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NardDogNation
Posts: 27295 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
3/27/2017 1:08 AM
crzymdups wrote:De'Aaron Fox after the loss. This makes me like him even more.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I might sound finicky but that to me makes Fox my pick as well. That video gives me the feeling he will never stop working on his game because losing is just that personal to him. He'd suck in the triangle but.....the triangle might not be played for very much longer... |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
3/27/2017 1:27 AM
NardDogNation wrote:crzymdups wrote:De'Aaron Fox after the loss. This makes me like him even more.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Fox wouldn't suck in the Triangle. He's too talented and patient to suck. If you watch him play he isn't just 100mph all the time. He gives it up and allows the balk to move before getting it back. He knows when to attack or turn it on. He'd be in the Jordan/Kobe role and not the Kerr/Fisher role. He defends too. I think Phil would LOVE this kid. |
wargames
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3/27/2017 1:39 AM LAST EDITED: 3/27/2017 1:43 AM
nixluva wrote:NardDogNation wrote:crzymdups wrote:De'Aaron Fox after the loss. This makes me like him even more.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Honestly I like this draft enough (and realize we probably should tank again next year) that any of the top 10 players who aren't a PF or C is good with me. I like the kid, I do...... but we're seeing now what the triangle looks like with guards who can't shoot consistently. Hell we've seen that almost nonstop since Phil came here since they haven't got a good shooter yet to run the system. on the flip we have also seen how bad this team is without a PG who can defend. so with that said even then Fox could be the pick. Hornecek was a shooting coach before becoming a HC and with an improvement to his outside shot he could play that attacking role All I am saying is if the Knicks have #4 and make the informed decision that Frank is the pick I hope they try and see if they could pull Kings pick trade for #7 and #9 he should be there and guys like Justin Jackson also fits the triangle..... he reminds me of a young Otto Porter he just needs to bulk up (sort of like porter did) The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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Zebo13
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3/27/2017 1:58 AM
crzymdups wrote:De'Aaron Fox after the loss. This makes me like him even more.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Not sure if he's the guy for us or not, but I'll be following his career either way. |
nixluva
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3/27/2017 9:58 AM
wargames wrote:nixluva wrote:NardDogNation wrote:crzymdups wrote:De'Aaron Fox after the loss. This makes me like him even more.Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I think Fox is going to be OK shooting. He's been getting better from what I've seen but more importantly he makes better decisions with the ball than Rose does as a Vet. Fox has insane fast twitch reflexes and I think he would help us defensively. The problem with Rose isn't a lack of 3 pt shooting. He can get his midrange shots off just fine. Rose's problems are playmaking and defense. I think Fox is better at both and he draws fouls. Justin Jackson seems like a very solid 2 way player. Guys like that are always high on my list. He's not as dynamic as a Tatum but perhaps a more balanced player that is good for a system. |
blkexec
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3/27/2017 12:17 PM
If we draft Josh Jackson as a potential Melo replacement, how do we fill the PG hole? I know this draft is filled will talented PG, but if Josh Jackson is not only a Melo replacement, but one of the best two way players in the draft, you gotta take him. And with a deep PG draft, use your 2nd round picks (or cash) to buy into the first round and select a PG. I can almost guarantee a solid PG will drop in this draft, and he will have a chip on his shoulder.....Because it's too deep at that position. Then you have 2nd round picks to take another flyer on a PG, as insurance (or stay with baker and randel as primary backups).
