Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I've had enough of his bad shot selection non passing and not using his size for things they need to be used for Until he plays the right way he should come off the bench. He's a bad starter right now

Im very disappointed in his play this year, I would move him if we could back a legitimate number 1 player. I believe he has been poisoned by melo, Rose and the toxic environment

Trade him? Are we really at that point? Lol. Might be the most outrageous statement in the history of this forum, I hate to say. Homegrown talent. 2nd year player. Let's trade him smh.

I would trade him in the right deal, the chances of finding that are pretty slim

How about for an aging superstar? Seems like we are ready for that. I will say something, this thread in general and some of the opinions in it are something only knicks fans would say.

Like for Chris Paul... If Isiah was around... it will be no-brainer...

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I've had enough of his bad shot selection non passing and not using his size for things they need to be used for Until he plays the right way he should come off the bench. He's a bad starter right now

Im very disappointed in his play this year, I would move him if we could back a legitimate number 1 player. I believe he has been poisoned by melo, Rose and the toxic environment

Trade him? Are we really at that point? Lol. Might be the most outrageous statement in the history of this forum, I hate to say. Homegrown talent. 2nd year player. Let's trade him smh.

Definitely in the running for stupidest comment ever on this forum. Sheesh! (smh2)

smackeddog wrote:

arkrud wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I've had enough of his bad shot selection non passing and not using his size for things they need to be used for Until he plays the right way he should come off the bench. He's a bad starter right now

Im very disappointed in his play this year, I would move him if we could back a legitimate number 1 player. I believe he has been poisoned by melo, Rose and the toxic environment

Trade him? Are we really at that point? Lol. Might be the most outrageous statement in the history of this forum, I hate to say. Homegrown talent. 2nd year player. Let's trade him smh.

I would trade him in the right deal, the chances of finding that are pretty slim

How about for an aging superstar? Seems like we are ready for that. I will say something, this thread in general and some of the opinions in it are something only knicks fans would say.

Like for Chris Paul... If Isiah was around... it will be no-brainer...

Come on now, Isaiah would have traded him for Rose!

Or Howard? Superman in NY... Imagine this!!!

Dec. 2016 - This should be KPs team, Melo needs to step aside.
Jan. 2017 - We need to bench and/or trade KP.
Feb. 2017 - We need to offer a max extension to KP to make sure he never leaves the Knicks.

Get a point guard who is an actual Point Guard. Stick with one offensive philosophy (the coach's), Mgmt needs to decide wether its going to be another desperate quick fix to make a little noise in the playoffs, or are they going to commit to a long term rebuilding plan around Porzingis.

Martin posted some stats about KP's numbers so far in relation to some of the greats and its quite remarkable. This shouldn't get lost in all the dsyfunction around the Knicks, and KP's struggles.

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

martin wrote:Feel like KP's shooting will come back. Seems like he hasn't hit a bank shot since November and that is troubling. But there are 2 areas of effort that I don't like: his screens suck; he is barely impeding the player he is trying to pick, and I know that some times is a quick screen to a roll, but KP has got to get a little more contact and separation with the opposing player. And the switching, wtf is up with the most casual, unnecessary switching? I hope that is something that just needs to be pointed out to him and not a bad habit learned from other bad switchers.

The switching I think he got from Melo. Also, his success against defending quick PGs in the past has gotten to his head. He is forgetting that it puts his teammate in a bad matchup.

His shot is way flat. He looks like he is shooting it down. A line drive shot. He needs to give it more arc.

His screens are correctable. He thinks every screen is a slip screen.

100% agreed

When did they put Melo in charge of the defense?

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

martin wrote:Feel like KP's shooting will come back. Seems like he hasn't hit a bank shot since November and that is troubling. But there are 2 areas of effort that I don't like: his screens suck; he is barely impeding the player he is trying to pick, and I know that some times is a quick screen to a roll, but KP has got to get a little more contact and separation with the opposing player. And the switching, wtf is up with the most casual, unnecessary switching? I hope that is something that just needs to be pointed out to him and not a bad habit learned from other bad switchers.

