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8/14/2017  5:50 PM
Kemet wrote:You
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Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

Mark Jackson may have been more NBA ready because he was 22 yrs old when he entered the league while Frank is 18(now 19) and would be entering his freshman year of college this yr. The level of comp we don't know which one is better. Frank at 18 yrs old played against 20+ to 30 yr olds who already played ball in college and even have some NBA experience. Ex Knicks Mardy Collins who averaged 17-4-4 as a senior in college was on his team last year at 32 yrs old. How would Collins fair if he played in NCAA today at 32? Jackson played against other 22-18 yr olds and held an age advantage as a senior against a lot of his competition. There may have been better college comp for Jackson though due to more players staying in college those years. But today would the 18-22 yr olds in college be able to hang with 26 yr olds or 30yr olds? Possibly if they put the best of the best college players on one team. But I don't know if NCAA champ NC would beat Frank's team Strasbourg or any club in in the French league due to the experience and physical maturity gap.

Frank also adopted a more patient and smooth style due to don't wanting to make mistakes and get pulled since he did play professionally. When he played with his peers and knew that he would get burn no matter what due to being one the better players on his team he balled out. It may take some time for him to have that type of confidence in the NBA. I think him getting stronger physically will go a long way.

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8/14/2017  6:02 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

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8/14/2017  6:31 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

it was speculated that jr offered a discount for his services if they sign his brother, although that has never been confirm.

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8/14/2017  6:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/14/2017  6:50 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

it was speculated that jr offered a discount for his services if they sign his brother, although that has never been confirm.

It was basically confirmed when JR tweeted betrayal when his brother got cut after the new Prez came in. But besides that. Do you personally believe that Mills signed Smith due to being incompetent? And that Mills felt that Smith had the skills to be an NBA player? That Mills felt he was that necessary to keep over other more pressing needs? Then again if that was the case and was just a natural bball decision. It wouldn't just be up to Mills either. Woodson would have had to have a major say in that and feel the same way. Or did Mills go against Woodson's advice & against all logic, and demand that Smith be apart of the team because he was absolutely sure that he would be the missing piece to deep playoff run?

It seems to make waaaaay more sense that Smith was signed in order to get JR to sign at the discount he did. Over Mills and Woodson being that poor in judgement within player evaluations. Don't know why we can't call it like it was. Then again to call it like it was wouldn't fit a certain narrative now would it???

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8/14/2017  7:03 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

it was speculated that jr offered a discount for his services if they sign his brother, although that has never been confirm.

It was basically confirmed when JR tweeted betrayal when his brother got cut after the new Prez came in. But besides that. Do you personally believe that Mills signed Smith due to being incompetent? And that Mills felt that Smith had the skills to be an NBA player? That Mills felt he was that necessary to keep over other more pressing needs? Then again if that was the case and was just a natural bball decision. It wouldn't just be up to Mills either. Woodson would have had to have a major say in that and feel the same way. Or did Mills go against Woodson's advice & against all logic, and demand that Smith be apart of the team because he was absolutely sure that he would be the missing piece to deep playoff run?

It seems to make waaaaay more sense that Smith was signed in order to get JR to sign at the discount he did. Over Mills and Woodson being that poor in judgement within player evaluations. Don't know why we can't call it like it was. Then again to call it like it was wouldn't fit a certain narrative now would it???

After a great regular season. JR singlehandledly torpedoed the Knicks chances in the playoffs with another meltdown. He was rewarded with a new deal and a contract for his brother. He followed it up with a drug suspension. He was known to be a total bust in the playoffs for the Knicks since he got there, but was signed anyway.

It was an awful, awful signing. And it made JR feel like he was untouchable. He acted like it. Talk about rewarding bad behavior.

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8/14/2017  7:32 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

it was speculated that jr offered a discount for his services if they sign his brother, although that has never been confirm.

