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mreinman
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6/30/2016  11:54 PM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
mreinman wrote:that might win them a few more games with that upgrade

The funny or sad thing is that you really think this. Graduate from the Bonn school of stats ( aka get ur head out of ur azz) and actually watch some games. You might actually learn something. Any stat that tells you last yr Jose was better than Rose in ANY way is just so misleading.

every stat last year shows that rose was worse in every way.

I actually watch more games than you counting limit.

what sad is that you are an angry man with limited vision.

I'll bet you a hundred bucks Rose has more win shares than Jose this season.

WS48 - I'll take it.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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crzymdups
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6/30/2016  11:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 6/30/2016  11:58 PM
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
mreinman wrote:that might win them a few more games with that upgrade

The funny or sad thing is that you really think this. Graduate from the Bonn school of stats ( aka get ur head out of ur azz) and actually watch some games. You might actually learn something. Any stat that tells you last yr Jose was better than Rose in ANY way is just so misleading.

every stat last year shows that rose was worse in every way.

I actually watch more games than you counting limit.

what sad is that you are an angry man with limited vision.

I'll bet you a hundred bucks Rose has more win shares than Jose this season.

WS48 - I'll take it.

I said win shares. Isn't that the ultimate rating of who is more valuable? Minutes count.

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BigRedDog
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7/1/2016  12:09 AM
mreinman wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
mreinman wrote:that might win them a few more games with that upgrade

The funny or sad thing is that you really think this. Graduate from the Bonn school of stats ( aka get ur head out of ur azz) and actually watch some games. You might actually learn something. Any stat that tells you last yr Jose was better than Rose in ANY way is just so misleading.

every stat last year shows that rose was worse in every way.

I actually watch more games than you counting limit.

what sad is that you are an angry man with limited vision.

First of all i'm not angry. One persons opinion that I greatly admire is Hubie Brown. When I think if you ask Hubie to fabricate a team this yr and who would you rather have at pg, Rose or Jose. If you think Hubie is picking Jose over Rose then you are the one with limited vision.

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mreinman
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7/1/2016  12:14 AM
BigRedDog wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
mreinman wrote:that might win them a few more games with that upgrade

The funny or sad thing is that you really think this. Graduate from the Bonn school of stats ( aka get ur head out of ur azz) and actually watch some games. You might actually learn something. Any stat that tells you last yr Jose was better than Rose in ANY way is just so misleading.

every stat last year shows that rose was worse in every way.

I actually watch more games than you counting limit.

what sad is that you are an angry man with limited vision.

First of all i'm not angry. One persons opinion that I greatly admire is Hubie Brown. When I think if you ask Hubie to fabricate a team this yr and who would you rather have at pg, Rose or Jose. If you think Hubie is picking Jose over Rose then you are the one with limited vision.

Hubie brown is like 90 and he probably does not make that trade.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
mreinman
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7/1/2016  12:15 AM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
mreinman wrote:that might win them a few more games with that upgrade

The funny or sad thing is that you really think this. Graduate from the Bonn school of stats ( aka get ur head out of ur azz) and actually watch some games. You might actually learn something. Any stat that tells you last yr Jose was better than Rose in ANY way is just so misleading.

every stat last year shows that rose was worse in every way.

I actually watch more games than you counting limit.

what sad is that you are an angry man with limited vision.

I'll bet you a hundred bucks Rose has more win shares than Jose this season.

WS48 - I'll take it.

I said win shares. Isn't that the ultimate rating of who is more valuable? Minutes count.

no WS48 is more accurate.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
Bonn1997
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7/1/2016  7:12 AM
mreinman wrote:that might win them a few more games with that upgrade

Yeah, I think there is a high chance they win more games than last year.
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7/1/2016  7:18 AM
crzymdups wrote:
mreinman wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:
mreinman wrote:that might win them a few more games with that upgrade

The funny or sad thing is that you really think this. Graduate from the Bonn school of stats ( aka get ur head out of ur azz) and actually watch some games. You might actually learn something. Any stat that tells you last yr Jose was better than Rose in ANY way is just so misleading.

every stat last year shows that rose was worse in every way.

I actually watch more games than you counting limit.

what sad is that you are an angry man with limited vision.

I'll bet you a hundred bucks Rose has more win shares than Jose this season. Meaning 2016-17


I agree with Mreinman here. Minutes isn't fair to look at because it's conflated with team depth and coaching decisions. The Bulls have a deeper team. The Knicks will probably play Rose every minute he can handle like they do with all their high priced players. The fair discussion is to compare how effective they are when they're on the floor. That said, it may not matter anyway. Rose has only had 1 total win share since 2012 anyway. Jose has had 19. WS48 is .017 for Rose and .113 for Calderon in that period.
Calderon may start for the Bulls

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