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MS
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4/19/2017  10:09 AM
Amazing watching Lopez control the glass and provide scoring against the best team in the east, while listening to our smug GM talk about the players we want in this organization like Ron Baker, after trading a center that played 82 games and just goes about his business, doesn't need shots and is a great team guy.

This was another huge zero for Phil. We have a lingering corpse in street clothes signed three more years, suspended and pretending to play.

Hard to imagine Phil pitching a plan, after trading for an injured guard to sign an injured center then praising that point guard as a premier scorer and then emasculating our best player during a press conference who scores the ball at a higher rate.

Robin would have been a great asset to trade to a contending team, but again Phil loves just giving away players for no return.

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4/19/2017  10:24 AM
I wonder if Phil watches the playoffs and thinks about how every player he's traded/gave away except Tyson Chandler and Wayne Ellington are in the playoffs.

I also wonder if Phil watches the playoffs, at all.

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4/19/2017  10:25 AM
matt wrote:I wonder if Phil watches the playoffs and thinks about how every player he's traded/gave away except Tyson Chandler and Wayne Ellington are in the playoffs.

I also wonder if Phil watches the playoffs, at all.

He's watching VHS tapes of the 1992 playoffs in Montana with Joakim as they share a massive bowl.

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4/19/2017  10:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2017  10:30 AM
We should have kept Rolo... yes

We have Hernangomez and KP now... life goes on

You know why I'm here....
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4/19/2017  10:28 AM
MS wrote:Amazing watching Lopez control the glass and provide scoring against the best team in the east, while listening to our smug GM talk about the players we want in this organization like Ron Baker, after trading a center that played 82 games and just goes about his business, doesn't need shots and is a great team guy.

This was another huge zero for Phil. We have a lingering corpse in street clothes signed three more years, suspended and pretending to play.

Hard to imagine Phil pitching a plan, after trading for an injured guard to sign an injured center then praising that point guard as a premier scorer and then emasculating our best player during a press conference who scores the ball at a higher rate.

Robin would have been a great asset to trade to a contending team, but again Phil loves just giving away players for no return.

Control the glass with 8 rebounds..Come on...He hit some key open shots which is good..Noah deal bites the big one tho...

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4/19/2017  10:28 AM
MS wrote:Amazing watching Lopez control the glass and provide scoring against the best team in the east, while listening to our smug GM talk about the players we want in this organization like Ron Baker, after trading a center that played 82 games and just goes about his business, doesn't need shots and is a great team guy.

This was another huge zero for Phil. We have a lingering corpse in street clothes signed three more years, suspended and pretending to play.

Hard to imagine Phil pitching a plan, after trading for an injured guard to sign an injured center then praising that point guard as a premier scorer and then emasculating our best player during a press conference who scores the ball at a higher rate.

Robin would have been a great asset to trade to a contending team, but again Phil loves just giving away players for no return.

Rolo has looked really good. The weirdest thing to me about the Rolo trade has always been that he is the guy here who seemed to get the Triangle the best. He was also hands down the best defender Phil brought in...

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4/19/2017  10:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2017  10:33 AM
crzymdups wrote:
MS wrote:Amazing watching Lopez control the glass and provide scoring against the best team in the east, while listening to our smug GM talk about the players we want in this organization like Ron Baker, after trading a center that played 82 games and just goes about his business, doesn't need shots and is a great team guy.

This was another huge zero for Phil. We have a lingering corpse in street clothes signed three more years, suspended and pretending to play.

Hard to imagine Phil pitching a plan, after trading for an injured guard to sign an injured center then praising that point guard as a premier scorer and then emasculating our best player during a press conference who scores the ball at a higher rate.

Robin would have been a great asset to trade to a contending team, but again Phil loves just giving away players for no return.

Rolo has looked really good. The weirdest thing to me about the Rolo trade has always been that he is the guy here who seemed to get the Triangle the best. He was also hands down the best defender Phil brought in...

No please stop..Phil has been bad yes but the Rolo love has to stop..Dude can't pass which is essential at his position in the triangle...He had one option last year when he got the ball in the pivot and that was the lazy hook..Don't make this something that it's not...

The tragedy is that everyone is measured by the triangle...

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4/19/2017  10:33 AM
holfresh wrote:
MS wrote:Amazing watching Lopez control the glass and provide scoring against the best team in the east, while listening to our smug GM talk about the players we want in this organization like Ron Baker, after trading a center that played 82 games and just goes about his business, doesn't need shots and is a great team guy.

This was another huge zero for Phil. We have a lingering corpse in street clothes signed three more years, suspended and pretending to play.

