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newyorknewyork wrote:I still don't see what interest Portland would have in the trade unless they are dumping Leonards contract? They do need a stretch 4 and Anderson fits the bill. They just traded away Crabbe in order to save money. Are they now willing to add that money back by taking on Anderson?

Do they value Anderson enough to be willing to move Harkless, Aminu or Davis & Vonleh. That's the only deal the Knicks would probably accept back. I don't see how Anderson would be worth that.

I saw on twitter that if they move Leonard and take on Anderson they save another 6 mil this year on their cap. I am not sure what it would mean for the other two years.

Leonard and Anderson have the same years. Portland wants to move Harkless and Leonard which equates to the 60mil over 3 yrs which matches Anderson's contract. They basically want to use Harkless and this deal to upgrade Leonard from being a waste on their roster to a productive player/ stetch 4 in Anderson. As well as clean up a spot for the tons of other young big men they have on their roster. But the Knicks haven't shown a willingness to take on Leonard. Knicks would most likely prefer Aminu or Davis who have 1-2 yrs left on their deals and are young players who would contribute. But there is no reason for Portland to make that deal and be stuck with Anderson and Leonard. They can get more than Anderson with a package of Harkless, Aminu, Vonleh which is what the Knicks would want.

Here's the tweet.

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So again, Houston adds nothing to the deal except a bad contract and they get the best player? Never going to happen

Houston would be giving up a future draft pick or 2 to the Knicks as well. Knicks should ask for 2 since teams want 2 picks for Anderson alone. Without even them getting back Melo. Anderson would be forwarded to the Blazers.
The problem is that Portland wants to package Harkless & Leonard and the Knicks don't want to take Leonard back.

The same exact issues that have plagued the trade going on weeks now.

Knicks are hopefully trying to dump Noah as part of any deal. But then again, that would kill any deal. As no one is dumb enough to take that contract. Nets?

can't imagine they have the space any more.

Knicks don't have to take Leonard; Houston does, and the trade works via ESPN trade checker.

Houston receives : Melo; Leonard; O. Jaramaz
Knicks receive: Harkless; Gordon; Onuaku
Portland receives: Anderson; Kuzminskis; I. Taylor + 1st from Houston

Interesting trade, especially if Knicks can move Gordon again later on, really no need for him on the current roster.

Yes, perhaps trade CLee for a veteren PG. maybe Brandon Knight if he is healthy? Then our team is more evenly balanced. There is a hold on trading players received in a multi-player trade.

Brandon Knight tore his ACL a day ago and seems like to be out for a season

martin wrote:

Markji wrote:

martin wrote:

Markji wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:tttt

HofstraBBall wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Rookie wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:I still don't see what interest Portland would have in the trade unless they are dumping Leonards contract? They do need a stretch 4 and Anderson fits the bill. They just traded away Crabbe in order to save money. Are they now willing to add that money back by taking on Anderson?

Do they value Anderson enough to be willing to move Harkless, Aminu or Davis & Vonleh. That's the only deal the Knicks would probably accept back. I don't see how Anderson would be worth that.

I saw on twitter that if they move Leonard and take on Anderson they save another 6 mil this year on their cap. I am not sure what it would mean for the other two years.

Leonard and Anderson have the same years. Portland wants to move Harkless and Leonard which equates to the 60mil over 3 yrs which matches Anderson's contract. They basically want to use Harkless and this deal to upgrade Leonard from being a waste on their roster to a productive player/ stetch 4 in Anderson. As well as clean up a spot for the tons of other young big men they have on their roster. But the Knicks haven't shown a willingness to take on Leonard. Knicks would most likely prefer Aminu or Davis who have 1-2 yrs left on their deals and are young players who would contribute. But there is no reason for Portland to make that deal and be stuck with Anderson and Leonard. They can get more than Anderson with a package of Harkless, Aminu, Vonleh which is what the Knicks would want.

