WaltLongmire wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:When did Melo has been scoring very efficiently and tonight I only notice a couple of bad defensive moments. One was in the 4th were he fell asleep ball watching and was late to close but the Pavers missed the 3. Overall a decent defensive effort trying to help in the post while making sure his man was still were he left him

You take away those 4 bad shots at end of 3rd, which he does when left in too long, and 2 end of shot clock 3's, he had to take. He is 9 for 11. Liked that he went down low at end. Must of heard me yelling.

It is always about shot selection with Anthony, but he is rarely getting open shots created by others except for 3 point shots.

HofstraBBall wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

stopstandthere wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

Chandler wrote:Why does Melo think that's funny?

Frustration laugh...you do it instead of going crazy...I do it all the time.

Yes, that is a mature way of reaction as a grown man.

I do it still. It is kind of a defense mechanism- if you put your face into a smile you stay cool. Nothing to do with not taking something seriously.

He was laughing becasue he knew he would be hitting the MOFO game winner. lol

crzymdups wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

matt wrote:Why nobody pass to kristaps.

because he doesn't demand the ball, he waits until they notice him open

PGs get the ball to the open man...should be no need to demand it...sorry.

Wake me up when we have a real pg again

For real. It would make all the difference.

Walt is right that KP shouldn't have to demand the ball. At the same time he should send a message to Rose that he's tired of not getting any touches.

If I were KP and I got tired of being frozen out, I would do my level best to embarass Rose in practice, no cheaps shots. Put a little mustard on those blocks. Might respect that more than asking him to share the rock. Eventually he'll get the message.

I cant think of a worse move than bringing back Rose so he can call his own number ad nauseum.

KP took 5 less shots than Rose and Rose played 40 Minutes and KP 24. But agree, a true PG would greatly help KP's game. Specially cuz he would be yelling at KP to cut more off PnR's.

I saw Jrue Holiday highlights tonight and was hoping and praying we get a crack at him this summer.

Holiday was one of the guys I liked in that draft...they asked him in twice that year but didn't pull the trigger on him.

Would like Phil to consider him.

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:When did Melo has been scoring very efficiently and tonight I only notice a couple of bad defensive moments. One was in the 4th were he fell asleep ball watching and was late to close but the Pavers missed the 3. Overall a decent defensive effort trying to help in the post while making sure his man was still were he left him

You take away those 4 bad shots at end of 3rd, which he does when left in too long, and 2 end of shot clock 3's, he had to take. He is 9 for 11. Liked that he went down low at end. Must of heard me yelling.

It is always about shot selection with Anthony, but he is rarely getting open shots created by others except for 3 point shots.

When the team stagnates like that..Have Melo run pick and rolls at the top of the key..Make him pass and create for others..He is a good passer...

I agree with this and why I think he should rest earlier in the 3rd so he can close out 4ths strong. Tonight he got to rest a long time to start the 4th and he had energy to play in the post late.

If he has his legs there is zero reason why Jennings and Rose should close late which helps the defense because Lee and Holiday can play the wings while Melo and Rose/Jennings handle the PnR duties up top. I know this would be hard but I would also keep reminding Melo to never bring the ball up the court just wait to receive it after a screen when it gets pass halfcourt.

yellowboy90 wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:When did Melo has been scoring very efficiently and tonight I only notice a couple of bad defensive moments. One was in the 4th were he fell asleep ball watching and was late to close but the Pavers missed the 3. Overall a decent defensive effort trying to help in the post while making sure his man was still were he left him

You take away those 4 bad shots at end of 3rd, which he does when left in too long, and 2 end of shot clock 3's, he had to take. He is 9 for 11. Liked that he went down low at end. Must of heard me yelling.

It is always about shot selection with Anthony, but he is rarely getting open shots created by others except for 3 point shots.

When the team stagnates like that..Have Melo run pick and rolls at the top of the key..Make him pass and create for others..He is a good passer...

I agree with this and why I think he should rest earlier in the 3rd so he can close out 4ths strong. Tonight he got to rest a long time to start the 4th and he had energy to play in the post late.

