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djsunyc
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12/1/2016 1:46 PM LAST EDITED: 12/1/2016 1:47 PM
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/30/13631532/everything-mattered-2016-presidential-election
it's a long read but very imformative. Trump voters were distinguished by their white resentment |
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Vmart
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12/1/2016 2:32 PM
djsunyc wrote:http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/30/13631532/everything-mattered-2016-presidential-election Why did Trump get more support from Hispanic and African American communities than Romney? This is typical Democratic line when ever something doesn't go the way they want they cry racism. Democrates are playing vote bank politics this is divisive. It's a great thing that Trump did to keep The company in Indiana. Even if he paid to keep them there. What was the difference when Obama bailed out AiG, Banks and big auto. Think about that? |
holfresh
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12/1/2016 2:35 PM LAST EDITED: 12/1/2016 2:37 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:djsunyc wrote:let's keep all politics in one place :) Not really accurate the heading on the clip is it???..What Obama is referring to is NAFTA and all the jobs has disappeared since NAFTA was implemented...85% due to automation and technology by the way,DJ posted the link in the other tread about this already...How is he going to bring those jobs back when Trump himself has his ties and shirts made overseas??..Are Trump ties now going to be made in the US??? |
arkrud
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12/1/2016 2:39 PM
holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:The US is only a true democracy in terms of freedom of speech, religion and freedom of assembly, etc. In terms of the vote and how laws are passed, it's not a democracy..It's not a true representation of all the people...The Senate and House will soon vote to repeal the Healthcare law when Trump takes office... Together, states like Wyoming, North Dakota and West Virginia have 6 Senators representing 2.7 million people voting on a law affecting citizens of New York and California represented by 4 Senators, who together have a population of 60 million people..How is this fair??..Why should such a small segment of people have such a significantly weighted impact on an important life changing bill that effect all Americans??..How can this be allowed in this country???..We go around the world telling people how to fairly run their country but democracy exist in name only in this country... Why not. It is small but bigger that many countries in the world. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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earthmansurfer
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12/1/2016 2:45 PM
holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:djsunyc wrote:let's keep all politics in one place :) Can you see no joy in anything, seriously? He just saved 1000 jobs and you and other Hillary supporters have nothing positive to say. Trump is creating a different tax system to help everyone, from the poor to the rich (lower taxes for all). Yeah, Trump took advantage of loopholes in the system as all businesses do. But there are ways to help to keep jobs in America too. I hope companies would have some pride to come back to America, instead of just buying back stock and crap like that. If not, then they are digging our grave. But I'm sure a little pressure in the right places will work. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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holfresh
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12/1/2016 2:46 PM
arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:The US is only a true democracy in terms of freedom of speech, religion and freedom of assembly, etc. In terms of the vote and how laws are passed, it's not a democracy..It's not a true representation of all the people...The Senate and House will soon vote to repeal the Healthcare law when Trump takes office... Together, states like Wyoming, North Dakota and West Virginia have 6 Senators representing 2.7 million people voting on a law affecting citizens of New York and California represented by 4 Senators, who together have a population of 60 million people..How is this fair??..Why should such a small segment of people have such a significantly weighted impact on an important life changing bill that effect all Americans??..How can this be allowed in this country???..We go around the world telling people how to fairly run their country but democracy exist in name only in this country... Oh stop..How about NY and California breaking off and creating their own Federation...Communism and low standard of living will want to make people leave too... |
meloshouldgo
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12/1/2016 2:49 PM
ramtour420 wrote:arkrud wrote:djsunyc wrote:let's keep all politics in one place :) Correct, but he sounds a lot smarter than he is. Sad, but true. There's plenty of evidence on that last thread. I cannot teach anybody anything. I can only try to make them think - Socrates
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holfresh
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12/1/2016 2:53 PM LAST EDITED: 12/1/2016 2:54 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:djsunyc wrote:let's keep all politics in one place :) Window dressing, dog and pony show, outside of this particular act, Trump is angling to do the exact opposite of what he ran on..He is already waffling on his populist message..I don't care, I never believed anything he said anyway, so no shock there... |
earthmansurfer
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12/1/2016 2:59 PM
holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:djsunyc wrote:let's keep all politics in one place :) Obama spent 770 Million renovating Mosques in the Middle East and you guys are complaining about a State spending 700,000 a year to keep 1,000 jobs in America, that Trump did while President Elect? CBS Investigation The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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holfresh
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12/1/2016 3:01 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:djsunyc wrote:let's keep all politics in one place :) Keeping jobs are a very good thing...I support that 1000%, no pun intended, but I think you guys get it wrong on who started nation building in the Middle East... |