Here's the tweet.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/JADubin5/status/889918678376075264/actions

So again, Houston adds nothing to the deal except a bad contract and they get the best player? Never going to happen

Houston would be giving up a future draft pick or 2 to the Knicks as well. Knicks should ask for 2 since teams want 2 picks for Anderson alone. Without even them getting back Melo. Anderson would be forwarded to the Blazers.
The problem is that Portland wants to package Harkless & Leonard and the Knicks don't want to take Leonard back.

The same exact issues that have plagued the trade going on weeks now.

Knicks are hopefully trying to dump Noah as part of any deal. But then again, that would kill any deal. As no one is dumb enough to take that contract. Nets?

can't imagine they have the space any more.

Knicks don't have to take Leonard; Houston does, and the trade works via ESPN trade checker.

Houston receives : Melo; Leonard; O. Jaramaz
Knicks receive: Harkless; Gordon; Onuaku
Portland receives: Anderson; Kuzminskis; I. Taylor + 1st from Houston

Interesting trade, especially if Knicks can move Gordon again later on, really no need for him on the current roster.

Yes, perhaps trade CLee for a veteren PG. maybe Brandon Knight if he is healthy? Then our team is more evenly balanced. There is a hold on trading players received in a multi-player trade.

Brandon Knight tore his ACL a day ago and seems like to be out for a season

Gudris wrote:Another disappointing day, when this will be done finally

December?

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HofstraBBall wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Rookie wrote:

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newyorknewyork wrote:

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newyorknewyork wrote:I still don't see what interest Portland would have in the trade unless they are dumping Leonards contract? They do need a stretch 4 and Anderson fits the bill. They just traded away Crabbe in order to save money. Are they now willing to add that money back by taking on Anderson?

Do they value Anderson enough to be willing to move Harkless, Aminu or Davis & Vonleh. That's the only deal the Knicks would probably accept back. I don't see how Anderson would be worth that.

I saw on twitter that if they move Leonard and take on Anderson they save another 6 mil this year on their cap. I am not sure what it would mean for the other two years.

Leonard and Anderson have the same years. Portland wants to move Harkless and Leonard which equates to the 60mil over 3 yrs which matches Anderson's contract. They basically want to use Harkless and this deal to upgrade Leonard from being a waste on their roster to a productive player/ stetch 4 in Anderson. As well as clean up a spot for the tons of other young big men they have on their roster. But the Knicks haven't shown a willingness to take on Leonard. Knicks would most likely prefer Aminu or Davis who have 1-2 yrs left on their deals and are young players who would contribute. But there is no reason for Portland to make that deal and be stuck with Anderson and Leonard. They can get more than Anderson with a package of Harkless, Aminu, Vonleh which is what the Knicks would want.

Here's the tweet.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://www.twitter.com/JADubin5/status/889918678376075264/actions

So again, Houston adds nothing to the deal except a bad contract and they get the best player? Never going to happen

Houston would be giving up a future draft pick or 2 to the Knicks as well. Knicks should ask for 2 since teams want 2 picks for Anderson alone. Without even them getting back Melo. Anderson would be forwarded to the Blazers.
The problem is that Portland wants to package Harkless & Leonard and the Knicks don't want to take Leonard back.

The same exact issues that have plagued the trade going on weeks now.

Knicks are hopefully trying to dump Noah as part of any deal. But then again, that would kill any deal. As no one is dumb enough to take that contract. Nets?

can't imagine they have the space any more.

Knicks don't have to take Leonard; Houston does, and the trade works via ESPN trade checker.

Houston receives : Melo; Leonard; O. Jaramaz
Knicks receive: Harkless; Gordon; Onuaku
Portland receives: Anderson; Kuzminskis; I. Taylor + 1st from Houston

interesting. Does the trade work if the Knicks get that pick? I ask because it seems weird that Portland gets to salary dump Leonard and they get a pick back

I can see MDA and company being interested in this arrangement. With Melo they get a facsimile of Anderson (to some degree) in Leonard. And with Melo playing, Anderson would have received less shots and minutes -- which better suits Leonard

Yes the trade works if we re-arrange the picks. But if the Knicks are getting Gordon from Houston as well as Harkless, I'm not sure Houston would give us that pick. And also Onuaku from Portland, then I think Portland will want something more to join in this trade as a faciliator. Those details of picks can be worked out; we can perhaps receive a 2nd round pick; its the players and matching salaries that are pretty tough to make meet the requirements of a trade. This will work and we get good assets in return for Melo. And I think it benefits all of the teams involved.