Hard to imagine Phil pitching a plan, after trading for an injured guard to sign an injured center then praising that point guard as a premier scorer and then emasculating our best player during a press conference who scores the ball at a higher rate.

Robin would have been a great asset to trade to a contending team, but again Phil loves just giving away players for no return.

Control the glass with 8 rebounds..Come on...He hit some key open shots which is good..Noah deal bites the big one tho...

Rolo is really good at boxing out for other players. Bulls have been destroying the Celts on the boards in this series and Rolo has definitely been controlling the paint. Bulls have a lot of guards who swoop down for rebounds like Rondo and Butler and Wade.


KP always rebounded much better playing alongside Rolo.

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4/19/2017  10:34 AM    LAST EDITED: 4/19/2017  10:37 AM
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:
MS wrote:Amazing watching Lopez control the glass and provide scoring against the best team in the east, while listening to our smug GM talk about the players we want in this organization like Ron Baker, after trading a center that played 82 games and just goes about his business, doesn't need shots and is a great team guy.

This was another huge zero for Phil. We have a lingering corpse in street clothes signed three more years, suspended and pretending to play.

Hard to imagine Phil pitching a plan, after trading for an injured guard to sign an injured center then praising that point guard as a premier scorer and then emasculating our best player during a press conference who scores the ball at a higher rate.

Robin would have been a great asset to trade to a contending team, but again Phil loves just giving away players for no return.

Control the glass with 8 rebounds..Come on...He hit some key open shots which is good..Noah deal bites the big one tho...

Rolo is really good at boxing out for other players. Bulls have been destroying the Celts on the boards in this series and Rolo has definitely been controlling the paint. Bulls have a lot of guards who swoop down for rebounds like Rondo and Butler and Wade.


KP always rebounded much better playing alongside Rolo.

Insane..AAAhhhhhhh..I showed playoff stats to refute this where Aldridge numbers went up in the playoffs when Rolo sat...KP rebounds the same...

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4/19/2017  10:34 AM
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
MS wrote:Amazing watching Lopez control the glass and provide scoring against the best team in the east, while listening to our smug GM talk about the players we want in this organization like Ron Baker, after trading a center that played 82 games and just goes about his business, doesn't need shots and is a great team guy.

This was another huge zero for Phil. We have a lingering corpse in street clothes signed three more years, suspended and pretending to play.

Hard to imagine Phil pitching a plan, after trading for an injured guard to sign an injured center then praising that point guard as a premier scorer and then emasculating our best player during a press conference who scores the ball at a higher rate.

Robin would have been a great asset to trade to a contending team, but again Phil loves just giving away players for no return.

Rolo has looked really good. The weirdest thing to me about the Rolo trade has always been that he is the guy here who seemed to get the Triangle the best. He was also hands down the best defender Phil brought in...

No please stop..Phil has been bad yes but the Rolo love has to stop..Dude can't pass which is essential at his position in the triangle...He had one option last year when he got the ball and that was the lazy hook..Don't make this something that it's not...

The tragedy is that everyone is measured by the triangle...

I agree with that last part for sure.

I liked Rolo a lot, didn't love him as much as some guys here. In a lot of ways he's a throw back center. But I was just mystified by the move. At first I thought Phil was going away from the Triangle, but when he went back to doubling down on the Triangle, trading away Rolo just makes even less sense. Especially because it was for Rose, who is in no way a Triangle fit at PG. Just mystifying

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4/19/2017  10:37 AM
I liked RoLo as a Knick. He is a solid player.

I would rather have him than Noah. That being said, KP and Willy are the future.

Trading RoLo for Rose was done because Melo said he was staying and he wanted to win here. They tried to accelerate the process and took the gamble on Rose. Cap wise, it was a good move. Rose had 1 year, Lopez 3 years. The plan was decent, trade RoLo, sign Noah. Similar player and a good fit IF healthy. It was a gamble. Didn't work out but the long term effect is negligible.

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4/19/2017  10:37 AM
Imagine Robin on the knicks and how much better we were with him!!!!
Pair him with KP and Melo, and we'd be in the playoffs as the 8th seed up 2-0 on Celtics!!
How did that work?
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4/19/2017  10:41 AM
Nalod wrote:Imagine Robin on the knicks and how much better we were with him!!!!
Pair him with KP and Melo, and we'd be in the playoffs as the 8th seed up 2-0 on Celtics!!
How did that work?

Great point - we should trade a young healthy center for an older, injured center we can pay more!

Some people just don't understand how this team building stuff works!

