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fitzfarm
Posts: 25060 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2010 Member: #3285 |
10/31/2017 12:28 PM
Chandler wrote:Magic Johnson wasn't explosive; neither was Jason Kidd; Steph Curry?; Chris Paul (not what I would call him) the list goes on I think frank is so unique, I have a feeling we will be in for a treat like no other like KP the world is his oyster. Some hard work and I cant imagine how good he will be by 22. The K Leonard of pg’s with j Kidd like vision a true floor general with sharpshooting ability. But most importantly a winning team first mentality |
GoNyGoNyGo
Posts: 23559 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/29/2003 Member: #411 USA |
10/31/2017 12:35 PM LAST EDITED: 10/31/2017 12:39 PM
Smith jr is having troubles with his knee now.
Smith may have the better upside now, but I like Frank over the long haul. He is the 4th piece to a solid starting five. The truth is that if NY could find the right 3 and D SF, they would be a playoff team now, thanks to Kanter, KP, Hardaway, Jack and Lee and KOQ (edit) Frank does not hurt the team when he is in the game. His D is getting contagious. |
Chandler
Posts: 25959 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
10/31/2017 12:36 PM
fitzfarm wrote:Chandler wrote:Magic Johnson wasn't explosive; neither was Jason Kidd; Steph Curry?; Chris Paul (not what I would call him) the list goes on I agree. Can only hope at this point but his D against Wade the other night was amazing -- real competitor, no deer-in-the-headlights (5)(5)
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27152 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
10/31/2017 2:32 PM LAST EDITED: 10/31/2017 2:40 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:martin wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:fishmike wrote:Welpee wrote:If DSJr had a monster game people would jump all over it. Last night he puts up 17 min, 2 pts, 1 assist, 4 to, -21 +/- and not a peep? Not to mention Dallas is now 1-7.yea he's just another guy on another team. There were a lot of dudes saying dumb stuff... how not picking him would set us back many years, how Frank was only a wingspan guy, wasnt a PG and my favorite "is only a triangle pick." Hopefully your right. But so far he has played like an athletic second rounder. But agreed. 19 years old is impressive. And he has shown a lot potential. Cant keep repeating this enough. I hope he turns out to be better, the last 2 games gives me confidence. My argument was on the rational of the type of pick. But that is just IMHO. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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KnickDanger
Posts: 23941 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/30/2017 Member: #7578 |
10/31/2017 6:18 PM
You just cannot evaluate Frank with using his age as a primary consideration. For those of us over the age of say 25, think of how much more --of a man -- you become from around 18 to 23. Physically, mentally emotionally. That this kid seems to have the physical gifts and skills to be a very good player at his age -- well who can set the limit? Since he apparently works hard, I'm very optimistic. But his best is a few years away.
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PresIke
Posts: 27640 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/26/2001 Member: #33 USA |
11/1/2017 2:03 PM
Happy for his contributions, and impressed with his vision, but cannot help but notice the issues are still real that we saw in the scouting reports (videos) regarding keeping his handle. That one sequence was quite jarring to see for a PG.
Forum Po Po and #33 for a reason...
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reub
Posts: 21836 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2016 Member: #6227 |
11/2/2017 1:15 AM
8 assists and FIVE steals tonight against Harden and the Rockets. I see Hornacek using him more and more. His defense is already elite and I believe that his offense will get better almost by the game for the next few years. He's a real treasure!
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Jmpasq
Posts: 25241 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/10/2012 Member: #4182 |
11/2/2017 5:46 AM
reub wrote:8 assists and FIVE steals tonight against Harden and the Rockets. I see Hornacek using him more and more. His defense is already elite and I believe that his offense will get better almost by the game for the next few years. He's a real treasure! His defense is the real deal and his vision is better than I expected the concerns about his ability to score and handle are legitimate Check out My NFL Draft Prospect Videos at Youtube User Pages Jmpasq,JPdraftjedi,Jmpasqdraftjedi. www.Draftbreakdown.com
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Ira
Posts: 24677 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/14/2001 Member: #91 |
11/2/2017 6:40 AM
Frank needs to work on his shot. He had improved his shot to where it was good when he joined the French national team. I think he's been neglecting it to work on other parts of his game.