Leonard is dead weight to them imo. They were interested in Anderson because they could package Harkless and Leonard for him and dump Leonards contract. Knicks are still giving up Carmelo Anthony. Portland shouldn't receive a pick for trading away Harkless and Leonard while also receiving Kuz. Knicks should def get the pick.

Good deal other then that. Knicks could look to forward Gordan to a contender for other assets.

I'm fine with us getting the pick but by also getting Gordon and Houston taking Leonard, I'm not sure Houston gives that to us. If we can get it, great. This could test Perry and see if he is a strong negotiator.

Houston would be swapping Gordan with Melo and Anderson with Leonard pretty much. So it would come down to how highly they think of Melo compared to Gordan. Leonard imo would rejuvenate his career with the rockets. Paul, Harden are more elite passers then Lillard and CJ. And he would fill that 3pt specialist role that Anderson held but at 9mil cheaper. He would be easier to move when he has 2 yrs left instead of 3 as well. He can also rebound pretty well. Melo opts out they free up a ton of money as well from moving Gordan and swapping Anderson with Leonard.

With that said a pick wouldn't even be necessary from Houston of we could get 1 for Gordan in a 4 team or a follow up move.

It gives us a logjam at SG and a bit light at SF but we could go small at times and play 2 SG and a PG. The SG are THJr; Eric Gordon; CLee; and maybe Dotson if he keeps playing as well as he did in SummerLeague. THJr is 6'6" 205lbs, so big enough to play SF in a smaller, quick line-up. Damyean Dotson is 6'5" 210 lbs and a very good rebounder so he might also be able to play SF if needed.

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Carmelo Anthony has spoken with new Knicks GM Scott Perry

Carmelo Anthony has not met with the Knicks this summer, and he’s “at peace” with that. Efforts to trade him are at a standstill because he will only waive his no-trade clause to go to Houston, and they have not been able to put together a deal — likely involving at least three teams — that works for all sides.

However, the lines of communication between Anthony and the Knicks are not completely closed — he has texted with new GM Scott Perry.

It’s a start. Here is what Anthony said while in Baltimore, via Michael Lee of Yahoo Sports.

Anthony hasn’t met with Knicks officials but he has spoken with recently hired general manager Scott Perry, a respected executive credited with providing a few months of sane stability in Sacramento who also previously worked in Orlando and Detroit. “I’ve talked to him,’’ Anthony said. “We’ve communicated. I’ve known Scott for maybe 10 years now. I’ve known him for a while back in the Detroit days, the draft, 2003, all that. And things like that. I’m pretty sure I’ll get to [formally meet with] him.”

What Perry brings to the table as a GM is a wealth of relationships — that’s a big part of the game in being a strong front office. Talent evaluation obviously matters a lot also (Perry’s summer in Sacramento helped show he has skill in that area, too), but Perry is liked and respected by players and other people in front offices — they take his call. They talk.

Perry can’t mend the relationship between the Knicks and Anthony completely, Phil Jackson made sure that bridge was well burned. Both sides are ready to move on. But what Perry can do is keep the lines of communication open through the process.

That’s something.

HofstraBBall wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:For all the talk that Melo would be in great shape
He looks the same

Looks in better shape than KP.

He even does a great job practicing holding the ball too long.

HofstraBBall wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:For all the talk that Melo would be in great shape
He looks the same

Looks in better shape than KP.

CGI

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I went to this the other day (I live 2 miles from coppin state) saw melo (was introduce by my brother who did some things with melo during the riots)I gave him dap.

I told him straight up, your not going know where dude, the city still has loves for you, At first he thought I was talking about Baltimore, then I flip my knicks hat around, and we both busted out laughing...He just we'll see we'll see.. He's a was real cool, very laid back dude, (that probably explains his defense intensity) I think he's definitely open to coming back.

I'm not saying this is good or bad, I'm just not for no BS trade to get rid of him..FCK THAT