Keep in mind this is the guy that forced a trade to NY and in the process the Knicks gave up all their valuable assets. Now in his exit he will not drop his NTC, instead if we want to lose him he will make us buy him out, ensuring we get no assets back for him.

If this is the loyalty he is showing NY, I'll take snake behavior towards Denver any day. At least he left them with assets and got them a WCF trip.

He knows he was a goner since the end of the season and every move he's made has pushed towards buy-out territory.

"I still want to be in NY" - translation - "I'm not waiving my NTC even though we are committed to losing, I'm not interested in playing the game plan & I've had the teams president publicly say I don't fit anymore"

Is anyone naive enough to think Melo really likes NY this much? If so, why did he almost sign with the Bulls in FA?

This ***hole should get boo'd out of MSG next time he's there.

Melo doesn't bleed blue and orange. He's needs some more green for his new stripper baby momma.

Sinix wrote:Dude is all about his money and has been playing a PR game to snag more from NY.

Keep in mind this is the guy that forced a trade to NY and in the process the Knicks gave up all their valuable assets. Now in his exit he will not drop his NTC, instead if we want to lose him he will make us buy him out, ensuring we get no assets back for him.

If this is the loyalty he is showing NY, I'll take snake behavior towards Denver any day. At least he left them with assets and got them a WCF trip.

He knows he was a goner since the end of the season and every move he's made has pushed towards buy-out territory.

"I still want to be in NY" - translation - "I'm not waiving my NTC even though we are committed to losing, I'm not interested in playing the game plan & I've had the teams president publicly say I don't fit anymore"

Is anyone naive enough to think Melo really likes NY this much? If so, why did he almost sign with the Bulls in FA?

This ***hole should get boo'd out of MSG next time he's there.

Melo doesn't bleed blue and orange. He's needs some more green for his new stripper baby momma.

nixluva wrote:WHOA! This was rough. I don't know if Melo wants to leave. I know he LOVES it here in NY and I think he's too comfortable. Still if he was to return to how he played as DadMelo the previous year then I'd have no problem at all with Melo staying. It's really just about him BUYING IN as Phil has been asking. That's it.

Vmart wrote:If he is angling for it don't give it.

I want him to rot on the bench.

I used to be a fan of his but these past years it's pretty clear he's a very selfish guy. It shows in his play style and personal behavior.

We are a **** organization. We lock into bad contracts and give away draft picks. No other organization does stuff like this aside from the NETs.

Why not angle for a buy out at this point. Phil hasn't gotten him the help he needs, he has traded away talent and received little in return. He has few teams he wants to play for, but they are all caped out and don't have the assets, so why not force your way into a buy out. The GM is forcing him into a trade

Knickoftime wrote:
He can't get more money from NY.

He gets more money as a result of NY buying him out. NY pays him his contract then some other team gives him a contract on top of the Knicks. He's a greedy MFer.

No fan bleeds their team's colors. I've been on enough sports messages boards for enough teams for enough years to know fans bleed their own colors.

It's all about what they think and believe and what they want.

Nobody wants anything for a greater good. They want it for themselves.

Some people align a greater good with what they want for themselves. Look at Tim Duncan's career.

The part I fault Melo for here then is his constant talking about how NY first he is and how much he wants to be here because he's a NYer. Another lie like when he said he was going to play within the triangle? Or how he posts workout videos every summer teasing that he won't be a fat fk during the season?

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:WHOA! This was rough. I don't know if Melo wants to leave. I know he LOVES it here in NY and I think he's too comfortable. Still if he was to return to how he played as DadMelo the previous year then I'd have no problem at all with Melo staying. It's really just about him BUYING IN as Phil has been asking. That's it.

I think he would return to DadMelo if Rose is let go. There was an article awhile back about how Rose's presence killed DadMelo. Unfortunately, exit meetings are very important with the Pres. Phil was impressed with Rose's exit meeting and if you believe Charlie Rosen, Phil will try to bring Rose back.

The only thing I could see is something personal come from him. Like admitting that while going through a terrible year on the domestic front it was tough to be ready and focused night after night despite being in good physical shape. That I could see... Melo then says "regardless of team direction I am here to play hard do what I can for the NY Knicks..."

something like that *might* float. But man... when folks talk about Melo and the major down tick his game took last year the excuses are impressive reaches

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:WHOA! This was rough. I don't know if Melo wants to leave. I know he LOVES it here in NY and I think he's too comfortable. Still if he was to return to how he played as DadMelo the previous year then I'd have no problem at all with Melo staying. It's really just about him BUYING IN as Phil has been asking. That's it.