If he has his legs there is zero reason why Jennings and Rose should close late which helps the defense because Lee and Holiday can play the wings while Melo and Rose/Jennings handle the PnR duties up top. I know this would be hard but I would also keep reminding Melo to never bring the ball up the court just wait to receive it after a screen when it gets pass halfcourt.

I think running Melo for full quarters is wearing him out..They have to cut his minutes in the first and third quarters..I think it's really hurting the team..Marv Albert watches the team I think and he says Melo has tired legs..It's true..

nyknickzingis wrote:Not to be a downer but we've got Dallas on the road, Charlotte at home and Atlanta on the road.
Easily could be 20-29 by the end of the month. How we've been playing as of late (won 4 of last 11) we probably take 1 game, get blown out 1 game and lose 1 game by 1 point/possession.

21-28 by end of January looks likely. I'd like us to get more wins, but these games like tonight are few and far between,

If they're playing well they could easily win all of those games.

A big part of it will be how healthy KP is.

Also, how many minutes Holiday and Willy get. Holiday got 28min tonight and Willy got 24min - that sounds about right to me.

yellowboy90 wrote:I must say Myles Turner is on his way to becoming a special talent and he is already doing great things.

Yeah, I don't get why he's got so little coverage this season- looks to be doing very well.

Chandler wrote:Knicks needs to develop their killer instinct. How many games have we we lost after leading by double digits?

End of third quarter we got sloppy and pacers took advantage gained momentum and confidence

If we develop that our players will be fresher

Need a floor general who will take care of that not let players lose focus or get too happy.

nyknickzingis wrote:

Chandler wrote:Knicks needs to develop their killer instinct. How many games have we we lost after leading by double digits?

End of third quarter we got sloppy and pacers took advantage gained momentum and confidence

If we develop that our players will be fresher

Lack of leadership

Need a floor general who will take care of that not let players lose focus or get too happy.

YUP!!! Rubio! Jrue! Either way it would instantly improve this team.

holfresh wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

matt wrote:Why nobody pass to kristaps.

because he doesn't demand the ball, he waits until they notice him open

PGs get the ball to the open man...should be no need to demand it...sorry.

Wake me up when we have a real pg again

For real. It would make all the difference.

Walt is right that KP shouldn't have to demand the ball. At the same time he should send a message to Rose that he's tired of not getting any touches.

If I were KP and I got tired of being frozen out, I would do my level best to embarass Rose in practice, no cheaps shots. Put a little mustard on those blocks. Might respect that more than asking him to share the rock. Eventually he'll get the message.

I cant think of a worse move than bringing back Rose so he can call his own number ad nauseum.

KP took 5 less shots than Rose and Rose played 40 Minutes and KP 24. But agree, a true PG would greatly help KP's game. Specially cuz he would be yelling at KP to cut more off PnR's.

Whatever shots KP gets, its rarely off an assist from Rose.

KP has to roll..Rose is rolling..Rose will have to stop and turn to pass back to KP..

Rose is a dumb player. That's why he always does that stupid jump pass that leads to a TO most of the times. Rose doesn't understand that his assists to KP will only make it easier for him in getting to the rim.

Cartman718 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

holfresh wrote:Rose still not getting calls..Few times he was hit..Some one has to point this out to the refs before games..

I really am starting to think it's because he's quick and strong. His drives are fast as hell and he gets hit but because he's strong and doesn't try to "sell the foul" by flailing around - so it's hard for the refs to tell.

I think Harden gets so many calls for just the opposite reason. He has an old man game, he's deceptively quick, but normally his drives almost look slow motion. And then he exaggerates any contact and flails his arm around like someone just stole his girl.

so you are saying that harden is the smarter and better PG/SG. and that rose needs some acting classes instead of poker face all game.

Yes, Harden is better at the gamesmanship. He's definitely smart. And a great player.

I think Melo and Rose are sort of too proud to show that they are drawing contact by reacting - they're both strong guys and they go through the contact a lot of the time. Just observing that I think that leads to less calls for both of them. I don't know which approach is the correct one. Probably smarter to draw fouls. Just an observation.