It was basically confirmed when JR tweeted betrayal when his brother got cut after the new Prez came in. But besides that. Do you personally believe that Mills signed Smith due to being incompetent? And that Mills felt that Smith had the skills to be an NBA player? That Mills felt he was that necessary to keep over other more pressing needs? Then again if that was the case and was just a natural bball decision. It wouldn't just be up to Mills either. Woodson would have had to have a major say in that and feel the same way. Or did Mills go against Woodson's advice & against all logic, and demand that Smith be apart of the team because he was absolutely sure that he would be the missing piece to deep playoff run?

It seems to make waaaaay more sense that Smith was signed in order to get JR to sign at the discount he did. Over Mills and Woodson being that poor in judgement within player evaluations. Don't know why we can't call it like it was. Then again to call it like it was wouldn't fit a certain narrative now would it???

I don't think Woodson was a part of that. He wanted to keep a big with that last roster spot. Woodson also was brought in and hired by the guy Mills replaced. Both Amare and KMart were brittle and management had decided that they were only going to play 10 minutes a night every other game to save them for the playoffs.
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CrushAlot wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

it was speculated that jr offered a discount for his services if they sign his brother, although that has never been confirm.

It was basically confirmed when JR tweeted betrayal when his brother got cut after the new Prez came in. But besides that. Do you personally believe that Mills signed Smith due to being incompetent? And that Mills felt that Smith had the skills to be an NBA player? That Mills felt he was that necessary to keep over other more pressing needs? Then again if that was the case and was just a natural bball decision. It wouldn't just be up to Mills either. Woodson would have had to have a major say in that and feel the same way. Or did Mills go against Woodson's advice & against all logic, and demand that Smith be apart of the team because he was absolutely sure that he would be the missing piece to deep playoff run?

It seems to make waaaaay more sense that Smith was signed in order to get JR to sign at the discount he did. Over Mills and Woodson being that poor in judgement within player evaluations. Don't know why we can't call it like it was. Then again to call it like it was wouldn't fit a certain narrative now would it???

I don't think Woodson was a part of that. He wanted to keep a big with that last roster spot. Woodson also was brought in and hired by the guy Mills replaced. Both Amare and KMart were brittle and management had decided that they were only going to play 10 minutes a night every other game to save them for the playoffs.

I don't believe Woodson was apart of that decision either. Logically he would have preferred a proven nba player. Jr was offered 8mil to sign with the Bucks. Knicks I don't think could afford at the time to pay more than what they did due to not having his rights. He and his father used that 8mil offer as leverage since he preferred to play in NY. Made the compromise to take less money but his bro would get an NBA contract.

Knicks given their situation didn't feel they could afford to lose Jr Smith and still make a strong playoff run. He was the 2nd leading scorer at 18 pts a game after all, so they gave in.

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8/14/2017  9:09 PM
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

No, it's more about your posts are very hard to read and are all over the place I don't have the patience to try to dissect the point you're trying to make.
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newyorknewyork wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

it was speculated that jr offered a discount for his services if they sign his brother, although that has never been confirm.

It was basically confirmed when JR tweeted betrayal when his brother got cut after the new Prez came in. But besides that. Do you personally believe that Mills signed Smith due to being incompetent? And that Mills felt that Smith had the skills to be an NBA player? That Mills felt he was that necessary to keep over other more pressing needs? Then again if that was the case and was just a natural bball decision. It wouldn't just be up to Mills either. Woodson would have had to have a major say in that and feel the same way. Or did Mills go against Woodson's advice & against all logic, and demand that Smith be apart of the team because he was absolutely sure that he would be the missing piece to deep playoff run?

It seems to make waaaaay more sense that Smith was signed in order to get JR to sign at the discount he did. Over Mills and Woodson being that poor in judgement within player evaluations. Don't know why we can't call it like it was. Then again to call it like it was wouldn't fit a certain narrative now would it???