I think he would return to DadMelo if Rose is let go. There was an article awhile back about how Rose's presence killed DadMelo. Unfortunately, exit meetings are very important with the Pres. Phil was impressed with Rose's exit meeting and if you believe Charlie Rosen, Phil will try to bring Rose back.

think about it... imagine Melo explaining that. How would he? "With Derrick gone I can now go back to playing fundamentally sound basketball...." that's nuts.

The only thing I could see is something personal come from him. Like admitting that while going through a terrible year on the domestic front it was tough to be ready and focused night after night despite being in good physical shape. That I could see... Melo then says "regardless of team direction I am here to play hard do what I can for the NY Knicks..."

something like that *might* float. But man... when folks talk about Melo and the major down tick his game took last year the excuses are impressive reaches

When you look back at Melos career as a whole it really isn't that impressive compared to other HOFers. There's countless amounts of guys who have had many all star appearances and only 1 WCF appearance. It's not that special in the grand scheme of the NBA. Yet Melo has had so many excuses, large contracts and teams catered to him over the years. Not just 1 or 2 years. Melo's had over a decade of teams built for him.

What other player, in the history of the NBA, has wielded so much power to kick coaches and players off the team yet only made it to a conference finals once and lost?

Sinix wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:WHOA! This was rough. I don't know if Melo wants to leave. I know he LOVES it here in NY and I think he's too comfortable. Still if he was to return to how he played as DadMelo the previous year then I'd have no problem at all with Melo staying. It's really just about him BUYING IN as Phil has been asking. That's it.

I think he would return to DadMelo if Rose is let go. There was an article awhile back about how Rose's presence killed DadMelo. Unfortunately, exit meetings are very important with the Pres. Phil was impressed with Rose's exit meeting and if you believe Charlie Rosen, Phil will try to bring Rose back.

think about it... imagine Melo explaining that. How would he? "With Derrick gone I can now go back to playing fundamentally sound basketball...." that's nuts.

The only thing I could see is something personal come from him. Like admitting that while going through a terrible year on the domestic front it was tough to be ready and focused night after night despite being in good physical shape. That I could see... Melo then says "regardless of team direction I am here to play hard do what I can for the NY Knicks..."

something like that *might* float. But man... when folks talk about Melo and the major down tick his game took last year the excuses are impressive reaches

When you look back at Melos career as a whole it really isn't that impressive compared to other HOFers. There's countless amounts of guys who have had many all star appearances and only 1 WCF appearance. It's not that special in the grand scheme of the NBA. Yet Melo has had so many excuses, large contracts and teams catered to him over the years. Not just 1 or 2 years. Melo's had over a decade of teams built for him.

What other player, in the history of the NBA, has wielded so much power to kick coaches and players off the team yet only made it to a conference finals once and lost?

Sinix wrote:

fishmike wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

nixluva wrote:WHOA! This was rough. I don't know if Melo wants to leave. I know he LOVES it here in NY and I think he's too comfortable. Still if he was to return to how he played as DadMelo the previous year then I'd have no problem at all with Melo staying. It's really just about him BUYING IN as Phil has been asking. That's it.

I think he would return to DadMelo if Rose is let go. There was an article awhile back about how Rose's presence killed DadMelo. Unfortunately, exit meetings are very important with the Pres. Phil was impressed with Rose's exit meeting and if you believe Charlie Rosen, Phil will try to bring Rose back.

think about it... imagine Melo explaining that. How would he? "With Derrick gone I can now go back to playing fundamentally sound basketball...." that's nuts.

The only thing I could see is something personal come from him. Like admitting that while going through a terrible year on the domestic front it was tough to be ready and focused night after night despite being in good physical shape. That I could see... Melo then says "regardless of team direction I am here to play hard do what I can for the NY Knicks..."

something like that *might* float. But man... when folks talk about Melo and the major down tick his game took last year the excuses are impressive reaches

When you look back at Melos career as a whole it really isn't that impressive compared to other HOFers. There's countless amounts of guys who have had many all star appearances and only 1 WCF appearance. It's not that special in the grand scheme of the NBA. Yet Melo has had so many excuses, large contracts and teams catered to him over the years. Not just 1 or 2 years. Melo's had over a decade of teams built for him.

What other player, in the history of the NBA, has wielded so much power to kick coaches and players off the team yet only made it to a conference finals once and lost?

What coach did melo get fired?

George karl has been fired from every coaching job he's had without melo, phil never gave woodson a shot, and melo had zero to do with fisher getting wack, MDA needs a PG, not a ball dominating sf.. he's a 10x all star..

Im not a melo fan at all, but your arguments trying to discredit his career are weak as hell, and screams of just hate, with no merit.

you can't come to grips with the weak ass support that phil brought in to so call help..baker, sasha, randle..wtf is that