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smackeddog
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3/27/2017 12:39 PM
blkexec wrote:If we draft Josh Jackson as a potential Melo replacement, how do we fill the PG hole? I know this draft is filled will talented PG, but if Josh Jackson is not only a Melo replacement, but one of the best two way players in the draft, you gotta take him. And with a deep PG draft, use your 2nd round picks (or cash) to buy into the first round and select a PG. I can almost guarantee a solid PG will drop in this draft, and he will have a chip on his shoulder.....Because it's too deep at that position. Then you have 2nd round picks to take another flyer on a PG, as insurance (or stay with baker and randel as primary backups). Assuming we trade Melo, then the PG will be filled with Rivers, at least thats the assumption I've been working on |
wargames
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3/27/2017 1:50 PM
smackeddog wrote:blkexec wrote:If we draft Josh Jackson as a potential Melo replacement, how do we fill the PG hole? I know this draft is filled will talented PG, but if Josh Jackson is not only a Melo replacement, but one of the best two way players in the draft, you gotta take him. And with a deep PG draft, use your 2nd round picks (or cash) to buy into the first round and select a PG. I can almost guarantee a solid PG will drop in this draft, and he will have a chip on his shoulder.....Because it's too deep at that position. Then you have 2nd round picks to take another flyer on a PG, as insurance (or stay with baker and randel as primary backups). Also Jrue and Teague if they go through FA. Honestly even if we draft a guard like Monk, Fox, or Ntilkina I expect them to trade for Austin. Tryangle aside I still think they go for a 2 PG tandem in the tryangle and Austin fits the tradition Tryangle PG role. Monk, Fox (if he learns to shoot) and Ntilkina would just be beside him as a ball handling 2 guard. The consensus is that Fox is #4 but the rumors from Begley is that we're looking at Monk, and Ntilkina because they fit both tryangle guard and Hornecek (2 attacking PG systems) if Austin is the move as for Josh Jackson he is a defensive pass first SF which also fits the Tryangle and to a lesser degree Horncek's system The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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Knixkik
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3/27/2017 1:59 PM LAST EDITED: 3/27/2017 2:00 PM
wargames wrote:smackeddog wrote:blkexec wrote:If we draft Josh Jackson as a potential Melo replacement, how do we fill the PG hole? I know this draft is filled will talented PG, but if Josh Jackson is not only a Melo replacement, but one of the best two way players in the draft, you gotta take him. And with a deep PG draft, use your 2nd round picks (or cash) to buy into the first round and select a PG. I can almost guarantee a solid PG will drop in this draft, and he will have a chip on his shoulder.....Because it's too deep at that position. Then you have 2nd round picks to take another flyer on a PG, as insurance (or stay with baker and randel as primary backups). Agree about the guard situation. Essentially, we would have a 3-guard rotation of Rivers, Lee, and whomever we draft (Monk, Ntilikina, Fox, etc.) With Rivers being a combo guard, and Monk and Ntilikina also combo guards, you can have any of these guys share the floor together with Rivers or Lee. |
wargames
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3/27/2017 2:15 PM LAST EDITED: 3/27/2017 2:17 PM
Knixkik wrote:wargames wrote:smackeddog wrote:blkexec wrote:If we draft Josh Jackson as a potential Melo replacement, how do we fill the PG hole? I know this draft is filled will talented PG, but if Josh Jackson is not only a Melo replacement, but one of the best two way players in the draft, you gotta take him. And with a deep PG draft, use your 2nd round picks (or cash) to buy into the first round and select a PG. I can almost guarantee a solid PG will drop in this draft, and he will have a chip on his shoulder.....Because it's too deep at that position. Then you have 2nd round picks to take another flyer on a PG, as insurance (or stay with baker and randel as primary backups). You add in Crawford (if they can't find a 3'rd team) and we're set at guard rotation. The question then is do they do at SF. throwing a max at Otto Porter and hoping the Wizards blink is pointless they are going to match, Hayward would go to Boston or stay in Utah....... not a lot of options at SF The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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Knixkik
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3/27/2017 2:24 PM
wargames wrote:Knixkik wrote:wargames wrote:smackeddog wrote:blkexec wrote:If we draft Josh Jackson as a potential Melo replacement, how do we fill the PG hole? I know this draft is filled will talented PG, but if Josh Jackson is not only a Melo replacement, but one of the best two way players in the draft, you gotta take him. And with a deep PG draft, use your 2nd round picks (or cash) to buy into the first round and select a PG. I can almost guarantee a solid PG will drop in this draft, and he will have a chip on his shoulder.....Because it's too deep at that position. Then you have 2nd round picks to take another flyer on a PG, as insurance (or stay with baker and randel as primary backups). Yeah. We would probably have to stick with Lance Thomas and look to draft a SF in the 2018 draft. Thomas has proven to at least provide 3 and D attributes that are needed, but obviously we would eventually need an upgrade. |