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Nalod
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10/24/2017  3:47 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
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NYKBocker wrote:
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franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Nets ended up with a really nice player in Russell. They gave up a lot--but they got an essential piece back.

What did they really give up? They essentially took Russell as payment for taking on Mozgov. Did Lopez have a future in Brooklyn?

I wish the Knicks had been in a position to make that deal.

The pick that they lost was Kuzma--who could be an NBA star--hes darn good already and Lopez--thats a big price. If ytou want to look at it as pick 27 and Lopez--maybe not bad--but they have Kuzma and no rookie Ive seen has looked better. But the Nets got paid with Russell and Allen Crabbe looks like the 2nd coming of H2O.

Did the Nets pick Kuzma or did the Lakers pick Kuzma?


Lakers got that pick before draft night.

Then its not so bad. Lakers just made a great pick.

Both teams did well--thats always good. Man the Nets--even with losing Lin(which is not chump chnage right?) look very much improved. They space the floor and pass the ball very well. They could be building Golden State east there.

They have looked great. I really like what Marks has done there. He and Atkinson have a good thing going.

The impressive part is they are doing it without top draft picks or major free agent signing--their course is much harder than the Knicks but have already passed them with much less. Its not about luck its about management skills.

I agree. They had cap space to mop up others mistakes and while perhaps over paid, inflation will adjust and if some live up to the contracts they are tradable assets if desired. Bottom line is not what they paid but they got good talent. The system worked for the Nets. They take on salary, take a short cut to aquire talent, not an embarrassment on the road in other teams arenas (like Philly was a few years back) and they save other owners tax money. Redistribution sort of.
One asset they had in BroPez was able to get a good young player in return.

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Knickoftime
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10/24/2017  3:52 PM
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Nets ended up with a really nice player in Russell. They gave up a lot--but they got an essential piece back.

What did they really give up? They essentially took Russell as payment for taking on Mozgov. Did Lopez have a future in Brooklyn?

I wish the Knicks had been in a position to make that deal.

The pick that they lost was Kuzma--who could be an NBA star--hes darn good already and Lopez--thats a big price. If ytou want to look at it as pick 27 and Lopez--maybe not bad--but they have Kuzma and no rookie Ive seen has looked better. But the Nets got paid with Russell and Allen Crabbe looks like the 2nd coming of H2O.

Did the Nets pick Kuzma or did the Lakers pick Kuzma?


Lakers got that pick before draft night.

Then its not so bad. Lakers just made a great pick.

Both teams did well--thats always good. Man the Nets--even with losing Lin(which is not chump chnage right?) look very much improved. They space the floor and pass the ball very well. They could be building Golden State east there.

They have looked great. I really like what Marks has done there. He and Atkinson have a good thing going.

The impressive part is they are doing it without top draft picks or major free agent signing--their course is much harder than the Knicks but have already passed them with much less. Its not about luck its about management skills.

I agree. They had cap space to mop up others mistakes and while perhaps over paid, inflation will adjust and if some live up to the contracts they are tradable assets if desired. Bottom line is not what they paid but they got good talent. The system worked for the Nets. They take on salary, take a short cut to aquire talent, not an embarrassment on the road in other teams arenas (like Philly was a few years back) and they save other owners tax money. Redistribution sort of.
One asset they had in BroPez was able to get a good young player in return.

I am missing something here? They've played three games.

CrushAlot
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10/24/2017  4:17 PM
Nalod wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
franco12 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Nets ended up with a really nice player in Russell. They gave up a lot--but they got an essential piece back.

What did they really give up? They essentially took Russell as payment for taking on Mozgov. Did Lopez have a future in Brooklyn?

I wish the Knicks had been in a position to make that deal.

The pick that they lost was Kuzma--who could be an NBA star--hes darn good already and Lopez--thats a big price. If ytou want to look at it as pick 27 and Lopez--maybe not bad--but they have Kuzma and no rookie Ive seen has looked better. But the Nets got paid with Russell and Allen Crabbe looks like the 2nd coming of H2O.

Did the Nets pick Kuzma or did the Lakers pick Kuzma?


Lakers got that pick before draft night.

Then its not so bad. Lakers just made a great pick.

Both teams did well--thats always good. Man the Nets--even with losing Lin(which is not chump chnage right?) look very much improved. They space the floor and pass the ball very well. They could be building Golden State east there.

They have looked great. I really like what Marks has done there. He and Atkinson have a good thing going.

The impressive part is they are doing it without top draft picks or major free agent signing--their course is much harder than the Knicks but have already passed them with much less. Its not about luck its about management skills.

I agree. They had cap space to mop up others mistakes and while perhaps over paid, inflation will adjust and if some live up to the contracts they are tradable assets if desired. Bottom line is not what they paid but they got good talent. The system worked for the Nets. They take on salary, take a short cut to aquire talent, not an embarrassment on the road in other teams arenas (like Philly was a few years back) and they save other owners tax money. Redistribution sort of.
One asset they had in BroPez was able to get a good young player in return.