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4/19/2017  10:45 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:Imagine Robin on the knicks and how much better we were with him!!!!
Pair him with KP and Melo, and we'd be in the playoffs as the 8th seed up 2-0 on Celtics!!
How did that work?

Great point - we should trade a young healthy center for an older, injured center we can pay more!

Some people just don't understand how this team building stuff works!

There's no fooling you. If Lopez is here you don't find out if Hernangomez can play. There is a trade off there.

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4/19/2017  10:45 AM
holfresh wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
holfresh wrote:
MS wrote:Amazing watching Lopez control the glass and provide scoring against the best team in the east, while listening to our smug GM talk about the players we want in this organization like Ron Baker, after trading a center that played 82 games and just goes about his business, doesn't need shots and is a great team guy.

This was another huge zero for Phil. We have a lingering corpse in street clothes signed three more years, suspended and pretending to play.

Hard to imagine Phil pitching a plan, after trading for an injured guard to sign an injured center then praising that point guard as a premier scorer and then emasculating our best player during a press conference who scores the ball at a higher rate.

Robin would have been a great asset to trade to a contending team, but again Phil loves just giving away players for no return.

Control the glass with 8 rebounds..Come on...He hit some key open shots which is good..Noah deal bites the big one tho...

Rolo is really good at boxing out for other players. Bulls have been destroying the Celts on the boards in this series and Rolo has definitely been controlling the paint. Bulls have a lot of guards who swoop down for rebounds like Rondo and Butler and Wade.


KP always rebounded much better playing alongside Rolo.

Insane..AAAhhhhhhh..I showed playoff stats to refute this where Aldridge numbers went up in the playoffs when Rolo sat...KP rebounds the same...

Actually there were articles on this. I don't know if the trend continued all season but mid season (when the articles were written) KP's rebounding was WAY better with Rolo.

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4/19/2017  10:48 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:Imagine Robin on the knicks and how much better we were with him!!!!
Pair him with KP and Melo, and we'd be in the playoffs as the 8th seed up 2-0 on Celtics!!
How did that work?

Great point - we should trade a young healthy center for an older, injured center we can pay more!

Some people just don't understand how this team building stuff works!

Yeah, let's just give max contracts to every terrible player and trade away every good player so that we can keep getting lottery picks!

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4/19/2017  10:49 AM
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:Imagine Robin on the knicks and how much better we were with him!!!!
Pair him with KP and Melo, and we'd be in the playoffs as the 8th seed up 2-0 on Celtics!!
How did that work?

Great point - we should trade a young healthy center for an older, injured center we can pay more!

Some people just don't understand how this team building stuff works!

There's no fooling you. If Lopez is here you don't find out if Hernangomez can play. There is a trade off there.

That's fair. I'd feel better about the Rolo trade if Noah wasn't signed for three more years though. And there's no disputing that Rolo is the best defender of Willy, noah and he. A platoon of Rolo and Willy at center this year would've been nice. I guess thankfully Noah got injured so Willy could show his stuff the second half of the year? He's still a work in progress on D though.

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4/19/2017  10:50 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:Imagine Robin on the knicks and how much better we were with him!!!!
Pair him with KP and Melo, and we'd be in the playoffs as the 8th seed up 2-0 on Celtics!!
How did that work?

Great point - we should trade a young healthy center for an older, injured center we can pay more!

Some people just don't understand how this team building stuff works!

Yeah, let's just give max contracts to every terrible player and trade away every good player so that we can keep getting lottery picks!

That's how the Kings do it. And the Magic.

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4/19/2017  10:50 AM
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:Imagine Robin on the knicks and how much better we were with him!!!!
Pair him with KP and Melo, and we'd be in the playoffs as the 8th seed up 2-0 on Celtics!!
How did that work?

Great point - we should trade a young healthy center for an older, injured center we can pay more!

Some people just don't understand how this team building stuff works!

There's no fooling you. If Lopez is here you don't find out if Hernangomez can play. There is a trade off there.


Then trade Rolo for a player who is actually worth having - someone of equal value.
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4/19/2017  10:51 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:Imagine Robin on the knicks and how much better we were with him!!!!
Pair him with KP and Melo, and we'd be in the playoffs as the 8th seed up 2-0 on Celtics!!
How did that work?

Great point - we should trade a young healthy center for an older, injured center we can pay more!

Some people just don't understand how this team building stuff works!

Yeah, let's just give max contracts to every terrible player and trade away every good player so that we can keep getting lottery picks!

That's how the Kings do it. And the Magic.


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