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2/24/2017  8:56 PM
EnY. thanknyou for articulating what so many think dude should go. He's -64 in a Knick uniform. Time to finish in NY and GO
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2/24/2017  9:01 PM
I felt Hil was gonna pay for Rubio cuz he knew Melo would play w c Paul before he'd play w Rubio which I felt worth it as Rubio wouldnmentor whoever eventually.
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2/24/2017  10:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2017  10:23 PM
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MS wrote:Let's take a quick step back here.

So the GM publically disrespects him. Tweets about him being selfish and devalues his player at every turn. He's lost every trade he's made miserably.

10-11 - 26.3pts 6.7rbs 3.0 ass 46%
11-12 - 22.6pts 6.3rbs 3.6ass 43%
12-13 - 28.7pts 6.9rbs 2.6ass 45%
13-14 - 27.4pts 8.1rbs 3.1ass 45%
14-15 - 24.2pts 6.6pts 3.1ass 44%
15-16 - 21.8pts 7.7rbs 4.2ass 43%
16-17 - 23.3pts 6.0rbs 3.0ass 44%

He's played well here. Has he won. No. But, who has in the last 15 years. Jim Dolan is nightmare and free agents don't want to play here. Too much pressure, to many taxes, to many inept coaches and the worst management in the NBA.

The GM gave the worst contract out of the entire offseason and we lost a max slot because of it. It's ok for him to question the organization after they just dragged him through the mud.

Stop Making Sense!!!


Melo also has the highest usage% in the league for a non guard every year. Go look... he's always in the top 10 in the league and top 2 or 3 for non guards. He literally has held the ball longer than anyone in the NBA over that time. So one can show his pts/rebs/assists and say he's been productive, but he hasnt. We have run the ball through him over and over and the record stinks. Biggest failure was the Bargs deal. Knicks have done a very poor job putting players around Melo. We got the one good year. He quit on MDA. I let it go after watching what he did with Woodson but Im pretty sure he quit on Phil also.

Quit is the wrong word. He stopped working at it.

What's missing in this discussion is the fact that these comments basically throw the rest of the team under the proverbial bus. This is Melo saying I can't fly with eagles when surrounded by turkeys". Like so many of you, I feel Melo can't leave soon enough. He simply doesn't belong on the court anymore.

And anybody who is pointing a finger at Phil needs therapy. NOTHING Phil has said or done is a surprise to anyone but a basketball idiot. Phil isn't even speaking the truth, he's just saying the obvious. Melo is a poseur.

The basketball being played by our highest paid players is pathological. Watching the Cavs game was like watching any of the last thirty losses. Knicks go under by 12-20 points and exchange baskets for the second half. Melo in the fourth is no more effective than a towel waver. ITS UNWATCHABLE AND INEXCUSABLE. Bench these mofos - send him to the D_League until he learns to pass the ball.

And let's not kid ourselves about the NTC - it has nothing to do with loyalty or basketball. This is all about business. Mail in the basketball and tend to being a venture capitalist on the side. That's why MELO "loves" NY. That's why Durant is with Golden State. That's why Jordan wants to stay close to Ballmer. The game is secondary to MONEY.

Dolan is criticized only because he has a modest lifestyle - play guitar, have some fun, spend whatever is necessary to win. But for these high-roller investment banker players that doesn't cut it - they want to schmooze with tycoons.

This is all on Melo [and Rose]. Get with the program or just bench them.

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2/24/2017  10:26 PM
And as far as I'm concerned, Porzingis is suffering from Stockhausen syndrome by constantly expressing sympathy for his captor, Melo. Porzingis needs to cut bait, enough is enough.
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2/24/2017  10:45 PM
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MS wrote:Let's take a quick step back here.

So the GM publically disrespects him. Tweets about him being selfish and devalues his player at every turn. He's lost every trade he's made miserably.

10-11 - 26.3pts 6.7rbs 3.0 ass 46%
11-12 - 22.6pts 6.3rbs 3.6ass 43%
12-13 - 28.7pts 6.9rbs 2.6ass 45%
13-14 - 27.4pts 8.1rbs 3.1ass 45%
14-15 - 24.2pts 6.6pts 3.1ass 44%
15-16 - 21.8pts 7.7rbs 4.2ass 43%
16-17 - 23.3pts 6.0rbs 3.0ass 44%

He's played well here. Has he won. No. But, who has in the last 15 years. Jim Dolan is nightmare and free agents don't want to play here. Too much pressure, to many taxes, to many inept coaches and the worst management in the NBA.

