yellowboy90 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:moz close at 4 x 65

Noah's deal not looking too bad.

yes it is

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there are other ways to spend money and more options

Such as?

Trevor Booker, Thomas Robinson, Terrance Jones, Etwaun Moore, Zaza, Mahimi. and more. Then you will likely have the free up cap space trades that will go down. Maybe you pick up a Lamb, Kufos, and etc.

EnySpree wrote:These guys just praised the Mosgov deal and are very hesitant to praise the Knicks....

KP, Melo, Noah, Rose and Courtney Lee.... on paper that group should easily gel. nice balance.... health makes a play in every teams success. The knicks would be very good if we end up with this group

Knickoftime wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:moz close at 4 x 65

Noah's deal not looking too bad.

yes it is

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/748740024330391553

there are other ways to spend money and more options

Such as?

Trevor Booker, Thomas Robinson, Terrance Jones, Etwaun Moore, Zaza, Mahimi. and more. Then you will likely have the free up cap space trades that will go down. Maybe you pick up a Lamb, Kufos, and etc.

Golden State wants veteran names.

Spurs signed Aldridge last year and are looking for veteran names.

OKC wants Horford.

Boston desperately wants a veteran name.

Houston is always chasing veteran names.

Dallas too.

Chicago too.

What organization out there including the top well-run ones are trying to load up with cheap D-listers?

And if the answer is none, why not?

Those franchises can do that. The lone exception is Dallas but they have a really great coach. Portland did it last year and look at what they can do this year.

What can they do this year?

They have a max slot available if they renounce Henderson, Kaman, and Roberts. They have even more money or the 10yr max if they let go of one of their restricted FAs. They have options on a playoff team.

The way things are going for the knicks is that they will not have a 10 yr max slot if they use all their space on Noah/lee and then go over the cap to sign Gallo/Thomas.

Lee is a pros pro but so was AA. Lee is just another version of a average tto below average player who will be north of 30 soon. Teams found it hard to keep Lee when he was on a reasonable contract but I guess he is a new player now.

CrushAlot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

mreinman wrote:moz close at 4 x 65

Noah's deal not looking too bad.

yes it is

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/KBergCBS/status/748740024330391553

there are other ways to spend money and more options

Such as?

Trevor Booker, Thomas Robinson, Terrance Jones, Etwaun Moore, Zaza, Mahimi. and more. Then you will likely have the free up cap space trades that will go down. Maybe you pick up a Lamb, Kufos, and etc.

I think Moore might get paid. Not a great list in my opinion. A couple of my friends are really big (longtime) net fans. They are pretty meh on Robinson.

That's why you buy low and long to see what happens. If the guy can stick to PnR finishes he might turn his career around because his rebounding is crazy good.

nixluva wrote:

EnySpree wrote:These guys just praised the Mosgov deal and are very hesitant to praise the Knicks....

KP, Melo, Noah, Rose and Courtney Lee.... on paper that group should easily gel. nice balance.... health makes a play in every teams success. The knicks would be very good if we end up with this group

I think that's a solid group. Noah and Lee are unselfish players that know their role. I think the flow should be excellent as you have NBA Vets who are very professional and know how to play winning basketball. You can trust these players to know what to do. With JH coaching it should be really good.

They say Austin Rivers is being looked at tomorrow for backup PG.

Cartman718 wrote:Ok I'm confused. We had a center who was not injury prone at 13 million per year whose production is the same as Noah's. So we trade him and replace him with someone who's probably going to give us the same production over 4 years considering age / injuries etc.
and we sign an injury prone point guard albeit for one season. Could we have kept Lopez and signed Bradley Beal at 20 or 25 million per? Isn't that a better combo of guard and center than rose and Noah?

Well, for one, Beal was a restricted free agent. And given Washington is giving him the max proactively, it doesn't take much deductive reasoning to work out what would have have happened if the Knicks signed him to a max offer sheet.

In fact, since they could only sign him for 4 years with lower raises and Washington could give him 5 with higher raises, it's 100% certain he never even signs the offer sheet.

Cartman718 wrote:Ok and there's no one else in the market that we could have had at 72 mill? I'm trying to understand why Noah for 4 years at that. Why not someone like mozzy or biyombo or even Dwight Howard for that matter as much as I hate him.

Cartman718 wrote:Even if the contract is insured, doesn't it count against the cap?

It does count against the cap but the medical evaluations make injury less likely than a contract like say Amar'e or Bradley Beal. He might get hurt and the contract is probably a little too long, but this isn't a situation where Noah is so broken down that the team has to pay the contract no matter what.