fwk00 wrote:

Jrshoops wrote:This Get Kyrie Irving at all costs talk is ridiculous.

Youth - Check
Talented - Check
Defense - No

We finally have our first round picks again, and we need to rebuild through the draft and developing our own prospects first! Kyrie doesn't get us to a championship with KP and Hardaway! We need to see what we have with Ntilikina first, he has the ability with his desire and wingspan to be a GREAT defender and at 18, playing against professional players, had a well rounded offensive game.

We don't even know if KP can stay healthy for an entire season. We need more picks, not less! We have no ****in patience to ever do it the right way in ANY sport in New York, that's why we win way less than we should in all NY sports.

We had this great press conference with a great mantra of building and changing the culture. Kyrie will still only be 27 when his deal is up. If we show we are a player away then that is the time to get him and trade some picks.

Don't do it Knicks! Build from the bottom and finally change our culture. Long term success not a sugar rush!

As I said when Phil was relieved of his contract, "Welcome to hell."

So Phil went to Hell? Thats a bit rough.

HofstraBBall wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

Jrshoops wrote:This Get Kyrie Irving at all costs talk is ridiculous.

Youth - Check
Talented - Check
Defense - No

We finally have our first round picks again, and we need to rebuild through the draft and developing our own prospects first! Kyrie doesn't get us to a championship with KP and Hardaway! We need to see what we have with Ntilikina first, he has the ability with his desire and wingspan to be a GREAT defender and at 18, playing against professional players, had a well rounded offensive game.

We don't even know if KP can stay healthy for an entire season. We need more picks, not less! We have no ****in patience to ever do it the right way in ANY sport in New York, that's why we win way less than we should in all NY sports.

We had this great press conference with a great mantra of building and changing the culture. Kyrie will still only be 27 when his deal is up. If we show we are a player away then that is the time to get him and trade some picks.

Don't do it Knicks! Build from the bottom and finally change our culture. Long term success not a sugar rush!

As I said when Phil was relieved of his contract, "Welcome to hell."

So Phil went to Hell? Thats a bit rough.

Jrshoops wrote:

TPercy wrote:How does kyrie at the young age of 25 not long term sucess

Kyrie is great, but his teams sucked before LeBron ran the ship. Until proven otherwise, or until I know I have a good team with or without Kyrie, I'm not gonna trade away the future to "see" if Kyrie is now a proven leader of men, yet alone a young basketball team. He could be just another Marbury without LeBron.

And, then the Knicks suck or are just an average team the next two years with Kyrie. Will Kyrie, after being used to success and winning in Cleveland, blame himself or his teammates and sign elsewhere to "go to a winner".

The time for a team to pickup a player like Kyrie and give up valuable picks is when they are closer than the Knicks are to being good.

So kyrie hasn't grown and is still the same player before Lebron? Kyrie wouldn't add significant wins to this team?

TPercy wrote:

Jrshoops wrote:

TPercy wrote:How does kyrie at the young age of 25 not long term sucess

Kyrie is great, but his teams sucked before LeBron ran the ship. Until proven otherwise, or until I know I have a good team with or without Kyrie, I'm not gonna trade away the future to "see" if Kyrie is now a proven leader of men, yet alone a young basketball team. He could be just another Marbury without LeBron.

And, then the Knicks suck or are just an average team the next two years with Kyrie. Will Kyrie, after being used to success and winning in Cleveland, blame himself or his teammates and sign elsewhere to "go to a winner".

The time for a team to pickup a player like Kyrie and give up valuable picks is when they are closer than the Knicks are to being good.

So kyrie hasn't grown and is still the same player before Lebron? Kyrie wouldn't add significant wins to this team?

Welpee wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Welpee wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

Jrshoops wrote:This Get Kyrie Irving at all costs talk is ridiculous.