The GM gave the worst contract out of the entire offseason and we lost a max slot because of it. It's ok for him to question the organization after they just dragged him through the mud.

Stop Making Sense!!!


Melo also has the highest usage% in the league for a non guard every year. Go look... he's always in the top 10 in the league and top 2 or 3 for non guards. He literally has held the ball longer than anyone in the NBA over that time. So one can show his pts/rebs/assists and say he's been productive, but he hasnt. We have run the ball through him over and over and the record stinks. Biggest failure was the Bargs deal. Knicks have done a very poor job putting players around Melo. We got the one good year. He quit on MDA. I let it go after watching what he did with Woodson but Im pretty sure he quit on Phil also.

How is his EFG% compared to other high usage players? Are Derozan, Wade, Wall, Westbrook not better players than Melo? How do they rank in EFG compared to Melo? And your forgetting one thing, Melo has not had a guard since JKid. He has been his own. Love when guys bring up usage rate like its a bad word but don't know the different measures that go into it. Specially when you take the best player on a ****ty team who happens to be a post up player.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats?category=ADVANCED&team=0

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2/24/2017  10:55 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MS wrote:Let's take a quick step back here.

So the GM publically disrespects him. Tweets about him being selfish and devalues his player at every turn. He's lost every trade he's made miserably.

10-11 - 26.3pts 6.7rbs 3.0 ass 46%
11-12 - 22.6pts 6.3rbs 3.6ass 43%
12-13 - 28.7pts 6.9rbs 2.6ass 45%
13-14 - 27.4pts 8.1rbs 3.1ass 45%
14-15 - 24.2pts 6.6pts 3.1ass 44%
15-16 - 21.8pts 7.7rbs 4.2ass 43%
16-17 - 23.3pts 6.0rbs 3.0ass 44%

He's played well here. Has he won. No. But, who has in the last 15 years. Jim Dolan is nightmare and free agents don't want to play here. Too much pressure, to many taxes, to many inept coaches and the worst management in the NBA.

The GM gave the worst contract out of the entire offseason and we lost a max slot because of it. It's ok for him to question the organization after they just dragged him through the mud.

Stop Making Sense!!!


Melo also has the highest usage% in the league for a non guard every year. Go look... he's always in the top 10 in the league and top 2 or 3 for non guards. He literally has held the ball longer than anyone in the NBA over that time. So one can show his pts/rebs/assists and say he's been productive, but he hasnt. We have run the ball through him over and over and the record stinks. Biggest failure was the Bargs deal. Knicks have done a very poor job putting players around Melo. We got the one good year. He quit on MDA. I let it go after watching what he did with Woodson but Im pretty sure he quit on Phil also.

How is his EFG% compared to other high usage players? Are Derozan, Wade, Wall, Westbrook not better players than Melo? How do they rank in EFG compared to Melo? And your forgetting one thing, Melo has not had a guard since JKid. He has been his own. Love when guys bring up usage rate like its a bad word but don't know the different measures that go into it. Specially when you take the best player on a ****ty team who happens to be a post up player.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats?category=ADVANCED&team=0

There is a big difference in the passing when you compare 2s and 3s. You would be better trying to use p.George, Kawai, and other high usg 3s. The problem with Melo is that his efficiency is to low to not pass the ball more. George and Leonard passes the ball a little more and those two guys still have a higher TS%. Now if Melo was getting to the line 8-10 times a game he would be good but he is not.

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2/25/2017  10:24 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MS wrote:Let's take a quick step back here.

So the GM publically disrespects him. Tweets about him being selfish and devalues his player at every turn. He's lost every trade he's made miserably.

10-11 - 26.3pts 6.7rbs 3.0 ass 46%
11-12 - 22.6pts 6.3rbs 3.6ass 43%
12-13 - 28.7pts 6.9rbs 2.6ass 45%
13-14 - 27.4pts 8.1rbs 3.1ass 45%
14-15 - 24.2pts 6.6pts 3.1ass 44%
15-16 - 21.8pts 7.7rbs 4.2ass 43%
16-17 - 23.3pts 6.0rbs 3.0ass 44%

He's played well here. Has he won. No. But, who has in the last 15 years. Jim Dolan is nightmare and free agents don't want to play here. Too much pressure, to many taxes, to many inept coaches and the worst management in the NBA.

