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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29852 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
6/16/2017 11:58 AM
This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.
http://www.eurobasket.com/France/basketball.asp He is the youngest player in the pro league and one of around 5-6 players that are under 20 in this league. He moved up to the pro league after he lead France to the Euro under 18 championship. http://www.fiba.com/europe/u18/2016 Prior to this The question is how much does playing in a Pro league vs grown men where he is expected to contribute to winning and will get treated the same way rookies do in the NBA help his growth over playing 30 mins in a college setting? Based on what he is doing now at 18 yrs old though as the youngest player in the league. Starting and getting meaningful mins in Finals games. In the same league 2 years from now he would probably be MVP of the league and become the Lebron James of it. Though that level of comp isn't close to the NBA level, but for an 18 yr old it seems solid. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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fishmike
Posts: 53040 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
6/16/2017 12:26 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.great post and perspective. Ntilikina already has 2 years of pro ball under his belt. We saw how this translated with KP and Willy. All things being equal give me Frank. The two way dimension playing in front of KP/Willy is just too much pass on "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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newyorknewyork
Posts: 29852 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 1/16/2004 Member: #541 |
6/16/2017 1:23 PM
fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.great post and perspective. Ntilikina already has 2 years of pro ball under his belt. We saw how this translated with KP and Willy. All things being equal give me Frank. The two way dimension playing in front of KP/Willy is just too much pass on The thing is I don't think the viewpoint from either side is wrong. It really comes down to the players making it happen. There are tons of examples for either side. But Knicks67 said it best. We are all tired of the drama and relying on a star to come save us and make everything happen for us. I want to be secure in that foundation of high IQ, unselfish team players who put in effort on defense is in place first and foremost. But the thing about Franky is he checks off all those boxes yet still has potential to be an elite talent. Developing better handling comes with practice. Hitting the gym and adding muscle around the 6'5 frame 190pds 7'1 wing span at 18 yrs old so he can finish better around the paint is doable. But things he already comes equipped with is a lot harder to find today. https://vote.nba.com/en Vote for your Knicks.
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fishmike
Posts: 53040 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
6/16/2017 1:58 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:I have a lot of faith that we get this right. Its the only part of this org I 100% believe in. I am sure we have a good draft. So if Ntilikina, Smith Jr and Monk are all on the board at 8 I am confident we take the right guy. Mitchell isnt impossible there either. I dont believe Kenard is in play. Possible Issac drops but I dont really see that.fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.great post and perspective. Ntilikina already has 2 years of pro ball under his belt. We saw how this translated with KP and Willy. All things being equal give me Frank. The two way dimension playing in front of KP/Willy is just too much pass on I agree though... Frank checks all the boxes, including despite being very young might be the most NBA ready "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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StarksEwing1
Posts: 32671 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 12/28/2012 Member: #4451 |
6/16/2017 2:04 PM
fishmike wrote:agreed fish. Look i wasnt happy we fell to 8 mostly because i wanted fox. However we are lucky that its a pretty strong draft. If you are in the top 10 chances are you will get a good player which isnt always the case in most drafts. Also a top guy usually falls too so you never knownewyorknewyork wrote:I have a lot of faith that we get this right. Its the only part of this org I 100% believe in. I am sure we have a good draft. So if Ntilikina, Smith Jr and Monk are all on the board at 8 I am confident we take the right guy. Mitchell isnt impossible there either. I dont believe Kenard is in play. Possible Issac drops but I dont really see that.fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.great post and perspective. Ntilikina already has 2 years of pro ball under his belt. We saw how this translated with KP and Willy. All things being equal give me Frank. The two way dimension playing in front of KP/Willy is just too much pass on |
newyorker4ever
Posts: 26515 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/19/2014 Member: #5816 |
6/16/2017 2:39 PM LAST EDITED: 6/16/2017 2:42 PM
fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:I have a lot of faith that we get this right. Its the only part of this org I 100% believe in. I am sure we have a good draft. So if Ntilikina, Smith Jr and Monk are all on the board at 8 I am confident we take the right guy. Mitchell isnt impossible there either. I dont believe Kenard is in play. Possible Issac drops but I dont really see that.fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.great post and perspective. Ntilikina already has 2 years of pro ball under his belt. We saw how this translated with KP and Willy. All things being equal give me Frank. The two way dimension playing in front of KP/Willy is just too much pass on If there's one thing our front office has shown us we can trust it's our drafting or should i say that it's Gaines. I'm gonna trust the decisions he makes for us in the draft until he shows me i can't trust him any more. I know some will point to the J.Grant decision but if you go back and look at that draft and the players that were still sitting there at #19 you'll see there wasn't very strong options left. I'm also not sure how much Gaines had to do with that pick either. |
meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
6/16/2017 2:50 PM
newyorker4ever wrote:fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:I have a lot of faith that we get this right. Its the only part of this org I 100% believe in. I am sure we have a good draft. So if Ntilikina, Smith Jr and Monk are all on the board at 8 I am confident we take the right guy. Mitchell isnt impossible there either. I dont believe Kenard is in play. Possible Issac drops but I dont really see that.fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.great post and perspective. Ntilikina already has 2 years of pro ball under his belt. We saw how this translated with KP and Willy. All things being equal give me Frank. The two way dimension playing in front of KP/Willy is just too much pass on Gaines had been build up to be this legend by the Phil haters because it gives threading a way to divert the praise to someone else. It's semi amusing I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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fishmike
Posts: 53040 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
6/16/2017 3:22 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:not sure the poster above is one of those guys but your 100% correct... there is a vocal group here that reminds us that everything Phil has done is bad.. and Gaines drafted KP/Willynewyorker4ever wrote:fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:I have a lot of faith that we get this right. Its the only part of this org I 100% believe in. I am sure we have a good draft. So if Ntilikina, Smith Jr and Monk are all on the board at 8 I am confident we take the right guy. Mitchell isnt impossible there either. I dont believe Kenard is in play. Possible Issac drops but I dont really see that.fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.great post and perspective. Ntilikina already has 2 years of pro ball under his belt. We saw how this translated with KP and Willy. All things being equal give me Frank. The two way dimension playing in front of KP/Willy is just too much pass on "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
6/16/2017 4:39 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:Gaines has done a great job. Finding Galloway, NDour, Willie, recommending KP etc. He was hired by Phil and Phil respects him enough to value and listen to his opinion. He's Phil's guy so Phil gets credit there. Giving Gaines credit isn't taking away from Phil. Phil has a boat load of mistakes that are on him. I don't think anyone would suggest that Phil bringing Gaines in and giving him a voice wasn't a good move by Phil.newyorker4ever wrote:fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:I have a lot of faith that we get this right. Its the only part of this org I 100% believe in. I am sure we have a good draft. So if Ntilikina, Smith Jr and Monk are all on the board at 8 I am confident we take the right guy. Mitchell isnt impossible there either. I dont believe Kenard is in play. Possible Issac drops but I dont really see that.fishmike wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is a link to the league Frank N plays for.great post and perspective. Ntilikina already has 2 years of pro ball under his belt. We saw how this translated with KP and Willy. All things being equal give me Frank. The two way dimension playing in front of KP/Willy is just too much pass on I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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