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GustavBahler
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8/19/2017 9:06 AM LAST EDITED: 8/19/2017 9:07 AM
smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too Frank didnt look bad or anything, but it doesn't tell me much. The slow dribbling exercises, and dribbling in place, arent things you will see in a game, for the most part. I do like how he is able to spin off the dribble. What Frank shows off the dribble in these workouts is what interests me most. Would like to see Frank use his reach into suckering defenders to overshoot him while he pulls up for a jumper. Frank may never develop that extra gear that we see in elite PGs, but he can use things like misdirection, to lose defenders, if he cant easily blow by them. Hard to say what kind of player Frank will be right now as far as his ability to get to the rim. Looking forward to finding out. |
nixluva
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8/19/2017 10:08 AM
GustavBahler wrote:smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too I think we know exactly what kind of PG Nitty is likely to be. I see a slightly more athletic version of Derek Harper. Not a blindingly quick PG but shifty enough to get the job done. |
GustavBahler
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8/19/2017 10:25 AM
nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too Derek Harper had a mean streak in him, thats part of what made him who he was as a PG. In his prime Harper averaged around 18/7 and 2 steals. We have yet to see Frank play in the NBA, against even D-league competition. And he didn't look like Derek Harper in France. You're just guessing like everyone else. |
fitzfarm
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8/19/2017 2:49 PM
GustavBahler wrote:smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too You don't need a extra gear to be elite perfect example look at the best pg in the league in Steph curry |
newyorknewyork
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8/19/2017 3:00 PM
The video in the long sleeves is a couple of weeks earlier then the short sleeve one.
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fitzfarm
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8/19/2017 3:00 PM
fitzfarm wrote:GustavBahler wrote:smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too I have watched a lot of his games in France and he is a elite sharp shooter who shoots over the top of his defender with ease. He has the craftiness and length once his defender guards him on the outside to get by his defender he's always looking for the open man but isn't afraid make the defense pay for leaving him open or not coming to help after he gets by his defender. I think his weakest part of his game is knowing when to finish at the hoop or pass but its not because he cant finish around the rim.... he can be overly unselfish,and he forces some bad passes.... all that can be expected from a young player. I haven't been this excited to see a rookie since......KP lol |
newyorknewyork
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8/19/2017 3:03 PM
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GustavBahler
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8/19/2017 4:19 PM
fitzfarm wrote:fitzfarm wrote:GustavBahler wrote:smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too Dont listen to the guy you just quoted! I agree that some PGs are elite without having elite explosiveness to the rim, buts its becoming more and more, the exception to the rule. Like I said, there are other things Frank can do to make up for that kind of speed, like misdirection, if that never becomes part of his skill set. Too early to tell IMO. Not making any bold predictions until I see him play against A level competition. The first thing rookies learn in the NBA is how much faster the game is, Europe included. Want to see how Frank adjusts. As I said, looks like he has the right attitude. |
nixluva
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8/19/2017 4:50 PM
GustavBahler wrote:nixluva wrote:GustavBahler wrote:smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too Yes, i'm guessing but it's an EDUCATED GUESS! WTF else can you have at this point? IMO Nitty did show some of the same kind of abilities Derek Harper had with a similar build and style. Big long guard that's more smooth than super quick. Not an And1 style ball handler with lots of shake but gets where he needs to get to. Good shooter and smart passer. You posted Harper's Prime stats as if you think this is not something possible for Nitty down the line. Seems as if you're intimating that Nitty doesn't have that kind of upside. What makes you feel that way? Clearly the Knicks disagree with you in that they passed over known scoring guards in the draft. Kid was playing with men at 18. What video footage of Harper at 18 do you have? I've watched a TON of footage of Nitty playing. Full game footage. What I saw was a big PG/SG who could flow between on or off ball smoothly. Not super quick but able to be effective and play smart team ball. Able to shoot over smaller PG's. VERY SIMILAR to Harper. |
HofstraBBall
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8/26/2017 12:16 PM
Sangfroid wrote:smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too Some more of Frank's workout. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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reub
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8/26/2017 1:23 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:Sangfroid wrote:smackeddog wrote:This workout video is longer and more encouraging- looks faster in it too Frank is going to be a superstar. It's all there! |
fitzfarm
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8/26/2017 1:37 PM
Man, after watching grants work out. You can see what a better prospect Frankie is at 18 compared to a 24 year old grant .
I really like the bullips comparisons, Frankie has all the tools to be a star in this league |
TheGame
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8/27/2017 4:01 AM
fitzfarm wrote:Man, after watching grants work out. You can see what a better prospect Frankie is at 18 compared to a 24 year old grant . I agree. Frank looks faster and smoother than Grant at a much younger age. Trust the Process
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GustavBahler
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8/27/2017 9:35 AM
TheGame wrote:fitzfarm wrote:Man, after watching grants work out. You can see what a better prospect Frankie is at 18 compared to a 24 year old grant . I believe Grant's biggest issue was/is confidence. He almost always looked tentative as a Knick. He might hit a couple in a row and get ****y, but that wouldn't carry over into the next game. As long as Frank stays confident, stays aggressive, he should be OK. |
Uptown
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8/27/2017 11:39 AM
https://www.facebook.com/TheKnicksDiscussion/videos/1449398351807963/?fref=mentions
Hardaway and Frank working together... |
nixluva
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8/27/2017 1:43 PM
Uptown wrote:https://www.facebook.com/TheKnicksDiscussion/videos/1449398351807963/?fref=mentions MAN. Nitty is freakin HUGE! Nice to see him and THJ working out together. |