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1/24/2017  12:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/24/2017  12:40 PM


$20 mil in cash found in a mattress by Feds. in an internet phone company pyramid scheme...Suckers born every minute...
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1/24/2017  12:41 PM
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Trump hasn't transferred ownership of his companies to his kids..This was just a photo shoot..This was all bs..The registration of these his companies were checked in different states and nothing has changed..The businesses are still in his name...

Damn! This guy is gonna get away with this crap. I just heard that the case filed against Trump for violating the Constitution's Emoluments Clause could take years to work its way up to the Supreme Court! So in essence he could be in violation almost his entire presidency and get away with it. Only the Republicans can hold Trump accountable and I don't see that happening. This is a sad state of affairs.


Yup...and he continues to sign orders re Keystone Pipeline and the DAPL.
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1/24/2017  12:43 PM
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Is this an alternative fact?

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1/24/2017  1:11 PM
Former Chrysler CEO was on this morning on how great it is to have a president who cares about business and the auto industry...

The bailout out that Obama authored for the auto industry, Chrysler included, probably didn't show enough love...

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1/24/2017  1:17 PM
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Would have been nice if they also included a picture from the show for us to compare to.

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1/24/2017  1:39 PM
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WaltLongmire wrote:

Would have been nice if they also included a picture from the show for us to compare to.

Nixluva is posting triangle screen grabs, even when nobody asks - Fishmike. LOL So are we going to reference that thread like the bible now? "The thread of Wroten Page 14 post 9" - EnySpree
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1/24/2017  2:10 PM
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MaTT4281 wrote:
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Would have been nice if they also included a picture from the show for us to compare to.


I think Matt was being facetious. The woman on the left WAS the character from the show.
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1/24/2017  3:05 PM
transparency

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1/24/2017  3:24 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/24/2017  3:32 PM
Last night, Trump tells Senate and House leaders that 3-5 million illegal voters voted which is why he lost the popular vote..No one questions or corrects him...They just nod...Trump also had a press conference with auto industry leaders and said bigly after bigly after bigly...No one says a word, utter silence...I remember during the campaign his surrogates were trying to convince us he was saying 'big league"...This guy is living in his own bubble..This is so surreal...
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1/24/2017  3:49 PM
djsunyc wrote:transparency

Trump bans EPA from social media...where's Alanis Morissette when you need her?

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1/24/2017  4:47 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/24/2017  4:49 PM
http://www.wsj.com/articles/technology-vs-the-middle-class-1485107698

Technology vs. the Middle Class
The ‘fourth industrial revolution’ will cause income inequality. Tech can also solve it

There is a reason we live in a golden age of dystopian science fiction: Increasingly, it feels like it is coming true. From “The Hunger Games” to “Elysium,” stories depict a world in which the trend of growing wealth and income inequality continues to its logical conclusion.

This narrative seems inevitable because it has occurred throughout history. The Luddites who attacked the automated looms that displaced them aren’t so different from the millions of truck drivers who could be displaced by self-driving vehicles.

What we’re going through now is called the fourth industrial revolution, marked by rapid innovation in automation, artificial intelligence, biotechnology, nanotechnology and other areas.


Last week, it was the talk of Davos, where Microsoft Chief Executive Satya Nadella worried it could lead to social unrest or excessive regulation. “If we don’t get it right we are going to have a vicious cycle,” Mr. Nadella said at a panel on AI.


Economists assert that in the long run, at least, such revolutions don’t lead to mass unemployment. I’ve written previously about how automation creates more and new kinds of jobs. It is one reason America is approaching full employment, according to Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen, despite more than two hundred years of industrialization.

Still, while there are jobs to be had, they aren’t—to put it bluntly—all that they used to be. The same economists who laud tech for increasing standards of living also note many forms of employment people are pushed into don’t pay as well or aren’t as rewarding as the old ones.

