nixluva wrote:CrushAlot wrote:Paris907 wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:fishmike wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:Makes sense. Anything related to the Knicks and that record the last 3 years should be clowned. Some favorites though:
48. Ricky Rubio Bahahaha. Was his outside shot/defense part of the formula?
44. Jusuf Nurkic (Portlands go to guy. After Lillard and CJ)
35. Middleton (Only played 29 games)
Any rookie. Who unlike Melo has yet to play a single game.
Can't wait to see how well he does in Houston.
why?
Because unlike you, I think he is still a very good player if surrounded by good players/facilitators. And unlike you, i think the Knick fans have scapegoated him in hopes of clouding the reality and real issues around here. And in order to prove the guys (haters), that I have been debating with, that they were wrong. Oh yeah... And I hate to shock you, but I am a fan
Melo, Hoodie Melo and brand Melo can be your cup of tea yet I've been fed up with Melo as he is essentially a losing player due to his selfishness. D'Antoni, George Karl and Phil all got a significant whiff of the inefficiencies he brings. Those are all very solid coaches and have publicly stated in one way or another just how unifaceted he is and that's good enough for me.
Phil never coached Melo and he never put a competitive team or hired a competent coach while he was running the Knicks. Cross him off your list. Karl and DAntoni both are flawed coaches and Karl has had personal issues that could have ended his career. D'Antoni waits 5 yrs and then comes out and says Melo forced him out when he was a lame duck coach that was losing, had had his successor put on his bench as his defensive assistant, and had a month left on his contract.
Sure there was never great talent around Melo but at some point you have to admit Melo just doesn't do what other top players do for their teams. More often than not Melo clashes with his coach and GM's game plan. Putting your trust in Melo is foolhardy. Melo is the F'n Angel of Death for coaches and GM's. His talent gives you the illusion that you can really make it work with him but over the long run you just end up losing. Sure Melo can be on a winning team but he's not really a winning player.
How anyone that claims they know basketball and it's history can claim the bold to be true but blame some one for not being a winner is beyond me. LBJ, Jordan, Magic etc etc, could not have won a chip with the "not great talent"(Misfits) Melo had around him.
Btw, love when people bring up Karl. Melo was how old? So we should release KP because he just did more than Melo ever did publicly? And Karl/editor was trying to sell a few books. Danfoni was a joke here. The Knicks record the following year proved he deserved to be fired. But let's pull up the article of Hornacek, Fisher, Woodson,every Olympic coach and what they have said about him. But those don't matter?
Melo's biggest flaws are that he takes too many bad shots, doeant go 100 each amd EVERY play on D, thinks he should do what fans expect which is be the savior and most of all, like all of us each and every year, trusted the Dolan front office to do the right thing and put together a quality team. But he is one of the best talents we have had and we whiffed on putting a winning team around him.
'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020