Melo would do the same, if not more...in a different situation. Lets say it another way, Joe Johnson would look like Melo if he was in NY.....And had similar off court baggage. But NY has a way of humbling the NBA best....

nixluva wrote:That's the general idea. Melo would be great on a team that doesn't need him to win in the regular season. He can ride shotgun and take it easy until needed. Especially in the playoffs!!! That's why I thought it was a mistake for a team like LAC or Bos not to really push for a Melo Trade.

That's why he needs to go. He's not going to win with the Knicks. The right move isn't to fire Phil and starphuck around Melo. The right move is to trade Melo and build through the draft. Melo still has anther chapter in his career to write. The Knicks have to focus on building so they can catch the next wave and compete for years to come

LivingLegend wrote:Johnson has made more big shots in 1 series than Fugazy Melo has in all his years with the Knicks.

One guy makes big shots the other makes excuses for everything under the son.

Give me Joe Johnson 100X out of 100X over Melo who is Mr 1st quarter stat padder and builds his reputation on big shots against weak ass teams in meaningless regular season games on crappy teams.

Johnson > Melo the Cheat

Keep talking.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2695076-carmelo-anthony-nails-16th-late-game-winning-shots-since-2003-04

How many has your Asian girlfriend made? Is she still with the Nets?

GustavBahler wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/carmelo-anthony-leave-knicks-nba-team-article-1.3098249

Interesting article and stats. Dont want this trade to happen though.

But what about 9 and 51?

Where are all the violins for Carmelo?

When projected to 82 games, the Pelicans with Davis (146-189) improve 10 games, going from 26 to 36 wins, while Phil's Knicks with Melo (71-115) jump from 12 wins to 31.

Melo improves Phil's Knicks by 19 games. How many more should we expect?

Paris907 wrote:Perhaps brad Stevens will know how to use Melo but I wonder about Pops. Would Pops want Melo? Spurs are chronic overachievers. Parker and Ginobli cooked, Aldridge not the prolific scorer he was and Green ain't shooting. So sure they need offensive help. But they are the epicenter of teamplay and i question if Pop would want slow footed Melo.

So let's say Phil wasn't GM. Say it's Donnie Walsh or someone who has demonstrated aptitude as a GM. Then imagine Pops coaching the Knicks. I think that a little tinkering here and there, some speed on defense, some added sharpshooters, they win. Perhaps I'm wrong yet I suspect the style of play that Phil wants and that Pops would instill, would not be in conflict.

Donnie Walsh didn't he buy out Marbury? I mean he has his toss away also. Why can't Melo be Phil's at least Phil Might get assets back.

HofstraBBall wrote:

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:9 & 51.

That's a nice little factoid but really who gives F? We need to build a team that can contend for a Title and not just win games but have NO SHOT at a Title.

This team needs to be free of Melo. He's a crutch for the rest of the team and when he's gone you can get a much clearer picture of what this team has and what it's going to need. We need to see the ugly truth and not have it masked by Melo scoring a bunch of points.

Minus Melo this team can try to develop more of the abilities of the rest of the team. If Melo was less of a Ball Stopper they would all get more touches and maybe develop faster.

You just can't let it go. If you think this team is going to do anything without Melo, your......

Now I see the inner workings of a poor Jet fan. Lol. Didn't know you need Melo removed to rate D League talent. Just placed a bet in Vegas that KP forces a trade by threatening to go back to Euro league. What odds do you think I got?

Female or teenager?

nixluva wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:9 & 51.

That's a nice little factoid but really who gives F? We need to build a team that can contend for a Title and not just win games but have NO SHOT at a Title.

This team needs to be free of Melo. He's a crutch for the rest of the team and when he's gone you can get a much clearer picture of what this team has and what it's going to need. We need to see the ugly truth and not have it masked by Melo scoring a bunch of points.

Minus Melo this team can try to develop more of the abilities of the rest of the team. If Melo was less of a Ball Stopper they would all get more touches and maybe develop faster.

You just can't let it go. If you think this team is going to do anything without Melo, your......

Now I see the inner workings of a poor Jet fan. Lol. Didn't know you need Melo removed to rate D League talent. Just placed a bet in Vegas that KP forces a trade by threatening to go back to Euro league. What odds do you think I got?

Female or teenager?

ISO JOE helping to make the Melo to Clippers deal a reality. LOL. I'll help Melo pack if he waives that NTC. This team has to move on and Melo does too. He should want to play on a playoff team with guys his age.

And we know Phil won't be able to make that happen here!

Look, whether Melo goes or not, doesn't matter to me - in terms of a rebuild, our goal has to be 3-5 years out. That is when KP might be able to be physically strong enough to contend, and hopefully play a season without nagging little injuries.

The only reason Melo has to go is because of Phil- and after this past season, I don't understand how any Knick fan can trust Phil's judgement.

How can you defend the Noah signing?

How can you defend the Rose trade?

And then support Phil to continue to guide this franchise?

And now the one thing everyone hangs Phil's hat on - drafting the future Franchise cornerstone, KP- is potentially undone by either KP rebelling or Phil trading him.

So what positive contributions to this franchise has Phil made? And you CANNOT answer that he hasn't traded away any future first round picks- an empty chair could have done that.

And come to think of it, if they had simply not made any moves and not had a GM and stayed the course, I think this team would be in better shape.

franco12 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

nixluva wrote:

franco12 wrote:9 & 51.

That's a nice little factoid but really who gives F? We need to build a team that can contend for a Title and not just win games but have NO SHOT at a Title.

This team needs to be free of Melo. He's a crutch for the rest of the team and when he's gone you can get a much clearer picture of what this team has and what it's going to need. We need to see the ugly truth and not have it masked by Melo scoring a bunch of points.

Minus Melo this team can try to develop more of the abilities of the rest of the team. If Melo was less of a Ball Stopper they would all get more touches and maybe develop faster.

You just can't let it go. If you think this team is going to do anything without Melo, your......

Now I see the inner workings of a poor Jet fan. Lol. Didn't know you need Melo removed to rate D League talent. Just placed a bet in Vegas that KP forces a trade by threatening to go back to Euro league. What odds do you think I got?

Female or teenager?

ISO JOE helping to make the Melo to Clippers deal a reality. LOL. I'll help Melo pack if he waives that NTC. This team has to move on and Melo does too. He should want to play on a playoff team with guys his age.

And we know Phil won't be able to make that happen here!

Look, whether Melo goes or not, doesn't matter to me - in terms of a rebuild, our goal has to be 3-5 years out. That is when KP might be able to be physically strong enough to contend, and hopefully play a season without nagging little injuries.

The only reason Melo has to go is because of Phil- and after this past season, I don't understand how any Knick fan can trust Phil's judgement.

How can you defend the Noah signing?

How can you defend the Rose trade?

And then support Phil to continue to guide this franchise?

And now the one thing everyone hangs Phil's hat on - drafting the future Franchise cornerstone, KP- is potentially undone by either KP rebelling or Phil trading him.

So what positive contributions to this franchise has Phil made? And you CANNOT answer that he hasn't traded away any future first round picks- an empty chair could have done that.

And come to think of it, if they had simply not made any moves and not had a GM and stayed the course, I think this team would be in better shape.

Well said. Be ready for the "We have a young core of players". Most were guys who had one foot outside NBA if not for our low standards. Imo, if Melo goes, we have no playoff starting caliber players. Lee woild be a back-up as he is too inconsistent and is better suited off the bench. KP is not able to guard his position....yet. But yeah, Phil did well. And with 2 more years of this, KP will want out in 2019.