I think they did really well in the Carroll trade. I would not be surprised if they end up trading him for a first when he is in the last year of his deal. I think they end up moving Booker this year for a pick but he plays so well for them they might want to keep him.
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CrushAlot
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10/25/2017  7:40 PM
I think we know what we're doing..... Phil Jackson
BRIGGS
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10/25/2017  8:14 PM
2nd time Ive sen Charlotte. D Bacon looks like a very very nice 2nd rd pick--big big guard. Many guys from rd 2 get consistent minutes but our guy doesnt play?
franco12
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10/25/2017  10:08 PM
The Nets pick this year is not going to be a top pick! They are going to be better than us, and honest, I would this moment trade everything with them - front office, players, picks or lack there of.

They are building a team, and they are well on their way.

And who exactly is their star?

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10/25/2017  10:15 PM
franco12 wrote:The Nets pick this year is not going to be a top pick! They are going to be better than us, and honest, I would this moment trade everything with them - front office, players, picks or lack there of.

They are building a team, and they are well on their way.

And who exactly is their star?


Everyone is on the same page and they all are working for the same goal. They are well coached and well run. Carroll has looked great. They did very well in that trade. Russell has looked really good as well.
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BRIGGS
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10/25/2017  10:17 PM
Nets beat Clev without Russell and obviously Lin--they shouldve finished off Orlando and they be 4-1 their system basketball looks great.
NYKBocker
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10/25/2017  10:41 PM
BRIGGS wrote:Nets beat Clev without Russell and obviously Lin--they shouldve finished off Orlando and they be 4-1 their system basketball looks great.
Their coach is really good. I am jealous.
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10/25/2017  10:52 PM
Amazing that people fall for the 1st week/month thing EVERY season.
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10/26/2017  12:40 AM
Wall and Beal treated Lonzo like Beecher on the pilot episode of Oz. The kids hanging tough tho.
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GustavBahler
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10/26/2017  1:03 AM    LAST EDITED: 10/26/2017  1:03 AM
Have PG envy watching this game, lol. Cant believe we havent seen Frank get through more than one game yet. I really hope this ends soon. We need good news.

You know a team is really loaded when they can get rid of Russell as a salary dump, and still be loaded with talent.

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10/26/2017  1:10 AM
GustavBahler wrote:Have PG envy watching this game, lol. Cant believe we havent seen Frank get through more than one game yet. I really hope this ends soon. We need good news.

You know a team is really loaded when they can get rid of Russell as a salary dump, and still be loaded with talent.


Ball and Russell would be tough to watch on D. KCP, as inconsistent as he's been offensively, puts in the effort on D. Plus, Russell and the Lakers just needed to move on. The players will never let him live down the cell phone thing lol
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10/26/2017  1:10 AM
Impressed that the Lakers are going at the Wiz this early in the season. Ingram looks to be doing a good job of taking the heat off of Ball. The whole team really. Damn Lakers!
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10/26/2017  1:12 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Have PG envy watching this game, lol. Cant believe we havent seen Frank get through more than one game yet. I really hope this ends soon. We need good news.

You know a team is really loaded when they can get rid of Russell as a salary dump, and still be loaded with talent.


Ball and Russell would be tough to watch on D. KCP, as inconsistent as he's been offensively, puts in the effort on D. Plus, Russell and the Lakers just needed to move on. The players will never let him live down the cell phone thing lol

Russell's D wasnt half bad in LA, and it looked pretty good in preseason. Ball will get better when he's strong enough to better fight through picks.

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10/26/2017  1:18 AM
Lakers look like a sleeper playoff team right now. Cant wait to see LA/GS.
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10/26/2017  1:19 AM
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Have PG envy watching this game, lol. Cant believe we havent seen Frank get through more than one game yet. I really hope this ends soon. We need good news.

You know a team is really loaded when they can get rid of Russell as a salary dump, and still be loaded with talent.


Ball and Russell would be tough to watch on D. KCP, as inconsistent as he's been offensively, puts in the effort on D. Plus, Russell and the Lakers just needed to move on. The players will never let him live down the cell phone thing lol

Russell's D wasnt half bad in LA, and it looked pretty good in preseason. Ball will get better when he's strong enough to better fight through picks.


They came back lol Lonzo gets the last laugh. Ingram is the player of the game. Luke is a solid coach.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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10/26/2017  1:21 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Have PG envy watching this game, lol. Cant believe we havent seen Frank get through more than one game yet. I really hope this ends soon. We need good news.

You know a team is really loaded when they can get rid of Russell as a salary dump, and still be loaded with talent.


Ball and Russell would be tough to watch on D. KCP, as inconsistent as he's been offensively, puts in the effort on D. Plus, Russell and the Lakers just needed to move on. The players will never let him live down the cell phone thing lol

Russell's D wasnt half bad in LA, and it looked pretty good in preseason. Ball will get better when he's strong enough to better fight through picks.


They came back lol Lonzo gets the last laugh. Ingram is the player of the game. Luke is a solid coach.

Yup, Wiz were talking trash the whole game, especially Beal. You're right about Walton. Coach envy too, lol.

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10/26/2017  5:41 AM
Knickoftime wrote:Amazing that people fall for the 1st week/month thing EVERY season.
in regards to the nets, I don't think anyone is suggesting they are better than the cavs or that they are contenders. What is obvious is that they are well managed, well coached, are all on the same page, have continuity and stability. They are in every game and are worth watching.
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10/26/2017  7:40 AM

Westbrook getting healthy. Adams looked like a much stronger RoLo. Guy is a beast. George still seems out of place.

Melo Haters = Lin lovers who are mad Houston paid so much for his 15 Minutes,
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