) the defensive impact is so great that it may trump that of excellent offensive players. There are few in the league that meet these criteria and that’s the why comparison is both accurate and discriminating.

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11/5/2017  11:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/5/2017  11:06 PM
codeunknown wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too

The obsession with dribble drive is baffling. Frank is better on defense than anyone in the draft is on offense. He’s warping that end of the floor. We don’t always get to be right as Knick fans, but I called the Kawhi comparisons, and Frankie is doing us proud early.

Dont believe the Kawhi comparisons are apt until Frank can get to the rim more consistently. When Kawhi sees the lane, he takes it.

The point is that taking it to the rim is relatively unimportant. The uniqueness of the comparison is the similarity in defensive stance and strategy between the 2, and that the impact on that end of the floor may rival some of the best offensive players.

Regarding offernse, Kawhi is not great at driving to the rim. He gets the vast majority of his points from motion and mid-long range shooting. 17% comes at the rim, transition notwithstanding. Both players have an advantage in mobility relative to length, rather than first-step burst or overly creative dribbling. To me, the comparison, although imperfect because of differences in positional duties, is very strong in many areas.

Strongly disagree about the importance of getting to the rim. Every time Frank took it to the rim, they worried more about Frank getting past them the next time, which makes it easier to find teammates. Because they have to respect his ability to get to the rim.

Its also important to get to the rim to get the other team in foul trouble. Help put their stars on the bench. Harder to do it if you arent going at them.

The point is it’s relatively unimportant with respect to the comparison to Kawhi, not that its unimportant entirely. Again, Kawhi does not take it to the rim often - I’m not sure why this is being brought up. There are 2 unique similarities here - 1) mobility relative to length and 2) the defensive impact is so great that it may trump that of excellent offensive players. There are few in the league that meet these criteria and that’s the why comparison is both accurate and discriminating.

I can see some similarities to Kawhi, Kawhiesque, lol. Leonard is a SF, and Frank has a different job description as a PG. Frank has played over 100 minutes and gotten to the line once.

That Crossover Frank showed was a relief. Showing he can be a threat to get to the paint at will, would really open up things for Frank, and the rest of the team in a big way.

Just has to develop a chip on his shoulder about going right at them.

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11/5/2017  11:08 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
codeunknown wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:Lets pump the brakes on the Dennis Johnson, Billups and Rondo comparisons. Franks averaging 4pts, 3asts and shooting 31% from the fieldHe hasn;t shown anything to merit those comparisons...

yea Mr. Not taking Dennis Smith is going to set us back years. You were saying? Frank's just a triangle PG? This is going to hurt for years? Frank is missing that burst? Seems like at 19 years old he's got quite a bit. There arent a lot of NBA players playing defense like Frank is right now. He keeps this up he's winning an award.

Sorry to gloat, but Frank was drafted because he's a great defender and a winner. We saw that on full display tonight. Yes KP did the heavy lifting. Frank's defense was amazing, the kind of impact I expect from an all NBA defender, not a 19 year old rookie averaging 4pts and 3 assists.

Sorry but that game was intoxicating. Seeing our future flash before our eyes. So good. Fuck Dennis Smith Jr and Sr too

The obsession with dribble drive is baffling. Frank is better on defense than anyone in the draft is on offense. He’s warping that end of the floor. We don’t always get to be right as Knick fans, but I called the Kawhi comparisons, and Frankie is doing us proud early.

Dont believe the Kawhi comparisons are apt until Frank can get to the rim more consistently. When Kawhi sees the lane, he takes it.

The point is that taking it to the rim is relatively unimportant. The uniqueness of the comparison is the similarity in defensive stance and strategy between the 2, and that the impact on that end of the floor may rival some of the best offensive players.

Regarding offernse, Kawhi is not great at driving to the rim. He gets the vast majority of his points from motion and mid-long range shooting. 17% comes at the rim, transition notwithstanding. Both players have an advantage in mobility relative to length, rather than first-step burst or overly creative dribbling. To me, the comparison, although imperfect because of differences in positional duties, is very strong in many areas.

Strongly disagree about the importance of getting to the rim. Every time Frank took it to the rim, they worried more about Frank getting past them the next time, which makes it easier to find teammates. Because they have to respect his ability to get to the rim.

Its also important to get to the rim to get the other team in foul trouble. Help put their stars on the bench. Harder to do it if you arent going at them.

The point is it’s relatively unimportant with respect to the comparison to Kawhi, not that its unimportant entirely. Again, Kawhi does not take it to the rim often - I’m not sure why this is being brought up. There are 2 unique similarities here - 1) mobility relative to length and 2) the defensive impact is so great that it may trump that of excellent offensive players. There are few in the league that meet these criteria and that’s the why comparison is both accurate and discriminating.