When workers lose a middle-class manufacturing or clerical job and end up in the service sector, the effect on their wages, benefits and job security contributes to what economists call polarization. In a polarized labor market, a minority of highly skilled employees—the ones who can leverage technology to be more productive—effectively replace the labor of others and are paid accordingly. Everyone else sees their fortunes dwindle.

Polarization has hit the middle class hard, but the devaluation of human labor will continue up the income ladder, says Branko Milanovic, an economist who specializes in income inequality.

That’s partly because, more than ever, we have the ability to eliminate higher-paying knowledge work. Ian Barkin, co-founder of Symphony Ventures, which helps some of the world’s largest companies automate everything from call centers to human-resource departments, says this phenomenon is known as “no-shoring.” The idea is that digitizing back-office tasks brings them back to the country in which a company operates, but without bringing back any jobs.

“One of our retail utility customers in the U.K. has about 300 robots doing 600 people’s worth of work,” said Alastair Bathgate, CEO of Blue Prism, another company that helps multinationals automate critical business functions.

“You can imagine that’s quite a big impact,” he said. “Before, you needed a building to house 600 people, but all that gets crushed down to one cabinet in the corner of a data center.”


AI could accelerate this trend, said Dennis Mortensen, CEO of x.ai, a startup that created a digital assistant smart enough to set up appointments.

In training x.ai’s artificially intelligent assistant, Mr. Mortensen’s team discovered that while they first needed to hire people with Ivy League degrees to work in the company’s Manhattan office, once the bulk of the training was done they were able to outsource the remaining work to a team outside the U.S.

Once you’ve solved a particular use case for an artificially intelligent bot, you’ve solved it forever, Mr. Mortensen said.

One way to visualize the impact of artificial intelligence is to plot the productivity of an AI and the number of people required to create and maintain it. In Mr. Mortensen’s experience, at some point the number of tasks the AI can accomplish grows exponentially, while the number of humans behind it grows much more slowly, or stays flat.

Now imagine that happening to every automatable task in our economy. A recent McKinsey study released this month concluded that 49% of the time workers spend on their jobs could be supplanted by automation, just by using technology that already exists.

It is possible this transition can be navigated more deliberately than in the past.

One solution to polarization is to address the “skills gap” in our labor market. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that up to one million jobs for programmers will go unfilled by 2020, for example.

Education is often touted as the answer to the skills gap, but it is generally a blunt instrument, says Muriel Clauson, an academic who hatched a solution to this problem at Singularity University.

Known as udexter, her idea is that if we study the tasks that comprise jobs, we can figure out which are automatable, and therefore which jobs are most at risk. If we also assess what skills individuals have, it should be possible for governments and companies to figure out what other jobs laid-off workers would be suited to, and get them trained in just those skills—perhaps pre-emptively.

A solution like this relies on the willingness of companies to use such a tool to retrain workers, or on laid-off workers winning a government-sponsored retraining race against increasingly adaptable machines.

The fact that so many CEOs and government leaders are talking about technological disruption of jobs, at Davos and elsewhere, means all is not lost.

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1/24/2017  5:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/24/2017  5:08 PM
holfresh wrote:http://www.wsj.com/articles/technology-vs-the-middle-class-1485107698

Technology vs. the Middle Class
The ‘fourth industrial revolution’ will cause income inequality. Tech can also solve it

There is a reason we live in a golden age of dystopian science fiction: Increasingly, it feels like it is coming true. From “The Hunger Games” to “Elysium,” stories depict a world in which the trend of growing wealth and income inequality continues to its logical conclusion.

This narrative seems inevitable because it has occurred throughout history. The Luddites who attacked the automated looms that displaced them aren’t so different from the millions of truck drivers who could be displaced by self-driving vehicles.

What we’re going through now is called the fourth industrial revolution, marked by rapid innovation in automation, artificial intelligence, biotechnology, nanotechnology and other areas.


