Bonn1997 wrote:

Paris907 wrote:Wily is gonna be the real deal. I'm in minority but I see him border All Star in 3 years. Super rebounder and scoring 18-19ppg. Defensively sound as well. Poor mans Mark Gasol.

He definitely has that potential. I'm with Briggs in the sense that I think right now Willy has a more positive impact on the game. KP is still an important player with a positive impact but Willy's already very good at what he specializes at and doesn't shoot some of the bad shots KP does. If Willy was on another team, I wouldn't trade KP to get him though.
But Willy is a legit all NBA Rookie team, which makes him like a top 5 lottery pick or at least playing at the level of a top 5 player from the draft. There's nothing wrong with having a more favorable view right now him than KP. He's earned it.

KP has some bad habits on offense. He needs to be the Knicks primary post threat. Its insane to have a player that is 7'3" spending the time he does on the perimeter. Its a great skill to have, but without the post game to go with it, he will be stuck in inefficiency. Look at Towns the guy has the inside and outside game, thats a unicorn. KP should be shooting at 50% anything less is Demarcus COusins esque

Bonn1997 wrote:

Paris907 wrote:Wily is gonna be the real deal. I'm in minority but I see him border All Star in 3 years. Super rebounder and scoring 18-19ppg. Defensively sound as well. Poor mans Mark Gasol.

He definitely has that potential. I'm with Briggs in the sense that I think right now Willy has a more positive impact on the game. KP is still an important player with a positive impact but Willy's already very good at what he specializes at and doesn't shoot some of the bad shots KP does. If Willy was on another team, I wouldn't trade KP to get him though.
But Willy is a legit all NBA Rookie team, which makes him like a top 5 lottery pick or at least playing at the level of a top 5 player from the draft. There's nothing wrong with having a more favorable view right now him than KP. He's earned it.

Hey maybe KP can stop being a free lancer and start playing smarter ball. Use the pass rebound better have more focus on D take better shots. Its not a bad problem to have with KP and Willy although Im not sure they play great together. Im sure we can mitigate that issue by staggering their playing time.

Knickoftime wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:There's nothing wrong with having a more favorable view right now him than KP. He's earned it.

Nope, it's just utterly pointless, since they're both Knicks.

Bonn1997 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:This is turning into a Porzingis thread, as was the intent of the thread.

The theme here is he's played 2 seasons and isn't an unmitigated superstar yet, and some fans are very, very disappointed.

Or is the theme that some people are just overly sensitive and too concerned with protecting KP? No one has said anything brutal or even seriously negative.

"Protecting" him from what?

He's a second year player. May never get any better. May not be state of the art for 3-4 more years.

And I don't care which of them turn out better. I hope both of them turn out good.

reub wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:KP is a two way player, Willy isnt. Until he is, Porzingis has more potential. Willy definitely has an edge on post play. He is a lot more polished than I thought he would be.

Willy's WS/48 was .123, much better than average....and as a rookie. And his defense worked out to be better than his offense surprisingly and better than KP's. KP hasn't had a WS48 that high in his two years in the league.

In this instance I will take eye test over the numbers. Watched some very porous defense for most of the season. Willy got better as the season went on, but still has a long way to go.

reub wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

reub wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:KP is a two way player, Willy isnt. Until he is, Porzingis has more potential. Willy definitely has an edge on post play. He is a lot more polished than I thought he would be.

Willy's WS/48 was .123, much better than average....and as a rookie. And his defense worked out to be better than his offense surprisingly and better than KP's. KP hasn't had a WS48 that high in his two years in the league.

In this instance I will take eye test over the numbers. Watched some very porous defense for most of the season. Willy got better as the season went on, but still has a long way to go.

So does KP.

Long way? No. Room for improvement? Definitely.

HofstraBBall wrote:Both KP and Willy are very good prospects. They are both very good players. Isn't that enough for Knick fans? Smh. But if we are talkimg about it....Don't agree Willy has better "Potential". KP has more tools. That in itself makes him the one with higher potential.