smackeddog wrote:yellowboy90 wrote:smackeddog wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:nixluva wrote:StarksEwing1 wrote:nixluva wrote:HofstraBBall wrote:BTW. Crickets from all the Melo haters. I know your watching too. Better defense without KP. OK4 looks like a real center. And he has not even played. Knick fans would be raising a statute after the game if he was on the squad. Who can we pick up in 2019 to replace Melo? Guy is not afraid of the moment.
WOW!!! You really are LOST! I can't even understand what's going on inside your head. Melo hasn't led to the kind of winning we wanted and is 33 in a few months and we have a chance to draft a Kid that can run with KP and Willy for many years after Melo is gone. Who cares if Melo is an Elite scorer, when it hasn't helped us win!!! What the hell are you rooting for?
Its cool that he is a bigtime melo fan BUT i dont understand why he is dissing KP. Its not about hating or loving certain players its about building a team for longterm success. I actually think Melo has been really good for the most part but at 33 his career is getting to the end and it might be best for both sides to go in newer directions
To me it's beyond logic to be so enamoured with Melo that you can't see the forest for the trees. Melo is OVER and KP and whoever we draft is the FUTURE. We can't invest anymore time in Melo and his needs. This was Melo's last chance to do something and it fell flat. I LOVE Melo's shot making but what has that gotten us??? We've gone as far as we can and there's no way we can put the Vet players around Melo that we need to win a title. So it's time to move on and start preparing for the Future. Winning meaningless games with Melo hitting the big shot does NOTHING for this team.
NOTHING!!!
Sorry Nix. Always taught by my dad (a long time coach) to play your best, try to do everything, you can, to win, and in the end accept how things work out. Plyed my all the way through college that way. So I'll continue to root for them to win and for Melo and all Knicks to do well. You can continue to root for losses and a better draft pick. Ignoring the fact unless it's. Lottery pick they usually are all hype.
As for my solution, said it several timea. Accept what we have in Melo. A very good player that can still be special and wants to be here and in case you forgot....has a NTC! Keep adding some young EXPERIENCED NBA players on the rise, get rid of Rose and Noah, hire a young GM that can rid us of the bad stereotype we have and yes, continue to get lucky in draft and abroad. With Gaines help.
YOU CANNOT ADD YOUNG EXPERIENCED PLAYERS THROUGH FREE AGENCY BECAUSE OF RESTRICTED FREE AGENCY- please tell me how you do it?!?!? They get a rookie contract, then they either get extended or they become a RESTRICTED free agent- if they're any good why wouldn't their team match any offer? Do you have even the remotest understanding of the CBA?!
So essentially your strategy is build around 33 year old, declining Melo, while hoping you draft a magic player at the 14th spot. Brilliant.
Kyle O'quinn, Chandler Parsons, Cory Joseph, Mo Harkless, Harrsion Barnes, Bismack(char to Tor) Tobias Harris(trade)
KOQ is franchise changing talent? Your list proved my point- look at how much Harris and Bismark get and they are now both bench players for lottery teams. Harkless is also on a lottery team, and Chandler Parsons is horrific and on a horrific salary. So essentially you can land non-impact young experienced players if you max them out (and the reason their previous team didn't max them out is because they knew they weren't worth it or because they were declining due to injury).
I did not see anything about franchise changing talent but to answer your question No he is not in the traditional sense but he could be on the right team. Good rotational players can make or break you and can separate the good to great teams. So yes he could be considered a franchise changing talent.
Harris is 24 years old and his Salary decrease over the next two years. He will make $14.8m. ON top of that he has improved his efficiency the last 4 years while becoming a better overall player.
Re Bismack: There is a reason I had (char to Tor). It's because he signed a modest contract after his rookie deal was up in Charlotte. His rebounding and finishing ability had really picked up his last two years in Charlotte and a team with decent cap space could have offered him a MLE type deal for 3-4 years.
Harkless maybe on a lottery team now but he is also young and improving. The guy is only 23 y/o. He is the type of guy you try to get with Clee money because of his defense and age. The real key would've have been trading for him when Orl was giving him away. You have to keep your eye out for young players that play close to 2000 minutes and show promise. Harkless showed promise his 1st tw years then was out the rotation in Orl. Orl is not a great franchise so you have to take advantage of teams like that.
Re Parsons:
Parsons has looked awful but he was still a young player when he left Houston and had two good years for Dallas even though he missed time.
you ask for young and experience and I gave you young players who played in all types of roles that had experience and left their situations. Tobias and Maurice are a stretch but Orlando was looking for a reason not to give him the money and as soon as Scott Skiles was the coach you should have known Tobias was going to be gone.
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