I don't think Woodson was a part of that. He wanted to keep a big with that last roster spot. Woodson also was brought in and hired by the guy Mills replaced. Both Amare and KMart were brittle and management had decided that they were only going to play 10 minutes a night every other game to save them for the playoffs.

I don't believe Woodson was apart of that decision either. Logically he would have preferred a proven nba player. Jr was offered 8mil to sign with the Bucks. Knicks I don't think could afford at the time to pay more than what they did due to not having his rights. He and his father used that 8mil offer as leverage since he preferred to play in NY. Made the compromise to take less money but his bro would get an NBA contract.

Knicks given their situation didn't feel they could afford to lose Jr Smith and still make a strong playoff run. He was the 2nd leading scorer at 18 pts a game after all, so they gave in.

There is still no legit reason why after drafting a young PG you would not sure up the depth of that position with a proven starter. Since mills has been associated with this franchise it's been one step forward 2 steps back.

I'm glad perry is on board because i think he is going to make a difference. He has done 2 things I like already, STAND FIRM ON NOT GETTING FLEECED in a melo trade and signing beasly.

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8/15/2017  12:08 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

it was speculated that jr offered a discount for his services if they sign his brother, although that has never been confirm.

It was basically confirmed when JR tweeted betrayal when his brother got cut after the new Prez came in. But besides that. Do you personally believe that Mills signed Smith due to being incompetent? And that Mills felt that Smith had the skills to be an NBA player? That Mills felt he was that necessary to keep over other more pressing needs? Then again if that was the case and was just a natural bball decision. It wouldn't just be up to Mills either. Woodson would have had to have a major say in that and feel the same way. Or did Mills go against Woodson's advice & against all logic, and demand that Smith be apart of the team because he was absolutely sure that he would be the missing piece to deep playoff run?

It seems to make waaaaay more sense that Smith was signed in order to get JR to sign at the discount he did. Over Mills and Woodson being that poor in judgement within player evaluations. Don't know why we can't call it like it was. Then again to call it like it was wouldn't fit a certain narrative now would it???

I don't think Woodson was a part of that. He wanted to keep a big with that last roster spot. Woodson also was brought in and hired by the guy Mills replaced. Both Amare and KMart were brittle and management had decided that they were only going to play 10 minutes a night every other game to save them for the playoffs.

I don't believe Woodson was apart of that decision either. Logically he would have preferred a proven nba player. Jr was offered 8mil to sign with the Bucks. Knicks I don't think could afford at the time to pay more than what they did due to not having his rights. He and his father used that 8mil offer as leverage since he preferred to play in NY. Made the compromise to take less money but his bro would get an NBA contract.

Knicks given their situation didn't feel they could afford to lose Jr Smith and still make a strong playoff run. He was the 2nd leading scorer at 18 pts a game after all, so they gave in.

There is still no legit reason why after drafting a young PG you would not sure up the depth of that position with a proven starter.

Yes there is, you just don't see it.

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8/15/2017  12:10 PM
Frankie is going to win the Rookie of the Year. The fact that we don't have a veteran starting PG in the roster will mean that he will get a lot of PT. Watch him average around 9 assists per game and defend the perimeter like a beast. I can't wait to see Baker and Frank guarding the perimeter. Gone are the days of walking into the paint against our Knickerbockers.
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8/15/2017  12:17 PM
NYKBocker wrote:Frankie is going to win the Rookie of the Year. The fact that we don't have a veteran starting PG in the roster will mean that he will get a lot of PT. Watch him average around 9 assists per game and defend the perimeter like a beast. I can't wait to see Baker and Frank guarding the perimeter. Gone are the days of walking into the paint against our Knickerbockers.

I was high on Landry Fields, I cant blame you for being enthusiastic. I Cant make any call on Frank until I see him play in the NBA. Some players in this draft have the makings of a generational talent.

