crzymdups wrote:martin wrote:crzymdups wrote:Who do the pro-Phil crowd think the Knicks are getting in Free Agency? Will Bazemore leave a great situation in Atlanta? Will Batum leave a great situation in Charlotte? Just curious what the realistic expectations are that I'm missing? Are these FA supposed to be excited about playing for Kurt Rambis who has the worst record of any coach in the league? Are they supposed to be excited about the Triangle which is universally mocked around the league? I'm honestly curious. I have a bad feeling about the coaching hire and about FA. I'd love to feel better about it.
Contenders are not built overnight. Player by player, brick by brick.
Who thought DeMarre Carroll would leave a 60+ win Atlanta team whose whole lineup were all stars. Who thought Rolo would come to the Knicks and be a decent piece on a very good contract? Who thought KP would be a insta potential franchise guy and not the purported "many years" before impact? Who thought that Phil could trade for a first round pick last year?
Got to wait and see and not expect instant success but rather a building team who gets better.
“First of all, the problem with step-by-step analysis is that it obscures the bigger picture,” Van Gundy said in a telephone interview. “So I don’t care that much what you say about Phil’s decisions to trade for Jose Calderon or sign Arron Afflalo — so far, he got the biggest one right.”He referred to Jackson’s drafting of Kristaps Porzingis — “The kid has the mental makeup to be a huge star,” Van Gundy raved — when Jackson might have succumbed to external pressure to trade down in the draft to secure a veteran player along with a lower pick last June.
I agree with this all of course.
I think the main thing that takes away my faith in Phil is the way the coaching has been handled. The Fisher situation was messy and a bit of a black eye for Phil's reign here. Handing the job to Rambis with no real coaching search when he didn't do a good job in 30 game trial... just reckless and stubborn.
We have Melo saying today that Thibs definitely would've come here and wanted to come here... and couldn't even get an interview.
Best coach on the market couldn't get an interview? Wanted to come here. Couldn't get a phone call.
edit: to your point about DeMarre Carroll - I liked that guy. But the way you steal a guy like that is to wildly overpay him. Toronto owes that dude 3yr $46M... they overpaid. That'll be the only way to get a starter level player, minimum 4yr $60M for a starter, maybe more like 4yr $80M in this market.
You know what, you gotta let things play out. You seem to have indited Phil because he already put Rambis in place as the head coach? Has Rambis been named? I don't recall that.
And if he does nominate Rambis, let us find out why. I am a bit of a long term look guy and want continuity. I am definitely unsure if Rambis is a deep playoff coach, but neither are the Knicks for another year or 2. I think they are better off with teaching and continuity for at least another year before they bring in a better coach.
Fish was a **** up, a mistake; bet he wishes he did things differently and so do the Knicks. But it was identified and cut.
Does anyone think that Phil and Thibs would actually get along or that Dolan (who hated Thibs?) would be OK with him in NY? Also, does anyone think that Thibs after about a year wouldn't make a move to get control of the front office? Would Thibs be OK with some of the triangle guys on his team and also run the Triangle?
As for Carroll, he was a 28 year old first time all star, 2 way player, ball mover who was shooting 40% from 3? I have to tell you, with the caps rising so quickly, I really got no clue what amounts to overpay. It's weird that there was such loud objection to Rolo at $13.5M and yet that turns out to be a VERY favorable contract. What is the market for borderline all stars who are 2-way players? Middleton, Danilo, Dragic, Parsons, Tobias Harris, Wesley Matthews, Gordon Hayward are all 2/3 wing players who get paid about $14M per and recently signed contracts. So maybe his contact is about right?