Last week, it was the talk of Davos, where Microsoft Chief Executive Satya Nadella worried it could lead to social unrest or excessive regulation. “If we don’t get it right we are going to have a vicious cycle,” Mr. Nadella said at a panel on AI.


Economists assert that in the long run, at least, such revolutions don’t lead to mass unemployment. I’ve written previously about how automation creates more and new kinds of jobs. It is one reason America is approaching full employment, according to Federal Reserve Chairwoman Janet Yellen, despite more than two hundred years of industrialization.

Still, while there are jobs to be had, they aren’t—to put it bluntly—all that they used to be. The same economists who laud tech for increasing standards of living also note many forms of employment people are pushed into don’t pay as well or aren’t as rewarding as the old ones.

When workers lose a middle-class manufacturing or clerical job and end up in the service sector, the effect on their wages, benefits and job security contributes to what economists call polarization. In a polarized labor market, a minority of highly skilled employees—the ones who can leverage technology to be more productive—effectively replace the labor of others and are paid accordingly. Everyone else sees their fortunes dwindle.

Polarization has hit the middle class hard, but the devaluation of human labor will continue up the income ladder, says Branko Milanovic, an economist who specializes in income inequality.

That’s partly because, more than ever, we have the ability to eliminate higher-paying knowledge work. Ian Barkin, co-founder of Symphony Ventures, which helps some of the world’s largest companies automate everything from call centers to human-resource departments, says this phenomenon is known as “no-shoring.” The idea is that digitizing back-office tasks brings them back to the country in which a company operates, but without bringing back any jobs.

“One of our retail utility customers in the U.K. has about 300 robots doing 600 people’s worth of work,” said Alastair Bathgate, CEO of Blue Prism, another company that helps multinationals automate critical business functions.

“You can imagine that’s quite a big impact,” he said. “Before, you needed a building to house 600 people, but all that gets crushed down to one cabinet in the corner of a data center.”


AI could accelerate this trend, said Dennis Mortensen, CEO of x.ai, a startup that created a digital assistant smart enough to set up appointments.

In training x.ai’s artificially intelligent assistant, Mr. Mortensen’s team discovered that while they first needed to hire people with Ivy League degrees to work in the company’s Manhattan office, once the bulk of the training was done they were able to outsource the remaining work to a team outside the U.S.

Once you’ve solved a particular use case for an artificially intelligent bot, you’ve solved it forever, Mr. Mortensen said.

One way to visualize the impact of artificial intelligence is to plot the productivity of an AI and the number of people required to create and maintain it. In Mr. Mortensen’s experience, at some point the number of tasks the AI can accomplish grows exponentially, while the number of humans behind it grows much more slowly, or stays flat.

Now imagine that happening to every automatable task in our economy. A recent McKinsey study released this month concluded that 49% of the time workers spend on their jobs could be supplanted by automation, just by using technology that already exists.

It is possible this transition can be navigated more deliberately than in the past.

One solution to polarization is to address the “skills gap” in our labor market. The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics projects that up to one million jobs for programmers will go unfilled by 2020, for example.

Education is often touted as the answer to the skills gap, but it is generally a blunt instrument, says Muriel Clauson, an academic who hatched a solution to this problem at Singularity University.

Known as udexter, her idea is that if we study the tasks that comprise jobs, we can figure out which are automatable, and therefore which jobs are most at risk. If we also assess what skills individuals have, it should be possible for governments and companies to figure out what other jobs laid-off workers would be suited to, and get them trained in just those skills—perhaps pre-emptively.

A solution like this relies on the willingness of companies to use such a tool to retrain workers, or on laid-off workers winning a government-sponsored retraining race against increasingly adaptable machines.

The fact that so many CEOs and government leaders are talking about technological disruption of jobs, at Davos and elsewhere, means all is not lost.