The GM gave the worst contract out of the entire offseason and we lost a max slot because of it. It's ok for him to question the organization after they just dragged him through the mud.

Stop Making Sense!!!


Melo also has the highest usage% in the league for a non guard every year. Go look... he's always in the top 10 in the league and top 2 or 3 for non guards. He literally has held the ball longer than anyone in the NBA over that time. So one can show his pts/rebs/assists and say he's been productive, but he hasnt. We have run the ball through him over and over and the record stinks. Biggest failure was the Bargs deal. Knicks have done a very poor job putting players around Melo. We got the one good year. He quit on MDA. I let it go after watching what he did with Woodson but Im pretty sure he quit on Phil also.

How is his EFG% compared to other high usage players? Are Derozan, Wade, Wall, Westbrook not better players than Melo? How do they rank in EFG compared to Melo? And your forgetting one thing, Melo has not had a guard since JKid. He has been his own. Love when guys bring up usage rate like its a bad word but don't know the different measures that go into it. Specially when you take the best player on a ****ty team who happens to be a post up player.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats?category=ADVANCED&team=0

There is a big difference in the passing when you compare 2s and 3s. You would be better trying to use p.George, Kawai, and other high usg 3s. The problem with Melo is that his efficiency is to low to not pass the ball more. George and Leonard passes the ball a little more and those two guys still have a higher TS%. Now if Melo was getting to the line 8-10 times a game he would be good but he is not.

Refs as any normal people hate dudes with entitlements.
And they can do something about it - not make calls when Melo is hacked.
It is mostly subconscious.
Melo can be effective if he will play with PG who plays with authority and will go to melo ONLY when Melo will put himself in good position.
It can be point forward like Bron too. He will make Melo to play the right way or roam around without touches.
Not sure if Melo will like it zo.

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2/25/2017  10:39 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2017  10:42 AM
Paris907 wrote:EnY. thanknyou for articulating what so many think dude should go. He's -64 in a Knick uniform. Time to finish in NY and GO

The thing about Melo is not that he's a bad player
He's a good player
He's just in the wrong role

He wants a role he can not succeed in
He wants to be the man in Ny

He needs to be a second option.

Problem is we won't get a talent who will push Melo to be the 2nd best player.
If we could speed up KPs development and say he was 24, I could see things work.
If we could sign a point guard like CP3 or Curry this summer, again could work.

None of that is happening

We will draft another lottery talent who needs patience and time to develop while confidence and opportunities. These things and Melo's goals are mutually exclusive. Say we draft a point guard in the draft. How much freedom will he get playing side Melo? He will not have the freedom to run the team. We are at cross roads. Either trade KP and the lotto pick and build a defensive team all in around Melo. Or trade Melo. I think it's foolish to trade KP and the lotto pick. We should consider moving Melo instead.

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2/25/2017  10:43 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MS wrote:Let's take a quick step back here.

So the GM publically disrespects him. Tweets about him being selfish and devalues his player at every turn. He's lost every trade he's made miserably.

10-11 - 26.3pts 6.7rbs 3.0 ass 46%
11-12 - 22.6pts 6.3rbs 3.6ass 43%
12-13 - 28.7pts 6.9rbs 2.6ass 45%
13-14 - 27.4pts 8.1rbs 3.1ass 45%
14-15 - 24.2pts 6.6pts 3.1ass 44%
15-16 - 21.8pts 7.7rbs 4.2ass 43%
16-17 - 23.3pts 6.0rbs 3.0ass 44%

He's played well here. Has he won. No. But, who has in the last 15 years. Jim Dolan is nightmare and free agents don't want to play here. Too much pressure, to many taxes, to many inept coaches and the worst management in the NBA.

The GM gave the worst contract out of the entire offseason and we lost a max slot because of it. It's ok for him to question the organization after they just dragged him through the mud.

Stop Making Sense!!!


Melo also has the highest usage% in the league for a non guard every year. Go look... he's always in the top 10 in the league and top 2 or 3 for non guards. He literally has held the ball longer than anyone in the NBA over that time. So one can show his pts/rebs/assists and say he's been productive, but he hasnt. We have run the ball through him over and over and the record stinks. Biggest failure was the Bargs deal. Knicks have done a very poor job putting players around Melo. We got the one good year. He quit on MDA. I let it go after watching what he did with Woodson but Im pretty sure he quit on Phil also.

