BRIGGS wrote:I don't kill him for our record
We just weren't going to be a great or even good team
His best move? I think picking Willy G at 36 by using a trade
And sticking with KP at pick 4. I also believe our draft this year will yield success and agree with all 3 picks win lose or draw. Do not think the big men Udfas are nba players
Trades? Ah should've got better for Chandler but I'm not bitching about it.
Worst moves? Well I guess the obvious is Noah. Noah was like buying a falling stock though every indicator out there said stay away. I will personally say the worst move was not executing the trade with Boston to acquire Jackson. From Mj to Kobe and Lebron you're looking at 12 nba titles and so much success that it's stifling. I thought the uber athletic Kackson represented over of those players. We have Willy G-- he can develop into a great 5 man. It's not like they had to prove anything about kp-- but rather balancing out the Knicks and putting in place a player who can be that type of player.
I guess well find out
I'd grade him a C

Its tough to fault him to much because of what the previous regime did, they handcuffed his ability to build through the draft.When you have no young assets, and no picks your pretty much screwed from the start. By far the Noah signing was the dumbest move he made. I thought they were clearly playing time for Porzingis and Willy at center when they traded Lopez. Should of used that money on a wing instead

Can't attract FA with the triangle being your pitch

Stupid to try and build through the draft with just 2 or 3 picks over the life of his contact

Drafting players then trading them

poor development of drafted players

FA that he signed were either waived, not resign, or opted out, or simple never made us better

always blaming Melo even when he's not even playing

RAMBIS is the real locker room cancer

Hire's young in experience coaches so he can control them like puppets

passive aggressive approach towards the media

has not been able to attract any marquee FA

I think melo and Bron are the only players in the league with a NTC

Willy is ok, but is impact is ZERO.

Frank looks like a decent young player, but french player are SOFT non contact players, you see that in all his highlight reels.

So in reality Phill has done nothing well and his record as an exec is the proof.

Right now KP as much as he wants to remain a knick, if phil is extended, KP is out

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I don't kill him for our record
We just weren't going to be a great or even good team
His best move? I think picking Willy G at 36 by using a trade
And sticking with KP at pick 4. I also believe our draft this year will yield success and agree with all 3 picks win lose or draw. Do not think the big men Udfas are nba players
Trades? Ah should've got better for Chandler but I'm not bitching about it.
Worst moves? Well I guess the obvious is Noah. Noah was like buying a falling stock though every indicator out there said stay away. I will personally say the worst move was not executing the trade with Boston to acquire Jackson. From Mj to Kobe and Lebron you're looking at 12 nba titles and so much success that it's stifling. I thought the uber athletic Kackson represented over of those players. We have Willy G-- he can develop into a great 5 man. It's not like they had to prove anything about kp-- but rather balancing out the Knicks and putting in place a player who can be that type of player.
I guess well find out
I'd grade him a C

Its tough to fault him to much because of what the previous regime did, they handcuffed his ability to build through the draft.When you have no young assets, and no picks your pretty much screwed from the start. By far the Noah signing was the dumbest move he made. I thought they were clearly playing time for Porzingis and Willy at center when they traded Lopez. Should of used that money on a wing instead

The dumbest move he made was to believe he could change Melo and make him play team ball within the context of the offense instead of standing around, pounding the clock away and chucking contested off balance shots. That more than anything had defined his overall performance to date. He should have cut MElo loose then and moved into full rebuild mode instead of wasting time on this ungrateful scumbag. Just not having that jerk on the team would have paid for itself by now. Phil's failure to do that remains his biggest blooper to date.

martin wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I don't kill him for our record
We just weren't going to be a great or even good team
His best move? I think picking Willy G at 36 by using a trade
And sticking with KP at pick 4. I also believe our draft this year will yield success and agree with all 3 picks win lose or draw. Do not think the big men Udfas are nba players
Trades? Ah should've got better for Chandler but I'm not bitching about it.
Worst moves? Well I guess the obvious is Noah. Noah was like buying a falling stock though every indicator out there said stay away. I will personally say the worst move was not executing the trade with Boston to acquire Jackson. From Mj to Kobe and Lebron you're looking at 12 nba titles and so much success that it's stifling. I thought the uber athletic Kackson represented over of those players. We have Willy G-- he can develop into a great 5 man. It's not like they had to prove anything about kp-- but rather balancing out the Knicks and putting in place a player who can be that type of player.
I guess well find out
I'd grade him a C

Its tough to fault him to much because of what the previous regime did, they handcuffed his ability to build through the draft.When you have no young assets, and no picks your pretty much screwed from the start. By far the Noah signing was the dumbest move he made. I thought they were clearly playing time for Porzingis and Willy at center when they traded Lopez. Should of used that money on a wing instead

The dumbest move he made was to believe he could change Melo and make him play team ball within the context of the offense instead of standing around, pounding the clock away and chucking contested off balance shots. That more than anything had defined his overall performance to date. He should have cut MElo loose then and moved into full rebuild mode instead of wasting time on this ungrateful scumbag. Just not having that jerk on the team would have paid for itself by now. Phil's failure to do that remains his biggest blooper to date.

DadMelo showed up. Melo went back into IsoMelo mode.