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8/15/2017  12:49 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Kemet wrote:You
Welpee wrote:
Kemet wrote:After drafting Frank Nitty .. Phil/Mills first priority were to sign a starter PG from the FA market to lead the point in the backcourt .. this way Frank Nitty could play the combo-guard throughout his rookie season ....
The Knicks Ewing had the Knicks draft his Georgetown PG Michael Jackson the year before drafting Mark Jackson, Michael Jackson didn't make the team n tried again the next season when Mark Jackson beat him out in the summer league n preseason games .. Mark Jackson n Bill Cartwright took Ewing to his first NBA playoff game
Sorry but I don't have a clue what any of this means.

You may not understand bc u like guessing on the type of player Frank Nitty are or become ..
The poster use Mark Jackson as a comparison when Mark Kackson n Chris Mullen took St John to the NCAA playoffs 3 consecutive years .. in other words Mark Jackson were NBA ready having 4 yrs experience in the NCAA playoffs ..
Frank Nitty videos of playing ball in France are good but not enough proof to show how high his calibre of professional ball from the competition he faced in France .. was Frank a safe early pick? Yes. If the Knicks had a NBA veteran starter backcourt PG n SG that had a yr or 2 experience playing as a tandem to tutor the young guards in Frank Baker n THJ.
Knicks management had no intention on resigning D.Rose who one on one offense are 10 times better than THJ at the SG position.
The Baker n Rose tandem late in the season needed more time at playing together last season.
Knicks management did not do like Philly did after selecting Fultz in the draft by adding veteran backcourt starters in Bayless n Reddick for their backcourt .. nor did our management have veteran guard starters like Dallas coach Rick Carlisle has for their Draft pick DSJ having Barea Harris n Wesley to tutor Seth Curry n DSJ in the backcourt .. Look at the Sacramento Kings now after selecting Fox in the draft they signed starting guards Hill n ole man Carter to lead m tutor their backcourt guard rotation of Fox Mason III Bogdan n Heild.

Our Knicks management old/New has been doing the same old tactics they been doing since bring Mills in 1998 .. putting together a team of 1 and 2 yr contract players with no ecentive of being a future Knicks player.
Maybe KP missing the final meeting of the season had a lot to do with saying goodbye to over half his teammates again .... how many teammates did management get rid of in KP rookie season plus how many of KP teammates from his 2nd season will be on the roster to start KP 3rd season with the Knicks

10000% agree, but I always get slammed by a few poster everytime I mention how much of a idiot Mills is. I kept bring up how mills failed to get Tyson a adequate back up, but instead sign jr's god awful brother, only to watch Tyson go down for 8 weeeks.

So essentially if anything happened to frank, session and Baker are our back ups (2 players that shoot under 30% from down town, and under 40% overall.

They should have put the full court press on Rondo, who is not only a leader on the court, but a pass first pg, solid role model for frank and a very decent defender, not to mention no more triangle.

He also is the type of guard that wont just look for melo(if he's still here) every time down court

And why did Mills feel the need to sign JRs brother?

it was speculated that jr offered a discount for his services if they sign his brother, although that has never been confirm.

It was basically confirmed when JR tweeted betrayal when his brother got cut after the new Prez came in. But besides that. Do you personally believe that Mills signed Smith due to being incompetent? And that Mills felt that Smith had the skills to be an NBA player? That Mills felt he was that necessary to keep over other more pressing needs? Then again if that was the case and was just a natural bball decision. It wouldn't just be up to Mills either. Woodson would have had to have a major say in that and feel the same way. Or did Mills go against Woodson's advice & against all logic, and demand that Smith be apart of the team because he was absolutely sure that he would be the missing piece to deep playoff run?

It seems to make waaaaay more sense that Smith was signed in order to get JR to sign at the discount he did. Over Mills and Woodson being that poor in judgement within player evaluations. Don't know why we can't call it like it was. Then again to call it like it was wouldn't fit a certain narrative now would it???