How is his EFG% compared to other high usage players? Are Derozan, Wade, Wall, Westbrook not better players than Melo? How do they rank in EFG compared to Melo? And your forgetting one thing, Melo has not had a guard since JKid. He has been his own. Love when guys bring up usage rate like its a bad word but don't know the different measures that go into it. Specially when you take the best player on a ****ty team who happens to be a post up player.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats?category=ADVANCED&team=0

There is a big difference in the passing when you compare 2s and 3s. You would be better trying to use p.George, Kawai, and other high usg 3s. The problem with Melo is that his efficiency is to low to not pass the ball more. George and Leonard passes the ball a little more and those two guys still have a higher TS%. Now if Melo was getting to the line 8-10 times a game he would be good but he is not.

Who are the starting PG's for George and Leonard? Do you think they are better at getting thone players the ball in better shooting positions? I do. Have you seen how easy it looks when we run Melo off a pick? KP off a pick? That takes good PG play and a system that calls it.

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2/25/2017  11:59 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/25/2017  12:01 PM
nyknickzingis wrote:
Paris907 wrote:EnY. thanknyou for articulating what so many think dude should go. He's -64 in a Knick uniform. Time to finish in NY and GO

The thing about Melo is not that he's a bad player
He's a good player
He's just in the wrong role

He wants a role he can not succeed in
He wants to be the man in Ny

He needs to be a second option.

Problem is we won't get a talent who will push Melo to be the 2nd best player.
If we could speed up KPs development and say he was 24, I could see things work.
If we could sign a point guard like CP3 or Curry this summer, again could work.

None of that is happening

We will draft another lottery talent who needs patience and time to develop while confidence and opportunities. These things and Melo's goals are mutually exclusive. Say we draft a point guard in the draft. How much freedom will he get playing side Melo? He will not have the freedom to run the team. We are at cross roads. Either trade KP and the lotto pick and build a defensive team all in around Melo. Or trade Melo. I think it's foolish to trade KP and the lotto pick. We should consider moving Melo instead.

That's the awkward thing about this. Melo still thinks he's elite... he is but not the way he once was. We're not going to sell the farm to satisfy a 33 year old Melo. If he's going to be here he has to humble himself into a team friendly role. Melo wants to take his shots and hold the ball. That's not going to work. That's what all this garbage is about. Melo is fighting to stay here cuz he doesn't want to leave.... but he has to leave because it doesn't make sense to build around youth with a guy that doesn't pass the ball. It's just madness.

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2/25/2017  12:14 PM
fwk00 wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Uptown wrote:
MS wrote:Let's take a quick step back here.

So the GM publically disrespects him. Tweets about him being selfish and devalues his player at every turn. He's lost every trade he's made miserably.

10-11 - 26.3pts 6.7rbs 3.0 ass 46%
11-12 - 22.6pts 6.3rbs 3.6ass 43%
12-13 - 28.7pts 6.9rbs 2.6ass 45%
13-14 - 27.4pts 8.1rbs 3.1ass 45%
14-15 - 24.2pts 6.6pts 3.1ass 44%
15-16 - 21.8pts 7.7rbs 4.2ass 43%
16-17 - 23.3pts 6.0rbs 3.0ass 44%

He's played well here. Has he won. No. But, who has in the last 15 years. Jim Dolan is nightmare and free agents don't want to play here. Too much pressure, to many taxes, to many inept coaches and the worst management in the NBA.

The GM gave the worst contract out of the entire offseason and we lost a max slot because of it. It's ok for him to question the organization after they just dragged him through the mud.

Stop Making Sense!!!


Melo also has the highest usage% in the league for a non guard every year. Go look... he's always in the top 10 in the league and top 2 or 3 for non guards. He literally has held the ball longer than anyone in the NBA over that time. So one can show his pts/rebs/assists and say he's been productive, but he hasnt. We have run the ball through him over and over and the record stinks. Biggest failure was the Bargs deal. Knicks have done a very poor job putting players around Melo. We got the one good year. He quit on MDA. I let it go after watching what he did with Woodson but Im pretty sure he quit on Phil also.

Quit is the wrong word. He stopped working at it.

