Swishfm3 wrote:
Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser.This was, the infamous, TKF's signature when he used to post here...and I agree with it.
I am not against the draft or a rebuild but if an opportunity comes up where we can trade our pick for a young player that already has a couple of years in the league and has shown that he can handle the everyday rigors of the NBA, why not make that move?
I would rather trade my pick for a Wiggins then risk drafting a player like A.Bennett or D.Williams
Why not make that move?
BECAUSE THE TIMBERWOLVES WOULD NEVER EVER MAKE THAT TRADE.
The kind of trade the TWolve WOULD MAKE would be one that wasn't so lopsided in favor of the Knicks, in which case, the value would be far less, and the Knicks wouldn't want that alternate version of a deal anyway.
What part of this do you NOT UNDERSTAND
The same reason why you are saying the Knicks should want a trade like this IS THE EXACT SAME REASON THE TIMBERWOLVES WOULD NOT WANT TO MAKE THAT EXACT SAME TRADE.
A "good" and "feasible" trade scenario does not include any situation where the non Knicks franchise operates out of complete self interest simply to make the Knicks better. Translation - It's easy for Knicks fans to talk about what boils down to trade rape of another franchise, but if the other franchise's front office is going to immediately lose their jobs over it, those kind of one sided/lopsided deals will never ever happen.
Every NBA trade has to, at some level,
1) Be justifiable to the franchises owner or ownership group
2) Survive the scrutiny of public and fan perception
3) Be, at minimum, defensible in the media
4) Fall in line, in some fashion, to actual and current NBA "marketplace" informal values
5) The deal in place has to be the current BEST OVERALL OPTION OUT OF ALL POTENTIAL TRADE OFFERS AVAILABLE
Do NBA teams make stupid trades and signings. All the time, but you CANNOT RELY ON THEM. You also cannot bet on a deal proposed that is the equal to that GM basically putting a gun to his own head and pulling the trigger.
You keep saying, why not get an Andrew Wiggins instead of risking a pick on a Derrick Williams, without considering the TWolves are making that same conclusion themselves.
And IF the TWolves decided to trade Wiggins, could they get more than Rose and what might even be a Tier 1 lottery pick? Absolutely they can.
You are discussing a trade that
1) Defies actual and current NBA "marketplace values"
2) Is not defensible to the other teams ownership and fanbase and media scrutiny
3) Is not the best potential deal that the team could likely make
4) Where you give one of the major reasons yourself why the non Knicks team should not make the deal
You are literally trying to saddle a unicorn right now. In the world where this trade would happen, the sky is made of cotton candy and there are rivers of chocolate flowing everywhere. The street are paved with gold and every chicks looks like Ariana Grande and loves to give blowjobs.
Is the NBA draft a total crapshoot? Yes.
Here's the part you seem to refuse to accept.
For most teams, nearly all teams, except in some extreme circumstances, WHAT OTHER CHOICE IS THERE?
Rebuilding an NBA team is not like rebuilding a team in any other sport. How many 6'7 dudes are there in the world with the extreme athleticism to play the modern NBA game? In a talent pool so very thin, of course any rebuild is fraught with risk and ends up mostly in failure. That's due to talent scarcity, based on height dependency in the core player pool available.
Of course the Knicks should take a deal getting Wiggins for basically scrap and risk. But they would never get that deal. Just like Ariana Grande is not going to finish paving a street with gold after you or I unload our balls into her face. Not going to happen.