I can see some similarities to Kawhi, Kawhiesque, lol. Leonard is a SF, and Frank has a different job description as a PG. Frank has played over 100 minutes and gotten to the line once.

That Crossover Frank showed was a relief. Showing he can be a threat to get to the paint at will, would really open up things for Frank, and the rest of the team in a big way.

Just has to develop a chip on his shoulder about going right at them.

Yes, if he can develop that aspect, there will be a lot of good nights for us Knick fans. It will come down to him leveraging his length and shooting.

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11/5/2017  11:12 PM
Tonight showed why frank is the better prospect and the supior player... franks vision is incredible he makes all of his teammates better when hes on the court. He’s one of those pg’s that passes the ball in the perfect spots for his teammates to score easily. His defense on Collison was spectacular he shut down a very good vet point guard at 19. Franks game produces wins not just highlights, Porzingis and frank are already building chemistry this is the start to something BIG !

Thanks Phil Jackson your the Best !!!!!

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fitzfarm wrote:Tonight showed why frank is the better prospect and the supior player... franks vision is incredible he makes all of his teammates better when hes on the court. He’s one of those pg’s that passes the ball in the perfect spots for his teammates to score easily. His defense on Collison was spectacular he shut down a very good vet point guard at 19. Franks game produces wins not just highlights, Porzingis and frank are already building chemistry this is the start to something BIG !

Thanks Phil Jackson your the Best !!!!!

YUP! You could really see what makes Frank special. It was great to see Frank in crunch time with KP.

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11/6/2017  6:55 AM
Frank sees the game with plays in mind.
He is looking to see the plays happen and then make the move. It's not all about his scoring.
DSJ is more about attacking, looking to score and then when the pass is there he makes.

Two completely styles of play.

I think Phil Jackson was right in this case. Frank complements KP much more. Jason Terry was Dirk Nowitzki's best "point" guard during their championship and it was an old Jason Kidd who helped them. When you build a team around a great scoring big man like we have and are planning to, you want a point guard who will pass, shoot the 3, defend and make the right plays off the playbook that sets up the big man properly.

Frank's the right pick for us. DSJ may be the better individual player, but I really like Frank for us.

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11/6/2017  7:15 AM
The Kid had a great game. He shut down all of the Pacers back court penetration in the 4th Quarter. He made aome HUGE 3pt. shots and showed signs of what he can be once he gets more confidence and decides to penetrate. Had a couple of good looking drives. Usual good cpurt vision. BIG reason why we won this game!! He played like a bonafied top 10 pick. If he continues to play like this and improve I can gladly say he will prove me wrong. Great game.
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11/6/2017  7:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/6/2017  7:17 AM
nyknickzingis wrote:Frank sees the game with plays in mind.
He is looking to see the plays happen and then make the move. It's not all about his scoring.
DSJ is more about attacking, looking to score and then when the pass is there he makes.

Two completely styles of play.

I think Phil Jackson was right in this case. Frank complements KP much more. Jason Terry was Dirk Nowitzki's best "point" guard during their championship and it was an old Jason Kidd who helped them. When you build a team around a great scoring big man like we have and are planning to, you want a point guard who will pass, shoot the 3, defend and make the right plays off the playbook that sets up the big man properly.

Frank's the right pick for us. DSJ may be the better individual player, but I really like Frank for us.

Time will tell, but I wouldn't be surprised if long term Smith is a better scorer but Frank is the better all-around player.
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11/6/2017  7:49 AM
fitzfarm wrote:Tonight showed why frank is the better prospect and the supior player... franks vision is incredible he makes all of his teammates better when hes on the court. He’s one of those pg’s that passes the ball in the perfect spots for his teammates to score easily. His defense on Collison was spectacular he shut down a very good vet point guard at 19. Franks game produces wins not just highlights, Porzingis and frank are already building chemistry this is the start to something BIG !

Thanks Phil Jackson your the Best !!!!!

His defense is pretty incredible, his length is very deceptive, it looks like a player has an open look and the next thing you know he has a hand in the shooters face. His offensive game has a very long way to go though he is so hesitant off the dribble. A few times last night he had an opening to drive but he held back, the kid needs to trust his ability.

One thing that was great to watch is how unselfish the guys around Porzingis are. No one is out there forcing up shots trying to put up numbers. They know Porzingis has a mismatch every time down the court and there letting the offense flow through him and picking their spots.

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