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callmened
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8/27/2016 8:10 PM
http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/24/12553850/new-york-knicks-rumors-recap-podcast-nba-preview-2016
I think this is a more OBJECTIVE preview of the knicks. They talk about: Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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CrushAlot
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8/27/2016 9:06 PM
callmened wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/24/12553850/new-york-knicks-rumors-recap-podcast-nba-preview-2016That seems a lot more reasonable. Thanks for posting the link. I will make sure to listen to it tomorrow. I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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nixluva
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8/28/2016 1:20 AM
arkrud wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is an intriguing upcoming season regardless of the win loss record. Many intriguing players to follow. From Rose, Noah, Jennings recovery. Prospects like Willie, Mindus, Ndour. Prime vets like Thomas, Holiday, KOQ who all still have potential. The development of KP, and following the innovations of Hornacek. You know the truth is that most of the time my predictions have been in the 40's and only a few games higher than the average. Contrary to what many think I have been in the mid 40's with most of my predictions. I only went crazy maybe 2 times. I don't live and die by season predictions so i'm not embarrassed to post as many as I can find and remember. We all know how much of a disaster the franchise has been the last 16 years so likely no one has a perfect prediction history unless you pretty much just stay negative and predict the worst every year, in which case you can act like a genius even if the Pros predicted a better record than the Knicks may have ended up with.
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dk7th
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8/28/2016 9:05 AM
nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is an intriguing upcoming season regardless of the win loss record. Many intriguing players to follow. From Rose, Noah, Jennings recovery. Prospects like Willie, Mindus, Ndour. Prime vets like Thomas, Holiday, KOQ who all still have potential. The development of KP, and following the innovations of Hornacek. you got fairly close to very close 25% of the time, and when you were off, you were way way way off. because you have been so grossly inaccurate i understand your "not living and dying" by predictions. however: you should care about your predictive ability since it is a reflection of an overall acumen for the subject in question. your inaccuracy is simply a reflection of your chronic ignoring or avoidance of the pertinent facts and statistics and going more from conjecture and hope. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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arkrud
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8/28/2016 9:13 AM LAST EDITED: 8/28/2016 9:17 AM
nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is an intriguing upcoming season regardless of the win loss record. Many intriguing players to follow. From Rose, Noah, Jennings recovery. Prospects like Willie, Mindus, Ndour. Prime vets like Thomas, Holiday, KOQ who all still have potential. The development of KP, and following the innovations of Hornacek. Appreciating your honesty and love to the team but it was far too optimistic: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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dk7th
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8/28/2016 9:45 AM
callmened wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/24/12553850/new-york-knicks-rumors-recap-podcast-nba-preview-2016 ned this was a great find. i listened to it last night and these guys were comprehensive and on the money. too bad they had to muck it up with the off-topic dorkiness. still, this is what all knicks fans should listen to. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/28/2016 2:14 PM
arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is an intriguing upcoming season regardless of the win loss record. Many intriguing players to follow. From Rose, Noah, Jennings recovery. Prospects like Willie, Mindus, Ndour. Prime vets like Thomas, Holiday, KOQ who all still have potential. The development of KP, and following the innovations of Hornacek. No i've already explained that I don't go for the middle ground I take a maximal approach to my predictions, so I already know that they are high. I look for what I think the talent, fit and gameplan suggest should be possible if they perform at their best. I'm not betting or expecting anyone to bet on my predictions so there's no need for me to mitigate my prediction with some kind of counterbalance as a betting line would. I don't factor in injury or historical dysfunction of the franchise. IMO in many of these years the team has underachieved due not so much to the talent but the leadership of the franchise. Dolan on down had a very negative impact on the team. Often the type of players we had were in need of stronger leadership and due to the lack of that leadership the team underachieved relative to their talent. It's one of the reasons the 54 win team played well and then the next season the team underachieved. The same thing happened in the 17 win season before Phil rightfully blew it up. IMO Phil did the right thing in starting over. I think he's done the best he could this summer in bringing in leadership and players that can execute what his coach, Hornacek wants to implement. |
arkrud
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8/28/2016 4:20 PM
nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is an intriguing upcoming season regardless of the win loss record. Many intriguing players to follow. From Rose, Noah, Jennings recovery. Prospects like Willie, Mindus, Ndour. Prime vets like Thomas, Holiday, KOQ who all still have potential. The development of KP, and following the innovations of Hornacek. I hope for once you are predicting it right. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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nixluva
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8/28/2016 4:42 PM
arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:nixluva wrote:arkrud wrote:newyorknewyork wrote:This is an intriguing upcoming season regardless of the win loss record. Many intriguing players to follow. From Rose, Noah, Jennings recovery. Prospects like Willie, Mindus, Ndour. Prime vets like Thomas, Holiday, KOQ who all still have potential. The development of KP, and following the innovations of Hornacek. It's not important whether i'm hitting or missing. It's more important that the team plays up to it's potential rather than far below it as has happened in the past. That 17 win team did not come in with that as a prediction for what they should achieve. I think it's easy to jump on me for not getting the prediction right but let's take last year for instance. Last year the team was on pace to exceed Pro Predictions by a wide margin but due to injury they fell off that pace but still exceeded expectations. I don't feel I was wrong in believing the team could win 44-48 games. They only won 32 but that was above the pro predictions. Year One of Phil Jackson’s New York Knicks presidency was, as the man himself said, a “project gone awry.” If Year Two doesn’t bring significant progress, the locals may become restless.http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/nba-new-york-knicks-preview/ |
CrushAlot
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8/29/2016 1:14 PM
callmened wrote:http://www.sbnation.com/2016/8/24/12553850/new-york-knicks-rumors-recap-podcast-nba-preview-2016Awesome podcast. To quote Amare, "Phenomenal." I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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