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Chandler
Posts: 25959 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
11/2/2017 10:27 AM
I honestly have zero problems with the way Frank's progressing
He should be focusing on D and team mgmt. first. Besides our need for D, it will help team chemistry as the last thing this team needs is a pg most concerned with his own shot. for now, he should be making the other team pay, if they ignore him; nothing more aggressive than that K.Leonard started out as D-first player; and if frank turns out to be half the player of Leonard that's awesome I think it was at the end of the 3d quarter when Harden tried to cross him up with some razzle dazzle and Frank stuck his squid-arm in there and poked it away -- same as he did multiple times with Wade those are two players with elite handles (5)(5)
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ekstarks94
Posts: 21011 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/5/2015 Member: #6104 |
11/2/2017 10:31 AM
Chandler wrote:I honestly have zero problems with the way Frank's progressing The thing with Frank is that his reach is deceptive the way he positions himself is ideal for steals with arms out....when he stripped Harden going up for the 3 on the left wing you can see it...at the end of the third he held his ground as Harden could not get the handle tight enuff to get around his length....same with D wade...when Frank learns how not jump on the hessys and fakes....he will lock MFer's DOWN |
fishmike
Posts: 53037 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
11/2/2017 10:35 AM
Jmpasq wrote:His handle is great. Scoring is a wait and see. There is a speed of game adjustment he needs to make with his shooting. It make come it may not. He certainly doesnt seem to lack any tool that would hinder his offense.reub wrote:8 assists and FIVE steals tonight against Harden and the Rockets. I see Hornacek using him more and more. His defense is already elite and I believe that his offense will get better almost by the game for the next few years. He's a real treasure! I was concerned about his handle at first, but I think its great and I like how he uses his length to pass over or around other players. Frank is 19. He was not drafted to be Lebron. What looks great is he's showing what he was drafted for at an NBA level... at 19. You see his defense and length he could be one of the best stoppers. Ever. Thats kinda exciting. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
11/2/2017 10:39 AM LAST EDITED: 11/2/2017 11:43 AM
Jmpasq wrote:Handles can be developed and while he'll probably never be an elite scorer you really don't need 20 ppg from him. Just look at Rondo. Why people expect him to be a finished product at age 19 and 7 games into his career beats me.reub wrote:8 assists and FIVE steals tonight against Harden and the Rockets. I see Hornacek using him more and more. His defense is already elite and I believe that his offense will get better almost by the game for the next few years. He's a real treasure! |
codeunknown
Posts: 22615 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 7/14/2004 Member: #704 |
11/2/2017 11:02 AM
fishmike wrote:Jmpasq wrote:His handle is great. Scoring is a wait and see. There is a speed of game adjustment he needs to make with his shooting. It make come it may not. He certainly doesnt seem to lack any tool that would hinder his offense.reub wrote:8 assists and FIVE steals tonight against Harden and the Rockets. I see Hornacek using him more and more. His defense is already elite and I believe that his offense will get better almost by the game for the next few years. He's a real treasure! This is right. On draft night, I debuted a Kawhi Leonard comparison. Frank has defensive potential beyond just good and those margins may warp that end of the floor. Sh-t in the popcorn to go with sh-t on the court. Its a theme show like Medieval times.
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Chandler
Posts: 25959 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 11/26/2015 Member: #6197 |
11/2/2017 12:43 PM
Welpee wrote:Jmpasq wrote:Handles can be developed and while he'll probably never be an elite scorer you really don't need 20 ppg from him. Just look at Rondo. Why people expect him to be a finished product at age 19 and 7 games into his career beats me.reub wrote:8 assists and FIVE steals tonight against Harden and the Rockets. I see Hornacek using him more and more. His defense is already elite and I believe that his offense will get better almost by the game for the next few years. He's a real treasure! good point but I don't like the Rondo comparison -- Rondo simply can't shoot reliably Frank can shoot. He needs to find some rhythm of when to look for his shot and when not too (that will come). He needs to learn to use his length to his advantage. Yes he's 6'5" or so but with those arms he must have an amazing standing reach for a point guard. Like KP he will be able to shoot over opponents without having to jump over them. Nice little floater in the lane under control and well balanced for transition or rebound if he misses (as opposed to the kamikaze approach of D. Rose and his ilk, where if they don't score they create a fast break opportunity for the other team as they crawl back on the court) (5)(5)
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