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Uptown
Posts: 30878 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
4/26/2017 9:01 AM
BTW...I wonder if phil had this info when he offered Melo the NTC
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
4/26/2017 10:43 AM
Paris907 wrote:Watching Isolation Joe lead the Jazz with 28 last night, I couldn't help think of Melo. Neither one is in top condition, Joe now at 35 and clearly not able to bring it night in and night out. Yet there he was scoring double figures in the 4th when Utah needed baskets with Hayward out. A team like Utah or a variety of other Playoff teams could use an ISO scorer when their offense isn't breaking down defenses. Boston, LA Clippers and 3-4 other teams could use a Melo --- how much does Joe earn anyway ? The thing about Joe Johnson's isolation is that he is a very willing passer. Joe has always been a good assist numbers guy. |
TripleThreat
Posts: 23106 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/24/2012 Member: #3997 |
4/27/2017 4:55 AM
nixluva wrote:Rose was a low risk move. Same as BJ. You take a shot and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle. IMO it was worth a shot.
Never trade big for small You'd have to go back to Otis Smith desperately trading Marcin Gortat for Jason Richardson to find a trade as equally as bizarre. ( I suppose that's one thing Rose can hang his hat on, unlike Richardson, he didn't get another players wife pregnant. Then again Steve Nash is Canadian, and they are typically very polite and forgiving people, otherwise I have no idea why guys like Richardson and Tony Parker are still alive. You try that happy horsesh#t in other countries, in other places in the world, and they will cut your throat open for it) Rose was a lose/lose situation from the start It created a hole at center. What John Paxson and the Bulls got was a bailout. They got something for a player they didn't want or would likely have dumped for less anyway. I'm supposed to say, to each their own, everyone has an opinion and a right to it and yadda yadda yadda and all that politically correct BS, but there are no NBA marketplace conventions in place that make the Rose trade seem either feasible or sensible. It was and is, to market convention, a completely senseless trade. Who was the GM of the Mets back in the day? Omar Minaya from the Expos? And every other team, including Billy Beane, took turns basically gutting the guy in trades. He was like the scrawny guy in prison all the bullies took turns gang raping in the shower. On the prison yard, Phil Jackson is definitely holding onto some dudes stuck out pocket. |
HofstraBBall
Posts: 27152 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
4/27/2017 10:21 AM
TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote:Rose was a low risk move. Same as BJ. You take a shot and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle. IMO it was worth a shot. Good post. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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meloshouldgo
Posts: 26565 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/3/2014 Member: #5801 |
4/27/2017 11:25 AM LAST EDITED: 4/27/2017 11:26 AM
HofstraBBall wrote:LivingLegend wrote:Johnson has made more big shots in 1 series than Fugazy Melo has in all his years with the Knicks. This has to be the most sexist and racist basketball post I have read in a while. Keep it clean or STFU I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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Vmart
Posts: 31800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/23/2002 Member: #247 USA |
4/27/2017 12:05 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:LivingLegend wrote:Johnson has made more big shots in 1 series than Fugazy Melo has in all his years with the Knicks. You know that is roughly one a year it's 2017. |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
4/27/2017 2:19 PM
TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote:Rose was a low risk move. Same as BJ. You take a shot and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle. IMO it was worth a shot. The idea wasn't to just make the 8th seed in the playoffs! This was a shot to try and do something while you still had Melo. If it doesn't work you have your pick and you can let Rose walk. The Rose deal was not done to meet criteria of Market Convention!!! It was more of a Hail Mary than a long term calculated move. You take a shot and see if it works. If not you move in a different direction and that is what is happening now. The Melo Era is now OVER!!! There is no longer any reason to continue doing anything in the interests of making it work with Melo. This is now 100% about foundation building. |
HofstraBBall
Posts: 27152 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
4/27/2017 3:43 PM
nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote:Rose was a low risk move. Same as BJ. You take a shot and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle. IMO it was worth a shot. You keep leaving out one important thing...Phil cares the most about what? TRIANGLE. It just not right when you guys keep saying that Rose and Noah were brought over to build around Melo. I give Phil more credit than that. Why would he put a high usage player , like Rose, with another one in Melo. And what does that say for his plan for KP in the lineup? Nah. He wanted guys he thought could fit the Triangle model. If he wanted to build around Melo he would have traded/signed three point shooting pieces, pass first point guard, had Melo at 4 and fed Melo the ball. Anyway. Lets focus on draft date. Think the Phil/Melo debate has been put through the ringer. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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yellowboy90
Posts: 33942 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/23/2011 Member: #3538 |
4/27/2017 7:19 PM
nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote:Rose was a low risk move. Same as BJ. You take a shot and see if you can catch lightning in a bottle. IMO it was worth a shot. How about taking a shot with a player that is actually good? Why not try to work out a deal with ATL or Indy for Teague or Hill. Maybe try not to include Calderon in the deal so you can pick up a 1st rounder to trade with a 3rd team. How about wait until the Bulls cut him since they were ready to move on from him just like the knicks were. Why didn't Phil listen to Paxon in his end of year press conference when he said it would be best for Rose to move on. Oh wait. |
HofstraBBall
Posts: 27152 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
4/27/2017 9:47 PM
Vmart wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:LivingLegend wrote:Johnson has made more big shots in 1 series than Fugazy Melo has in all his years with the Knicks. Great job. Now read the article and tell me who had more. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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HofstraBBall
Posts: 27152 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 11/21/2015 Member: #6192 |
4/27/2017 9:52 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:LivingLegend wrote:Johnson has made more big shots in 1 series than Fugazy Melo has in all his years with the Knicks. Right to the race card. Once again. Please Stfu. Go root for the Nets and your girl and stop trolling. Say what you want. It's predictable. But don't try to make your narrow viewed hate caused by Lin wanting to get paid sound like Knick status input. Off with you. 'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
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