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Gudris
Posts: 20998 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/12/2015 Member: #6213 |
9/12/2017 6:07 PM
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KP4Life
Posts: 20127 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/16/2015 Member: #6117 USA |
9/12/2017 7:42 PM
yup he can be our point forward
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KEEPCAMBYNY
Posts: 20265 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/12/2001 Member: #86 USA |
9/13/2017 12:34 AM
With Doncic, it is only a matter of time before we take over the east. I like this lineup:
Willy This team will noy only be exciting, but can be a serious force going forward. I bleed orange and blue for life.
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Zebo13
Posts: 20376 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/31/2017 Member: #6434 USA |
9/13/2017 2:59 AM
TripleThreat wrote:awe1028 wrote:You beat me to it. Doncic (and Michael Porter) is exactly why you root for the Knicks to lose a whole lot of games and get a whole lot of ping pong balls in the 2018 draft. Sounds pretty spot on. |
Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
9/13/2017 8:54 AM
TripleThreat wrote:awe1028 wrote:You beat me to it. Doncic (and Michael Porter) is exactly why you root for the Knicks to lose a whole lot of games and get a whole lot of ping pong balls in the 2018 draft. I agree with you in this I always think NBA or any sports as a Business entity first. That determines what you get. The reason Knicks were gifted Pat Ewing back in the days was because MSG wasn't selling out there were a lot of empty seats. The reason Cleveland was gifted 3 first picks was because LBJ left for the betterment of the NBA. They live super teams formula always have. Now Nalod will just poopoo it as conspiracy theory. |
SupremeCommander
Posts: 33785 Alba Posts: 35 Joined: 4/28/2006 Member: #1127 |
9/13/2017 10:12 AM
I said Doncic or Porter in another thread yesterday too. The good news is Porter is the bigger name... I am unsure which is the better player to this point, but given that Doncic is an international player, and we have a bunch of international players, I think Doncic is a perfect fit
Sambakick wrote:
Gives a whole new meaning to "Jazz Hands"
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Nalod
Posts: 68624 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/13/2017 10:44 AM
Right, conspiracy works to hurt the team in the biggest market and that helps the league?
Why would the NBA do that? The owners own the league, and some of you think this kind of thing would sit well with them? I can see wanting to extend TV series but the other reality is do you think the owners of the GSW would put up with losing a series if the league actually did this and a player got hurt and they lost a series? Im not naive, but the notion of conspiracy is often bloated. The mess the knicks created was done so mostly with their own stupidity! As for who to draft? Yeah, we fans all know what we need. Its the path to it that can never be predicted. |
Gudris
Posts: 20998 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/12/2015 Member: #6213 |
9/13/2017 11:52 AM
Doncic said in interview yesterday he wants to be like KP and KP is maybe the best in the world
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KP4Life
Posts: 20127 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/16/2015 Member: #6117 USA |
9/13/2017 12:30 PM
If NBA draft is rigged (which I believe it is) why havent ww been gifted a number 1 since 1985? Shit I feels like we have the worst luck in the last ten years in drafting. We always end up going down. Not up. Meanwhile cavs gets 3 #1s in like 5 years. Seems crazy fishy to me. I think in the next few years we will be gifted a number 1 by stern. But who knows.
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KP4Life
Posts: 20127 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/16/2015 Member: #6117 USA |
9/13/2017 12:31 PM
*silver
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franco12
Posts: 33184 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 2/19/2004 Member: #599 USA |
9/13/2017 1:24 PM
Nalod wrote:Right, conspiracy works to hurt the team in the biggest market and that helps the league? Its fun to believe in conspiracy theories. But here I kinda think if there were some shenanigans going on, then a team like NYC with probably more ex-NYers living all over the country would have been rewarded at some point to help us. Look at any of our road games- more fans are wearing our gear than just about any franchise. Any time you see fans at road games wearing GS or Chicago Bulls, its cause they are front running fans. |
Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
9/13/2017 1:24 PM LAST EDITED: 9/13/2017 3:24 PM
TripleThreat wrote:And the Wizards got the #1 pick (John Wall) the draft after their owner Abe Pollin died in spite of having the 5th best odds.awe1028 wrote:You beat me to it. Doncic (and Michael Porter) is exactly why you root for the Knicks to lose a whole lot of games and get a whole lot of ping pong balls in the 2018 draft. |
Nalod
Posts: 68624 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/13/2017 1:29 PM
Even the worst team only has a 25% chance of the top pick.