martin
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12/1/2016 3:12 PM
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arkrud
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12/1/2016 3:21 PM
djsunyc wrote:http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/30/13631532/everything-mattered-2016-presidential-election All current researches are based on premise that urbanization continue to be the main driver for population shift. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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arkrud
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12/1/2016 3:22 PM
holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:The US is only a true democracy in terms of freedom of speech, religion and freedom of assembly, etc. In terms of the vote and how laws are passed, it's not a democracy..It's not a true representation of all the people...The Senate and House will soon vote to repeal the Healthcare law when Trump takes office... Together, states like Wyoming, North Dakota and West Virginia have 6 Senators representing 2.7 million people voting on a law affecting citizens of New York and California represented by 4 Senators, who together have a population of 60 million people..How is this fair??..Why should such a small segment of people have such a significantly weighted impact on an important life changing bill that effect all Americans??..How can this be allowed in this country???..We go around the world telling people how to fairly run their country but democracy exist in name only in this country... Why not... Same story only reverse. And most of the population in NY and California will not support it too. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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holfresh
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12/1/2016 3:24 PM
martin wrote:this is our country Why are you surprised, EMS just posted the video they are talking about..The interviewer was probably nervous and asked Obama if she voted, would they come to her house to deport her..She probably meant people in her household, but Obama corrected her and said you can vote if you are a citizen...The right didn't hear his correction, ask EMS he still tried to say Obama was ok with illegal immigrants voting... |
arkrud
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12/1/2016 3:25 PM LAST EDITED: 12/1/2016 3:25 PM
meloshouldgo wrote:ramtour420 wrote:arkrud wrote:djsunyc wrote:let's keep all politics in one place :) May be somebody has problems with comprehension skills. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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djsunyc
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12/1/2016 3:27 PM
earthmansurfer wrote:Can you see no joy in anything, seriously? He just saved 1000 jobs and you and other Hillary supporters have nothing positive to say. Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: ems - i understand you are supporting trump and believe in his plans. can you post links on how trump's trickle down plan will help the economy? can you also post links on how trumps tax cuts will help the economy? from many accounts of independent financial experts, his plans will not help. i would like to read some articles on where it will - i'm genuinely curious to read the other side of it. as for the carrier jobs - yes, to those 1000 employees, trump did his job. but the other people of indiana are now helping to pay for those jobs to stay - without their consent. i'm glad those 1000 people can keep working - but the full financial ramifications are yet to be determined until a few years from now. i can't deny the optics of it but when it comes to politicians, we need to look closer. |
holfresh
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12/1/2016 3:31 PM
arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:arkrud wrote:holfresh wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:holfresh wrote:The US is only a true democracy in terms of freedom of speech, religion and freedom of assembly, etc. In terms of the vote and how laws are passed, it's not a democracy..It's not a true representation of all the people...The Senate and House will soon vote to repeal the Healthcare law when Trump takes office... Together, states like Wyoming, North Dakota and West Virginia have 6 Senators representing 2.7 million people voting on a law affecting citizens of New York and California represented by 4 Senators, who together have a population of 60 million people..How is this fair??..Why should such a small segment of people have such a significantly weighted impact on an important life changing bill that effect all Americans??..How can this be allowed in this country???..We go around the world telling people how to fairly run their country but democracy exist in name only in this country... So, we shouldn't try to get our voices heard by our representatives for fear of the stability of the Republic??..Then it's time to shake up the Republic, don't you think?? |
djsunyc
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12/1/2016 3:34 PM
arkrud wrote:All current researches are based on premise that urbanization continue to be the main driver for population shift. demographics and race are intertwined. trump campaigned on race - i don't think that's even up for debate. there is enough data to support it. i think white people in this country were ready for a change (obama) but to overcome what's in the subconscious takes a long time and trump was able to revert many back to it. racism isn't just about screaming at someone who's a different color - it's engrained in everyone since this country was built on racism. it's still very institutional and all of us have it in us whether we choose to admit it or not. but the fact is, one race has dominated all the others in this country - and any set back in terms of racial unity - and this election is a set back - takes years to overcome and further engrains what's already in our subconscious. |
arkrud
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12/1/2016 3:47 PM
djsunyc wrote:arkrud wrote:All current researches are based on premise that urbanization continue to be the main driver for population shift. 10th if not hundreds of millions emigrants came to US after slavery was abolished and even after segregation was ended. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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