I don't think Woodson was a part of that. He wanted to keep a big with that last roster spot. Woodson also was brought in and hired by the guy Mills replaced. Both Amare and KMart were brittle and management had decided that they were only going to play 10 minutes a night every other game to save them for the playoffs.

I don't believe Woodson was apart of that decision either. Logically he would have preferred a proven nba player. Jr was offered 8mil to sign with the Bucks. Knicks I don't think could afford at the time to pay more than what they did due to not having his rights. He and his father used that 8mil offer as leverage since he preferred to play in NY. Made the compromise to take less money but his bro would get an NBA contract.

Knicks given their situation didn't feel they could afford to lose Jr Smith and still make a strong playoff run. He was the 2nd leading scorer at 18 pts a game after all, so they gave in.

There is still no legit reason why after drafting a young PG you would not sure up the depth of that position with a proven starter. Since mills has been associated with this franchise it's been one step forward 2 steps back.

I'm glad perry is on board because i think he is going to make a difference. He has done 2 things I like already, STAND FIRM ON NOT GETTING FLEECED in a melo trade and signing beasly.

Seems to me they felt it was a better decision to invest in a player like Hardaway Jr. Who they feel will be apart of the Knicks for the long term. Who in 3 yrs will be 28 rather then 30+.

Kings don't have their draft pick this coming draft. They also must spend a certain amount of cap space or they will get penalized. They had every reason to throw money at any possible available veterans to try and win as many games as possible.

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8/15/2017  12:54 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Frankie is going to win the Rookie of the Year. The fact that we don't have a veteran starting PG in the roster will mean that he will get a lot of PT. Watch him average around 9 assists per game and defend the perimeter like a beast. I can't wait to see Baker and Frank guarding the perimeter. Gone are the days of walking into the paint against our Knickerbockers.

I was high on Landry Fields, I cant blame you for being enthusiastic. I Cant make any call on Frank until I see him play in the NBA. Some players in this draft have the makings of a generational talent.

I think you are using that term a little to loosely. Lebron James and KD are generational talents as is Curry and even Kawahi. They do things on the court not many players in the NBA past or present have been capable of doing. I don't see that with this draft class. This draft class I see a lot of potential all stars. Maybe a franchise player or 2.

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8/15/2017  12:55 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Frankie is going to win the Rookie of the Year. The fact that we don't have a veteran starting PG in the roster will mean that he will get a lot of PT. Watch him average around 9 assists per game and defend the perimeter like a beast. I can't wait to see Baker and Frank guarding the perimeter. Gone are the days of walking into the paint against our Knickerbockers.

I was high on Landry Fields, I cant blame you for being enthusiastic. I Cant make any call on Frank until I see him play in the NBA. Some players in this draft have the makings of a generational talent.

Generational? Hmmmmmm. I'm not quite sure about that. These kids all have a long way to go in order to show that kind of talent and ability. Nitty was a #8 pick and they weren't looking at him as a Franchise player but rather a key piece of a New Core. His skills are such that you knew he wasn't going to be one of the Ball Dominant Super Athletic PG's but instead a Hyper Versatile PG/SG who can defend 1-3 at a pretty good level. He is effective on or off the ball and has a High BBIQ as well. You can win with that kind of player!

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But Frank winning rookie of the year I don't know. Fultz and Smith are going to be given every opportunity to get buckets and as scorers will score around 18pts per game. Ball has been handed the franchise player role from the door and will be given all the mins and usage he can handle. Fox, Tatum, Monk, Issac will all come off the bench. Jackson has other talent that will be featured over him on his team. Monk though will only be asked to be instant offense off the bench though at the moment which is the perfect roll for him.

Realistic expectations would be for him to battle out Fox & Jackson for top 5 who are both in similar opportunities.