The switching I think he got from Melo. Also, his success against defending quick PGs in the past has gotten to his head. He is forgetting that it puts his teammate in a bad matchup.

His shot is way flat. He looks like he is shooting it down. A line drive shot. He needs to give it more arc.

His screens are correctable. He thinks every screen is a slip screen.

100% agreed

When did they put Melo in charge of the defense?

Haven't you heard, Melo is at fault for everything wrong with KP. So far I saw posts that it was Melo's fault he was taking too many 3pt. shots. Makes sense, It's not like he was drafted because of his ability to do so. Leaving guys open at 3pt. line, when trying to block shots in paint, Melo. Lack of post up success...Melo. Missing shots, clearly Melo yelling. Lack of weight gain..Melo feeding him salads. Okay, maybe not the weight one but check the boards, you will see the rest.

Do agree about switching without needing to. PG may be at fault a bit as well. After all, if he fights through pick strongly, KP can continue to guard his man. The one that does not make sense is leaving stretch 4's open to help. As he has been burned many times and is probably something the staff has told him. THink it is just a product of habit. And the fact a nice block in the paint brings more of a reaction from the crowd than staying with your man at 3pt. line.

NYKBocker wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

martin wrote:Feel like KP's shooting will come back. Seems like he hasn't hit a bank shot since November and that is troubling. But there are 2 areas of effort that I don't like: his screens suck; he is barely impeding the player he is trying to pick, and I know that some times is a quick screen to a roll, but KP has got to get a little more contact and separation with the opposing player. And the switching, wtf is up with the most casual, unnecessary switching? I hope that is something that just needs to be pointed out to him and not a bad habit learned from other bad switchers.

The switching I think he got from Melo. Also, his success against defending quick PGs in the past has gotten to his head. He is forgetting that it puts his teammate in a bad matchup.

His shot is way flat. He looks like he is shooting it down. A line drive shot. He needs to give it more arc.

His screens are correctable. He thinks every screen is a slip screen.

100% agreed

When did they put Melo in charge of the defense?

Melo is the leader of this team. The team follows what he does. Even if Melo doesn't tell him to do it, KP sees it and plays the same way. I am not disparaging Melo just saying that he tends to copy what he sees and Melo is his mentor right now. I love how Melo protects KP and how he is always looking for him. The Woodson defensive tendencies is still there

The leader of this team has been a step slow on offense and defense this season. His shoulder has been bothering him as well, which makes it harder to fight through screens. Porzingis knows this, he's been playing pro ball long enough to know how that would affect his game. But you are suggesting that he's ignoring the reasons for the dip defensively from last season, and just imitating him? I dont see him being that type of player.

This team has been bad defensively across the board, thank Rambis, not Melo.

MS wrote:It's actually not a bad idea. It allows Melo and Rose to carry the first unit and KP to play 30 minutes with the second unit.

Rose, Holiday, Kuz, Melo, Noah - Jennings, Lee, KP, Willy, KOQ

We need more balance.

The balance is taking KP out half way thru the 1st quarter and returning at the beginning of the 2nd quarter. You can't bring your young, franchise player off the bench, unless you want to be the laughing stock of the league more than you already are.

Vmart wrote:

Papabear wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I've had enough of his bad shot selection non passing and not using his size for things they need to be used for Until he plays the right way he should come off the bench. He's a bad starter right now

Im very disappointed in his play this year, I would move him if we could back a legitimate number 1 player. I believe he has been poisoned by melo, Rose and the toxic environment

Papabear Says

I new sooner or later some of you guys wanted to throw KP under the bus. But blaming Melo!! COME ON MAN

Only the fans get thrown under the bus. These guys are gonna laugh all the way to the bank. I just don't understand what the Knicks are trying to accomplish by making KP a small 7'3 player. He should be eating up the painted area.

He tries eating up the painted area and fails pretty much every time and it's on him to make himself better in the paint. Get a hook shot or take some of Billy's dream shaker moves and use them but i think he just thinks too much when he gets in the paint and too much thinking isn't always a good thing.