What's missing in this discussion is the fact that these comments basically throw the rest of the team under the proverbial bus. This is Melo saying I can't fly with eagles when surrounded by turkeys". Like so many of you, I feel Melo can't leave soon enough. He simply doesn't belong on the court anymore.

And anybody who is pointing a finger at Phil needs therapy. NOTHING Phil has said or done is a surprise to anyone but a basketball idiot. Phil isn't even speaking the truth, he's just saying the obvious. Melo is a poseur.

The basketball being played by our highest paid players is pathological. Watching the Cavs game was like watching any of the last thirty losses. Knicks go under by 12-20 points and exchange baskets for the second half. Melo in the fourth is no more effective than a towel waver. ITS UNWATCHABLE AND INEXCUSABLE. Bench these mofos - send him to the D_League until he learns to pass the ball.

And let's not kid ourselves about the NTC - it has nothing to do with loyalty or basketball. This is all about business. Mail in the basketball and tend to being a venture capitalist on the side. That's why MELO "loves" NY. That's why Durant is with Golden State. That's why Jordan wants to stay close to Ballmer. The game is secondary to MONEY.

Dolan is criticized only because he has a modest lifestyle - play guitar, have some fun, spend whatever is necessary to win. But for these high-roller investment banker players that doesn't cut it - they want to schmooze with tycoons.

This is all on Melo [and Rose]. Get with the program or just bench them.

These two career losers are not going to get with the program. They have made a whole career of putting their own interests ahead of everything.

Just look at all the drama this guy created because Phil tweeted the TRUTH about him in the media. Then he goes and talks about not knowing the vision in the media? Did he ask the front office to share their vision and meet with him, before going to the media and taking a dump on them. NOPE

Also the same set of fans that mercilessly attacked Phil for tweeting completely ignore Melo going to press with his gripes instead of talking to the front office. This is the type of fan base that has destroyed this sport. They care more about ALL STAR appearances than they do about basketball.

Time to move on, the irrelevant players and their impotent fans will continue their barrage of hatred towards the team, that's on them.

I am very happy we didn't make any trades just to make trades. If Melo won't waive his NTC he can sit on bench with Rose. Not saying it would matter to either of them, but I doubt Hornacek has the balls to make that call. But letting rose walk and making sure we keep our picks are the two best decisions we could have made.

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2/25/2017  1:24 PM
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nyknickzingis wrote:
Paris907 wrote:EnY. thanknyou for articulating what so many think dude should go. He's -64 in a Knick uniform. Time to finish in NY and GO

The thing about Melo is not that he's a bad player
He's a good player
He's just in the wrong role

He wants a role he can not succeed in
He wants to be the man in Ny

He needs to be a second option.

Problem is we won't get a talent who will push Melo to be the 2nd best player.
If we could speed up KPs development and say he was 24, I could see things work.
If we could sign a point guard like CP3 or Curry this summer, again could work.

None of that is happening

We will draft another lottery talent who needs patience and time to develop while confidence and opportunities. These things and Melo's goals are mutually exclusive. Say we draft a point guard in the draft. How much freedom will he get playing side Melo? He will not have the freedom to run the team. We are at cross roads. Either trade KP and the lotto pick and build a defensive team all in around Melo. Or trade Melo. I think it's foolish to trade KP and the lotto pick. We should consider moving Melo instead.

That's the awkward thing about this. Melo still thinks he's elite... he is but not the way he once was. We're not going to sell the farm to satisfy a 33 year old Melo. If he's going to be here he has to humble himself into a team friendly role. Melo wants to take his shots and hold the ball. That's not going to work. That's what all this garbage is about. Melo is fighting to stay here cuz he doesn't want to leave.... but he has to leave because it doesn't make sense to build around youth with a guy that doesn't pass the ball. It's just madness.

Melo is playing smug because of his NTC but what he is blind to is the damage he is self-inflicting on himself and the team. If he is still here next year he will be one of the most hated figures in all of sport, bad for his legacy, brand and future aspirations. In a word the an is an idiot.

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2/25/2017  1:46 PM
I no longer care if Melo stays or goes. What I would like to see is less minutes for Melo reduction of role on the team. 10 shot limit implementation. The team now must focus on other taking shots.
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2/25/2017  2:40 PM
fwk00 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
Paris907 wrote:EnY. thanknyou for articulating what so many think dude should go. He's -64 in a Knick uniform. Time to finish in NY and GO

The thing about Melo is not that he's a bad player
He's a good player
He's just in the wrong role

He wants a role he can not succeed in
He wants to be the man in Ny

He needs to be a second option.