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8/15/2017  1:12 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Frankie is going to win the Rookie of the Year. The fact that we don't have a veteran starting PG in the roster will mean that he will get a lot of PT. Watch him average around 9 assists per game and defend the perimeter like a beast. I can't wait to see Baker and Frank guarding the perimeter. Gone are the days of walking into the paint against our Knickerbockers.

I was high on Landry Fields, I cant blame you for being enthusiastic. I Cant make any call on Frank until I see him play in the NBA. Some players in this draft have the makings of a generational talent.

I think you are using that term a little to loosely. Lebron James and KD are generational talents as is Curry and even Kawahi. They do things on the court not many players in the NBA past or present have been capable of doing. I don't see that with this draft class. This draft class I see a lot of potential all stars. Maybe a franchise player or 2.

"Generational talent" just means the best players of their generation. Ball, Tatum, Fultz, one or more of them might be just that. Can we really even guess right now about Frank?

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8/15/2017  1:17 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Frankie is going to win the Rookie of the Year. The fact that we don't have a veteran starting PG in the roster will mean that he will get a lot of PT. Watch him average around 9 assists per game and defend the perimeter like a beast. I can't wait to see Baker and Frank guarding the perimeter. Gone are the days of walking into the paint against our Knickerbockers.

I was high on Landry Fields, I cant blame you for being enthusiastic. I Cant make any call on Frank until I see him play in the NBA. Some players in this draft have the makings of a generational talent.

I think you are using that term a little to loosely. Lebron James and KD are generational talents as is Curry and even Kawahi. They do things on the court not many players in the NBA past or present have been capable of doing. I don't see that with this draft class. This draft class I see a lot of potential all stars. Maybe a franchise player or 2.

"Generational talent" just means the best players of their generation. Ball, Tatum, Fultz, one or more of them might be just that. Can we really even guess right now about Frank?

So by "generation" do you just mean draft class?

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GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Frankie is going to win the Rookie of the Year. The fact that we don't have a veteran starting PG in the roster will mean that he will get a lot of PT. Watch him average around 9 assists per game and defend the perimeter like a beast. I can't wait to see Baker and Frank guarding the perimeter. Gone are the days of walking into the paint against our Knickerbockers.

I was high on Landry Fields, I cant blame you for being enthusiastic. I Cant make any call on Frank until I see him play in the NBA. Some players in this draft have the makings of a generational talent.

I think you are using that term a little to loosely. Lebron James and KD are generational talents as is Curry and even Kawahi. They do things on the court not many players in the NBA past or present have been capable of doing. I don't see that with this draft class. This draft class I see a lot of potential all stars. Maybe a franchise player or 2.

"Generational talent" just means the best players of their generation. Ball, Tatum, Fultz, one or more of them might be just that. Can we really even guess right now about Frank?

No... but I view Frank as having that generational upside because of his physical skills. There are a million ? marks with Frank starting with can be a full time starting PG? I love most everything about this player however and think we took a good gamble here.
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8/15/2017  1:20 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:
NYKBocker wrote:Frankie is going to win the Rookie of the Year. The fact that we don't have a veteran starting PG in the roster will mean that he will get a lot of PT. Watch him average around 9 assists per game and defend the perimeter like a beast. I can't wait to see Baker and Frank guarding the perimeter. Gone are the days of walking into the paint against our Knickerbockers.

I was high on Landry Fields, I cant blame you for being enthusiastic. I Cant make any call on Frank until I see him play in the NBA. Some players in this draft have the makings of a generational talent.

I think you are using that term a little to loosely. Lebron James and KD are generational talents as is Curry and even Kawahi. They do things on the court not many players in the NBA past or present have been capable of doing. I don't see that with this draft class. This draft class I see a lot of potential all stars. Maybe a franchise player or 2.

"Generational talent" just means the best players of their generation. Ball, Tatum, Fultz, one or more of them might be just that. Can we really even guess right now about Frank?

So by "generation" do you just mean draft class?

No, I mean literally their generation, many drafts.

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