Phils job is not only produce a winning bbal club but also to keep MSG profits as high as possible.
Financially MSG doing exceptionally well and Phil facilitated this without sacrificing future assets and even adding some.
Melo may be not a winning player so it Rose.
But they are exceptional moneymakers and entertainers. So is Phil figure himself.
The media drama, constant attention grabs was what doctor ordered for Dolan and Co.
If you listen to many fans (this board included) Melo is huge attraction for bbal lovers casual and even junkies.
Hoah was gambled on to create a huppla about new season and bring energy. This never materialized.
But overall the body of work done by Phil is great from financial perspective which is evident by him being extended to end of his contract.
If he will continue to generate money for the corporation he is due to extension for sure.

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I don't kill him for our record
We just weren't going to be a great or even good team
His best move? I think picking Willy G at 36 by using a trade
And sticking with KP at pick 4. I also believe our draft this year will yield success and agree with all 3 picks win lose or draw. Do not think the big men Udfas are nba players
Trades? Ah should've got better for Chandler but I'm not bitching about it.
Worst moves? Well I guess the obvious is Noah. Noah was like buying a falling stock though every indicator out there said stay away. I will personally say the worst move was not executing the trade with Boston to acquire Jackson. From Mj to Kobe and Lebron you're looking at 12 nba titles and so much success that it's stifling. I thought the uber athletic Kackson represented over of those players. We have Willy G-- he can develop into a great 5 man. It's not like they had to prove anything about kp-- but rather balancing out the Knicks and putting in place a player who can be that type of player.
I guess well find out
I'd grade him a C

Its tough to fault him to much because of what the previous regime did, they handcuffed his ability to build through the draft.When you have no young assets, and no picks your pretty much screwed from the start. By far the Noah signing was the dumbest move he made. I thought they were clearly playing time for Porzingis and Willy at center when they traded Lopez. Should of used that money on a wing instead

The dumbest move he made was to believe he could change Melo and make him play team ball within the context of the offense instead of standing around, pounding the clock away and chucking contested off balance shots. That more than anything had defined his overall performance to date. He should have cut MElo loose then and moved into full rebuild mode instead of wasting time on this ungrateful scumbag. Just not having that jerk on the team would have paid for itself by now. Phil's failure to do that remains his biggest blooper to date.

DadMelo showed up. Melo went back into IsoMelo mode.

maybe the fact that primarily everyone around him shot under 42%, pretty Tough to trust players who can't shoot.

except that isn't true. And maybe if DadMelo showed up, the shooting around him would have been better.

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I don't kill him for our record
We just weren't going to be a great or even good team
His best move? I think picking Willy G at 36 by using a trade
And sticking with KP at pick 4. I also believe our draft this year will yield success and agree with all 3 picks win lose or draw. Do not think the big men Udfas are nba players
Trades? Ah should've got better for Chandler but I'm not bitching about it.
Worst moves? Well I guess the obvious is Noah. Noah was like buying a falling stock though every indicator out there said stay away. I will personally say the worst move was not executing the trade with Boston to acquire Jackson. From Mj to Kobe and Lebron you're looking at 12 nba titles and so much success that it's stifling. I thought the uber athletic Kackson represented over of those players. We have Willy G-- he can develop into a great 5 man. It's not like they had to prove anything about kp-- but rather balancing out the Knicks and putting in place a player who can be that type of player.
I guess well find out
I'd grade him a C

Its tough to fault him to much because of what the previous regime did, they handcuffed his ability to build through the draft.When you have no young assets, and no picks your pretty much screwed from the start. By far the Noah signing was the dumbest move he made. I thought they were clearly playing time for Porzingis and Willy at center when they traded Lopez. Should of used that money on a wing instead

The dumbest move he made was to believe he could change Melo and make him play team ball within the context of the offense instead of standing around, pounding the clock away and chucking contested off balance shots. That more than anything had defined his overall performance to date. He should have cut MElo loose then and moved into full rebuild mode instead of wasting time on this ungrateful scumbag. Just not having that jerk on the team would have paid for itself by now. Phil's failure to do that remains his biggest blooper to date.

DadMelo showed up. Melo went back into IsoMelo mode.

maybe the fact that primarily everyone around him shot under 42%, pretty Tough to trust players who can't shoot.

except that isn't true. And maybe if DadMelo showed up, the shooting around him would have been better.

they shoot the same weather he's on the floor or not..lol, half the roster are career poor shooters.

it doesn't help either that we are mid range shooting team, a historical low pct shot

DadMelo, not when Melo is on versus off court. Move the ball, move yourself, buy into the offense. No IsoMelo

knicks1248 wrote:Why is he forcing his system on the players despite constant resistance from majaority of players

Can't attract FA with the triangle being your pitch

Stupid to try and build through the draft with just 2 or 3 picks over the life of his contact

Drafting players then trading them

poor development of drafted players

FA that he signed were either waived, not resign, or opted out, or simple never made us better

always blaming Melo even when he's not even playing

RAMBIS is the real locker room cancer

Hire's young in experience coaches so he can control them like puppets

passive aggressive approach towards the media

has not been able to attract any marquee FA

I think melo and Bron are the only players in the league with a NTC

Willy is ok, but is impact is ZERO.

Frank looks like a decent young player, but french player are SOFT non contact players, you see that in all his highlight reels.

So in reality Phill has done nothing well and his record as an exec is the proof.

Right now KP as much as he wants to remain a knick, if phil is extended, KP is out

http://www.nba.com/article/2017/06/26/all-rookie-teams-release-2016-17-season

martin wrote:

JesseDark wrote:His worst mistake has been devaluing his own assets. As the new season approaches what gm would consider trading for Melo when talk of a buyout is in the air?

who put the buyout talk out there? Melo? His agents? Other GMs?

Contract is to big to trade to a contender, and a NTC. Buyout is the last option, so some GM put it out there