Problem is we won't get a talent who will push Melo to be the 2nd best player.
If we could speed up KPs development and say he was 24, I could see things work.
If we could sign a point guard like CP3 or Curry this summer, again could work.

None of that is happening

We will draft another lottery talent who needs patience and time to develop while confidence and opportunities. These things and Melo's goals are mutually exclusive. Say we draft a point guard in the draft. How much freedom will he get playing side Melo? He will not have the freedom to run the team. We are at cross roads. Either trade KP and the lotto pick and build a defensive team all in around Melo. Or trade Melo. I think it's foolish to trade KP and the lotto pick. We should consider moving Melo instead.

That's the awkward thing about this. Melo still thinks he's elite... he is but not the way he once was. We're not going to sell the farm to satisfy a 33 year old Melo. If he's going to be here he has to humble himself into a team friendly role. Melo wants to take his shots and hold the ball. That's not going to work. That's what all this garbage is about. Melo is fighting to stay here cuz he doesn't want to leave.... but he has to leave because it doesn't make sense to build around youth with a guy that doesn't pass the ball. It's just madness.

Melo is playing smug because of his NTC but what he is blind to is the damage he is self-inflicting on himself and the team. If he is still here next year he will be one of the most hated figures in all of sport, bad for his legacy, brand and future aspirations. In a word the an is an idiot.

It would only be bad if the team continues to be mismanaged. You could make the argument that if he is still in NY the team is being mismanaged. But Phil has been a disaster. He can't even get his teams back to the 37 win mark that they were at when the roster was 'clumsy'.
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2/25/2017  4:34 PM
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fwk00 wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
nyknickzingis wrote:
Paris907 wrote:EnY. thanknyou for articulating what so many think dude should go. He's -64 in a Knick uniform. Time to finish in NY and GO

The thing about Melo is not that he's a bad player
He's a good player
He's just in the wrong role

He wants a role he can not succeed in
He wants to be the man in Ny

He needs to be a second option.

Problem is we won't get a talent who will push Melo to be the 2nd best player.
If we could speed up KPs development and say he was 24, I could see things work.
If we could sign a point guard like CP3 or Curry this summer, again could work.

None of that is happening

We will draft another lottery talent who needs patience and time to develop while confidence and opportunities. These things and Melo's goals are mutually exclusive. Say we draft a point guard in the draft. How much freedom will he get playing side Melo? He will not have the freedom to run the team. We are at cross roads. Either trade KP and the lotto pick and build a defensive team all in around Melo. Or trade Melo. I think it's foolish to trade KP and the lotto pick. We should consider moving Melo instead.

That's the awkward thing about this. Melo still thinks he's elite... he is but not the way he once was. We're not going to sell the farm to satisfy a 33 year old Melo. If he's going to be here he has to humble himself into a team friendly role. Melo wants to take his shots and hold the ball. That's not going to work. That's what all this garbage is about. Melo is fighting to stay here cuz he doesn't want to leave.... but he has to leave because it doesn't make sense to build around youth with a guy that doesn't pass the ball. It's just madness.

Melo is playing smug because of his NTC but what he is blind to is the damage he is self-inflicting on himself and the team. If he is still here next year he will be one of the most hated figures in all of sport, bad for his legacy, brand and future aspirations. In a word the an is an idiot.

It would only be bad if the team continues to be mismanaged. You could make the argument that if he is still in NY the team is being mismanaged. But Phil has been a disaster. He can't even get his teams back to the 37 win mark that they were at when the roster was 'clumsy'.

You are missing the point if you think Phil is mismanaging. Phil has a set of goals. The first was to surround Melo with enough to make the playoffs. He did that but they didn't deliver.

The second goal was to build a youth movement around Porzingis and he did that too. But I don't think anyone was under the illusion that a half and half team was going far unless the chemistry was absolute magic.

Its obvious that the Melo half is done. Only remnants will remain after this summer. I think we'll see the team expand to a full build around the youngsters.

a few weeks ago Dolan was asked about Melo and the closing remark was something to the effect that if he stays fine and if he goes we wish him well. Dolan has cut bait with Melo.

Melo is frustrated 🤔

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