Youth - Check
Talented - Check
Defense - No

We finally have our first round picks again, and we need to rebuild through the draft and developing our own prospects first! Kyrie doesn't get us to a championship with KP and Hardaway! We need to see what we have with Ntilikina first, he has the ability with his desire and wingspan to be a GREAT defender and at 18, playing against professional players, had a well rounded offensive game.

We don't even know if KP can stay healthy for an entire season. We need more picks, not less! We have no ****in patience to ever do it the right way in ANY sport in New York, that's why we win way less than we should in all NY sports.

We had this great press conference with a great mantra of building and changing the culture. Kyrie will still only be 27 when his deal is up. If we show we are a player away then that is the time to get him and trade some picks.

Don't do it Knicks! Build from the bottom and finally change our culture. Long term success not a sugar rush!

As I said when Phil was relieved of his contract, "Welcome to hell."

Yeah, because it was heaven when Phil was here.

Philosophy is important when rebuilding following the path and sticking to it.

Yeah, stick to a philosophy that wasn't working and keep us sinking deeper into the hole we were
in.

What are you talking about. Cut the crap you know And I know it's important for any franchise to build up their youth. Trading away future assets for immediate gratification is absolutely the reason we are in the reason for where we are. We did it for a Melo trade and look what has been accomplished. You do the same for Kyrie and you just repeated the same mistake. Learn from mistakes.

Like I said I'll take Kyrie but only for Melo and O'Quin or Lee

Vmart wrote:

Welpee wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Welpee wrote:

fwk00 wrote:

Jrshoops wrote:This Get Kyrie Irving at all costs talk is ridiculous.

Youth - Check
Talented - Check
Defense - No

We finally have our first round picks again, and we need to rebuild through the draft and developing our own prospects first! Kyrie doesn't get us to a championship with KP and Hardaway! We need to see what we have with Ntilikina first, he has the ability with his desire and wingspan to be a GREAT defender and at 18, playing against professional players, had a well rounded offensive game.

We don't even know if KP can stay healthy for an entire season. We need more picks, not less! We have no ****in patience to ever do it the right way in ANY sport in New York, that's why we win way less than we should in all NY sports.

We had this great press conference with a great mantra of building and changing the culture. Kyrie will still only be 27 when his deal is up. If we show we are a player away then that is the time to get him and trade some picks.

Don't do it Knicks! Build from the bottom and finally change our culture. Long term success not a sugar rush!

As I said when Phil was relieved of his contract, "Welcome to hell."

Yeah, because it was heaven when Phil was here.

Philosophy is important when rebuilding following the path and sticking to it.

Yeah, stick to a philosophy that wasn't working and keep us sinking deeper into the hole we were
in.

What are you talking about. Cut the crap you know And I know it's important for any franchise to build up their youth. Trading away future assets for immediate gratification is absolutely the reason we are in the reason for where we are. We did it for a Melo trade and look what has been accomplished. You do the same for Kyrie and you just repeated the same mistake. Learn from mistakes.

Like I said I'll take Kyrie but only for Melo and O'Quin or Lee

And can we cut the crap with these valuable "assets" we gave up for Melo. The two picks would've been nice but wouldn't have yielded a franchise player where we picked. And Gallo, W. Chandler, Mozgov and Felton have played in a grand total of zero all-star games collectively since being traded.

Jrshoops wrote:

TPercy wrote:How does kyrie at the young age of 25 not long term sucess

Kyrie is great, but his teams sucked before LeBron ran the ship. Until proven otherwise, or until I know I have a good team with or without Kyrie, I'm not gonna trade away the future to "see" if Kyrie is now a proven leader of men, yet alone a young basketball team. He could be just another Marbury without LeBron.

And, then the Knicks suck or are just an average team the next two years with Kyrie. Will Kyrie, after being used to success and winning in Cleveland, blame himself or his teammates and sign elsewhere to "go to a winner".

The time for a team to pickup a player like Kyrie and give up valuable picks is when they are closer than the Knicks are to being good.