THe odds are never in the worst teams favor. How many times the Knicks even been in the running for a top 5 pick? We don't rebuild until recently. We dropped two spots with KP and got lucky. Better KP than Ok4 or Russell. I'd have taken Towns No. 1. For that matter, I think few have the stones to admit they'd taken KP at the 2. Moving on, the draft conspiracy is all fabricated because some of you think the league runs the draft. Its the owners league!!!!! |
fishmike
Posts: 53115 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
9/13/2017 1:48 PM
TripleThreat wrote:its not rigged. How much transparency do you need?Nalod wrote:Right, conspiracy works to hurt the team in the biggest market and that helps the league? Also if you consider the downside of rigging it there is no logic there whatsoever. None. Can imagine the legal fall out that would occur if anything was ever proven? Is Silver pushing for lottery reform because its rigged? I mean just ask the most basic questions and the rigged conspiracy is laughable. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Nalod
Posts: 68624 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/13/2017 1:59 PM
I don't have time to break this down:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBA_Finals_television_ratings 2016 finals did go 7 games.......Ebb and flow? I get where your coming from but not sure the draft is part of the conspiracy. Nor can I see Ref's killing games to support ratings. |
Uptown
Posts: 30878 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
9/13/2017 2:27 PM LAST EDITED: 9/13/2017 2:29 PM
I'm taking Bagley and Porter ahead of Doncic....Especially Bagley who will give us the frontline athletic defender that we need.
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
9/13/2017 3:25 PM
fishmike wrote:It may not be rigged, but there have been some awfully "interesting" coincidences.TripleThreat wrote:its not rigged. How much transparency do you need?Nalod wrote:Right, conspiracy works to hurt the team in the biggest market and that helps the league? |
Knickoftime
Posts: 24159 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2011 Member: #3370 |
9/13/2017 3:42 PM
TripleThreat wrote:The league would have gift wrapped either Doncic or Porter to the Lakers if they had a pick. Yet the league blocked the Paul trade to the Lakers. The Lakers have been denied the chance to draft Wiggins, Parker, Emiid, Towns, Simmons. They've been arguably the NBA's worst team for four years. The NBA is doing an awful job conspiring to make the Lakers better. This draft process is so rigged that people in the industry just joke about it in public now. No they don't, and you're not going to prove otherwise, because you can't. If the Knicks want top lottery picks from now on, Dolan has TO SELL THE TEAM FOR A RECORD PRICE, and the new ownership will be "gifted" some top lottery picks as the bounty for raising the value of all franchises with some stupid over the top offer. As always, the problem with the conspiracy theories is they collapse under the weight of their own logic, but the people who believe in them aren't very good at identifying logic, and are too invested in them to actually scrutinize their premises. This ridiculous theory relies on the notion that teams like the Knicks and the Kings and for many years the Wolves who just can't gain any traction idly sit by allow the league to cater to other teams. If you don't immediately recognize how stupid this is, the problem is you just can't. |
Knickoftime
Posts: 24159 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/13/2011 Member: #3370 |
9/13/2017 3:53 PM
TripleThreat wrote:If the NBA could get another half billion in a big TV contract, they'd murder an entire preschool if they had to do it. They'd kill every last child of every last member of UK here. They'd burn them alive like Shireen in Game of Thrones. Every major pro sport has it's own security element. We are talking, not just retired law enforcement and retired gurus from the civil legal system, but mercenaries, former military, contractors, information brokers. A private army. You think when MLB put it's foothold into Latin America and baseball there that there was no bloodshed? It could be basketball, it could be women's makeup, it could be Post It notes, put enough money into something and people are gonna get clipped. If they are willing to cut your childrens throats in front of you for a few nickels in your pocket, you think they are going to hesitate to rig a machine go spit out one ping pong ball over another? Conspiracy theories are good for fun and games. It makes no sense for me that anyone who is a fan or follower of a sports league who believe it's rigged would remain a fan or follower, but that's a topic for another time. This however, isn't fun and games. This is frankly, disturbing. If you genuinely believe Adam Silver, Roger Goodell, Rob Manfred. etc, either do or potentially would order mass homicide or genocide, I mean this in all sincerity, you should seek help. This is an irrational, and underlyingly violent worldview. |