fitzfarm wrote:Knight is a talent and we need talent, he also had his best years with horny. he can play the one or the two. if we can get him for Lee strait up how could we say no? he is young, a very talented scorer needs to work on defense but the kid scores buckets.

I think he could really help solidify our second unit.

now can we some how trade lee and lance for Knight and TJ warren

warren is a free agent after this year and i think he wants to start not be behind chriss phx will prob let him walk

KP,oquin
Melo,Willy
warren,Kuz
timmy,dotson,baker
frank,knight,baker

If Courtney Lee took 18 shots a game instead of 9, he'd be the far superior scorer.

Knight's stand out talent is finding shots for himself, he is below average in making them.

http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinger/statistics/_/position/pg/sort/trueShootingPct/page/2

If the priority is to play someone who find himself shots but convert them poorly, he's your guy.

Plus, if our aim is to get younger and build via that, how does it make any sense to have Knight and Lee in the backcourt?Where does Tim Jr play? where are the minutes for our rookies and Ron Baker?

Career averages of 15 points, 4 assists and 35% three point shooting.
Knows Hornachek's offense.

I don't see any issue with taking him on in a Melo trade.

He makes between 13-15 million the next three years.

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Reports have surfaced that the Knicks recently discussed a trade with Phoenix and Brandon Knight is on the trading block. Although I would want Bledsoe, I don't think the Suns would ever trade him.

This trade actually helps both teams:

1) Knight is 25 and fits into the current youth movement we are having

2) Knight can mentor Frank as a young vet and ease him into the starting gig--a need we have

3) Knight and Lee make exactly the same money

4) Suns have a logjam at pg and want to unload him. They could use a vet in Lee.

5) Although Knight had a down season last year, he is still young and talented and had his best years under Horny where he averaged 18 ppg.

This is the type of trade that makes sense for both teams.

They'd have to give us a asset to take on Knight's contract and he's not really a PG and more of a SG. I'd actually be alright taking him on if we got something with him for taking on his contract as long as JH gives his approval since he's coached him so he knows if he can be a positive for us.

Baker and Frank can play both guard positions...Dotson can play at the 2, and Hardaway can play at SG or SF, especially if Anthony is traded. Seems to give us some positional flexibility.

BRIGGS wrote:Why does anyone have to mentor Frank??
Did anyone mentor Kobe Bryant or KG?

His body isn't ready for heavy minutes over the long grueling NBA season and how silly is it to compare Frank to an all time great? Frank also comes from a different culture, will have to adjust to the US, the NBA and NYC. Not everyone can handle that transition like KP for example.

Frank should be targeted for 20-25 mins per night...sometimes playing next to the other PG and he should keep building the body like KP is having to do.

LivingLegend wrote:Read a good article on Knight the other day......it basically showed that he was a very good & respected young PG prior to the PHX trade.

Prior to PHX he basically played PG +90% of the time and flourished.

When he was traded to PHX he was forced to share the ball with the likes of Bledsoe/Dragic and his time at PG fell closer to the 50% level with the rest of his time moved to off the ball (SG) and he has NOT been the same since.

He could be a player that needs to know he is the guy (the PG)....he may lose his confidence off the ball and at the same time not feel like a lead guard when he's really not the lead guard. He may also shoot better off the dribble and suffer catching/shooting off the ball.

I have not watched himmuch at all the past few years but at 25 I think he had a great defensive reputation before PHX....I'd rather take an asset to gamble on a 25 year old Knight vs lose an asset for in trading for a 29 year old, often injured Bledsoe.

Maybe in NY Horny puts the ball in his hands...goes uptempo and some of this guys game comes back.

Yes....

Before he went to Phoenix guys here were raving about him. He was playing at an all star level for the Bucks, then they traded him. Weird...

Knight and Tim Hardaway Jr as the starters every night is legit. Frenchy and Dotson growing off the bench is legit too. Baker in a 3rd string role is legit too. Young solid back court. That's a nice rebuild.

Bonn1997 wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:Read a good article on Knight the other day......it basically showed that he was a very good & respected young PG prior to the PHX trade.

Prior to PHX he basically played PG +90% of the time and flourished.

When he was traded to PHX he was forced to share the ball with the likes of Bledsoe/Dragic and his time at PG fell closer to the 50% level with the rest of his time moved to off the ball (SG) and he has NOT been the same since.

He could be a player that needs to know he is the guy (the PG)....he may lose his confidence off the ball and at the same time not feel like a lead guard when he's really not the lead guard. He may also shoot better off the dribble and suffer catching/shooting off the ball.

I have not watched himmuch at all the past few years but at 25 I think he had a great defensive reputation before PHX....I'd rather take an asset to gamble on a 25 year old Knight vs lose an asset for in trading for a 29 year old, often injured Bledsoe.

Maybe in NY Horny puts the ball in his hands...goes uptempo and some of this guys game comes back.

Flourished? He's been really bad every year except 2014-15. You want to play him at PG? He's probably the worst passing PG in the league. He doesn't do enough things well to make up for that. I assume if the Knicks were willing to take back Knight, a deal would be done by now. At least, I'm hoping that's the case.