The biggest factor which makes the ‘fourth industrial revolution’ slow-footed is absence of stimulus for executives on every level to implement it. Rather they try to sabotage it as much as possible. If automation and IE will we implemented as per already existing technology the biggest rick is for managerial workers. When you have less to non people in business there is nothing to manage.
Machines are programmed not managed. So programmers and architects will replace managers.
And as managers and executive are the once to make all decisions I do not expect automation and IE to be implemented for a long long time. The fiasco with medical industry automation and computerization is very good example.
So do not be afraid... it will be no drastic changes in our lifetime for sure.

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1/25/2017  9:19 AM
#idiot man-child

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/01/trump-aides-cant-stop-blabbing-about-how-hes-a-madman.html?mid=facebook_nymag

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1/25/2017  10:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/25/2017  10:34 AM
"America First" and the first big project signoff goes to a Canadian company to build a pipeline...
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1/25/2017  11:09 AM
fake allegations of voter fraud.
then a fake investigation of said fake fraud.
with fake results from said fake investigation.

why?

b/c the long play is voter suppression.

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1/25/2017  11:38 AM
djsunyc wrote:fake allegations of voter fraud.
then a fake investigation of said fake fraud.
with fake results from said fake investigation.

why?

b/c the long play is voter suppression.

glad to see someone is taking over for orangeblobman

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1/25/2017  12:29 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/25/2017  12:33 PM
So all Govt. Agencies are no longer allowed to communicate with the people. - TRANSPARENCY

LOL - the fukking hypocrisy of this isn't lost on anyone.

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1/25/2017  1:01 PM
Voter suppression? Guess it is too much to have voters show just one of numerous ids. Please. Can look up state by state what passes for id. Guess none of you fly. Hope that voter fraud investigation happens. Likely Pres Trump gets egg on face for his numbers but at least that question be answered and any loopholes be tughtened up .. Away from the zany tweets, it is apparent that he had his agenda, was not just election blabber of politicians, even if one hates or disagrees with it. Good to see him taking on the disregarded issue of gangs and black on black violence that plagues inner cities. Expect liberals to moan anout his poltical incorrectness but watch him lift those neighborhoods for the masses.
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1/25/2017  1:37 PM
nyk4ever wrote:
djsunyc wrote:fake allegations of voter fraud.
then a fake investigation of said fake fraud.
with fake results from said fake investigation.

why?

b/c the long play is voter suppression.

glad to see someone is taking over for orangeblobman

He is right, though, however he chose to say it. Check out Ari Berman and voter suppression and Greg Palast on crosschecking. It is why I never cared much for the recounts...Damage had already been done.

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1/25/2017  1:54 PM
meloanyk wrote:Voter suppression? Guess it is too much to have voters show just one of numerous ids. Please. Can look up state by state what passes for id. Guess none of you fly. Hope that voter fraud investigation happens. Likely Pres Trump gets egg on face for his numbers but at least that question be answered and any loopholes be tughtened up .. Away from the zany tweets, it is apparent that he had his agenda, was not just election blabber of politicians, even if one hates or disagrees with it. Good to see him taking on the disregarded issue of gangs and black on black violence that plagues inner cities. Expect liberals to moan anout his poltical incorrectness but watch him lift those neighborhoods for the masses.

Voter Fraud investigation is another distraction! How about Makin it easier for citizens to vote PERIOD! My Grandmother has never had a drivers license and never flown. There are hundreds of thousands in that same situation. Don't try to mentally F people and make this about anything other than Voter Suppression!!! Same Racist BS! Different day.

Crime in Chicago is the result of Decades of Redlinig and crowding Blacks into Ghettos with no economic opportunity or resources. Guess who's responsible for that crap??? We all want safety but also opportunity and equality! Just stopping the violence alone doesn't address the reason crime has spiked in these neighborhoods.

Don't try to normalize or justify Trump's racist views of African Americans and other minorities with some BS "Ends justifies the means" argument! There are no simple Law and Order solutions to the problem. As I've said over and over, this crap was done on purpose! It's not an accident that many black neighborhoods have seen disinvestment and neglect.

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