Paris907 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Horny doesn't like to run plays his first game in pre season. He did the same **** last year. That's why guys looked lax at times. Brooklyn was in mid season form. This guy Acy was talking smack to the crowd lol. Like calm down duke.

What you guys see from Willy? I thought he was rather lack luster. He seems more professional about his business but outside of that he was a bench guy to me. Still a good player but I'm not comfortable that we can win with him playing heavy minutes. Kanter to me is the better player. Just from the eye test and their action on the court. Willy is just there. Kanter is making things happen

So you’re ready to write off Wily after 1 exhibit game. Year 1,
As a rookie, wily played 18 MPG. His 36 minute #s would have been 16 points and 13.6 boards. You’re real issue isn’t boards though it obviously matters. The issue is who cannand will play D? After years in the league, Kantor was 63 of 66 defensively. That reeks of matador D and it will ultimately define his role and his limitations. We all see he can fill it up. Fine. But before you make Kanter the second coming of Shaq, give it a little time.

You are romanticizing the while thing.

Willy lacks aggression. That's to put it simply. His skills are there. He makes my nature rise whenever he makes moves inside #pause. He lacks the traits of a guy you can count on to make something happen. Not a knock to the guy. I love his game but I'm not going to overstate.

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I see some of the old bad habits with this unit. They are slow a split second too late. They can't as a team shoot. the way I see it is no number 1 draft pick can't save this team. It will take years. I'm a lot older than some of you guys and I am tired of waiting for us to go to the finals. I watched some of the other games last night and those players are dead eye shooters and that's what we don't have. Now I'm a knicks die hard, but I don't want to die waiting for the knicks to get a ring. HOW FREAKING LONG WILL IT TAKE?? I'VE REACHED MY 70s AND STILL WAITING. DAMN I'M GETTING SICK OF THIS EVERY YEAR JUST WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR.

Papabear, did you say 70? Now that's a true knick fan. You've been through the best and worst times of our history. My history only goes back to drafting Patrick Ewing and watching the knicks of the 90's during the Jordan era. I was too young to sit down and watch any games before that. I was 1 just learning how to walk, when we won our last championship.

So congrats to you for enjoying our glory days.

Yes, I see similar habits.....But I'm always comparing this team to the 90s and that's probably not fair. Different culture....different NBA generation and style of play. But how come our team defensive IQ is always low? How come we are always a step slow when they swing the ball? How come each player doesn't play ball denial? Teams aren't doing anything special, other than swinging the ball. So you know where the ball is going.....

But outside of the championship team....and 90's knicks......This team building process looks very promising. In 3 yrs, these guys will all know each others game, and should look better as a team on both ends. We have lots of high IQ players.....a good mix of youth and vets. Lots of redundant positions, which helps during injuries.

Like every year, I will always be excited.....full of optimism. Until our first blowout.....lol

EnySpree wrote:

Paris907 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:Horny doesn't like to run plays his first game in pre season. He did the same **** last year. That's why guys looked lax at times. Brooklyn was in mid season form. This guy Acy was talking smack to the crowd lol. Like calm down duke.

What you guys see from Willy? I thought he was rather lack luster. He seems more professional about his business but outside of that he was a bench guy to me. Still a good player but I'm not comfortable that we can win with him playing heavy minutes. Kanter to me is the better player. Just from the eye test and their action on the court. Willy is just there. Kanter is making things happen

So you’re ready to write off Wily after 1 exhibit game. Year 1,
As a rookie, wily played 18 MPG. His 36 minute #s would have been 16 points and 13.6 boards. You’re real issue isn’t boards though it obviously matters. The issue is who cannand will play D? After years in the league, Kantor was 63 of 66 defensively. That reeks of matador D and it will ultimately define his role and his limitations. We all see he can fill it up. Fine. But before you make Kanter the second coming of Shaq, give it a little time.

You are romanticizing the while thing.

Willy lacks aggression. That's to put it simply. His skills are there. He makes my nature rise whenever he makes moves inside #pause. He lacks the traits of a guy you can count on to make something happen. Not a knock to the guy. I love his game but I'm not going to overstate.

When he makes your nature rise, is this something you’ve considered seeing a physician about ?
How does a guy in the NBA average 13.6 rebounds over 36 minutes and lack aggression?

blkexec wrote:

Papabear wrote:Papabear Says

I see some of the old bad habits with this unit. They are slow a split second too late. They can't as a team shoot. the way I see it is no number 1 draft pick can't save this team. It will take years. I'm a lot older than some of you guys and I am tired of waiting for us to go to the finals. I watched some of the other games last night and those players are dead eye shooters and that's what we don't have. Now I'm a knicks die hard, but I don't want to die waiting for the knicks to get a ring. HOW FREAKING LONG WILL IT TAKE?? I'VE REACHED MY 70s AND STILL WAITING. DAMN I'M GETTING SICK OF THIS EVERY YEAR JUST WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR.

Papabear, did you say 70? Now that's a true knick fan. You've been through the best and worst times of our history. My history only goes back to drafting Patrick Ewing and watching the knicks of the 90's during the Jordan era. I was too young to sit down and watch any games before that. I was 1 just learning how to walk, when we won our last championship.

So congrats to you for enjoying our glory days.

Yes, I see similar habits.....But I'm always comparing this team to the 90s and that's probably not fair. Different culture....different NBA generation and style of play. But how come our team defensive IQ is always low? How come we are always a step slow when they swing the ball? How come each player doesn't play ball denial? Teams aren't doing anything special, other than swinging the ball. So you know where the ball is going.....

But outside of the championship team....and 90's knicks......This team building process looks very promising. In 3 yrs, these guys will all know each others game, and should look better as a team on both ends. We have lots of high IQ players.....a good mix of youth and vets. Lots of redundant positions, which helps during injuries.

Like every year, I will always be excited.....full of optimism. Until our first blowout.....lol

Congrats Papabear. I’m a 50 year Knick fan this year. Saw both championship runs and at the Garden.
Seem a lot come and go and the Bellamy HOWIE Komive ever deal for DeBushere was still our best transaction bar none!