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mreinman
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4/28/2016  6:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/28/2016  6:10 PM
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One of our longtime posters, Frank, asked if I could share this open letter he wrote to James Dolan. So here ya go! – BC

Dear Mr. Dolan,
I have been a Knicks fan for as long as I can remember. I remember scanning the box scores in the paper as a kid, looking for Bill Cartwright’s and Bernard King’s line after every game. I lived and died with the Knicks of the 90s, cheering their lunchbox mentality and how much they seemed to embody the grittiness and toughness of New York City. I was even a season ticket holder during the late 2000s, until I had to give them up after my family moved out of the city.
People who know me would agree that I am perhaps the least likely person to write an email to the owner of a professional sports team on the distant hope that he might read the plea of one fan out of the many thousands. Even so, I feel like the Knicks are at a crossroads right now, and that perhaps you are the only one that can turn the fortunes of this foundering franchise.

Like many Knick fans, I cheered the hiring of Phil Jackson two years ago, feeling that bringing aboard a basketball legend and former Knick great could reinvigorate the franchise. However, since then it has become clear to me that Mr. Jackson did not return solely to bring the franchise back to its previous glory – rather, he came back with an agenda to solidify his own legend by proving that his system and its teachings were primarily responsible for his 11 championships, not the combination of spectacular roster talent, his skillful coaching, and yes, the Triangle system.

I’d like to present to you one fan’s view of Mr. Jackson’s tenure and what I think it means for the present and future of our beloved franchise.
First – what has already happened from a “Results” perspective:

His return has been an unmitigated disaster. Despite his public prediction that the team would compete for the playoffs in 2014, they recorded the worst season in the history of this proud franchise. Then, despite his vaunted recruiting powers, he was unable to even land a meeting with most of the sought-after free agents, settling for a backup plan at center (Robin Lopez, who has been excellent), and afterthoughts in Arron Afflalo (who has been quite bad), and Derrick Williams. The result of these signings was yet another 50 loss season and the midseason firing of his own hand-picked coach. And while this 32 win season was a 15 win improvement from last year, it was still 5 wins fewer than the “disaster” of the 2013-14 season that led to Mr. Jackson’s hiring in the first place.

Worse, however, is that the team regressed after a strong start this season, which belies the notion that the players just needed time to learn the Triangle. Despite his assertions that the team ran the offense with more conviction after Mr. Rambis became coach, the won-loss record and other statistics show that the team actually performed worse on both offense and defense under Mr. Rambis as opposed to under Mr. Fisher. While there may be some “small sample size” confounders partially underlying this difference, it’s very difficult to suggest with any objective evidence that anything was actually better under Mr. Rambis.

Second – regarding his performance as a talent evaluator AND negotiator (I group these skills together since they are irrevocably tied to each other), I present these with hindsight, since the job of a talented executive is not just to react to the present, but to anticipate.

The good:

Certainly the drafting of Kristaps Porzingis – the most promising Knicks draft pick since Patrick Ewing
Finding Langston Galloway from the undrafted pool (more on this later)
Signing Lance Thomas (more on this later)
Trading Tim Hardaway Jr. for a first round pick (Jerian Grant)
Signing Robin Lopez to an excellent 4 year contract.

The bad:

1) The trade of Tyson Chandler and Raymond Felton for Jose Calderon, Shane Larkin, Thanasis Antetokounmpo, and Cleanthony Early. On its face this was not the worst trade in the world, since Larkin was a mid-1st round pick just one draft earlier, and the second round picks could be considered as lottery tickets for a team that needed young talent. However, trading for Jose Calderon and his contract that runs through 2016-17 has been extremely crippling for the franchise. There is not one GM in the league that would look at Calderon as anything but a liability on the court and on the payroll at this point. Larkin has talent, but has always best performed as a pick and roll player – a skill that is deprecated in the Triangle. He was such a misfit in the system that he was let go for nothing the next summer. The second round draft picks have not proven that they are NBA players despite 2 full years in the Knicks system.
And while Mr. Chandler has not played well this season (seemingly justifying his trade “a year too early rather than a year too late”), he could easily just have been let go without any cap ramifications this past offseason, or more likely, traded at the deadline last season – a deadline that saw a far inferior player (Timofey Mozgov) garner two first round picks in trade. Ultimately, this was a criminal misreading of Calderon’s remaining skillset and of Chandler’s potential market. One might defend Mr. Jackson by saying that Chandler did not have the proper skillset to play in the Triangle, so he was trading him while he still had some value, but this is contradicted by the fact that Mr. Jackson tried to sign Deandre Jordan – a player with a very similar skillset to Chandler – in free agency.

2) Finding and then not locking up Langston Galloway – Galloway is, in my mind, the exact type of player I would want on the Knicks. He is self-made, humble, and obviously works very hard. Kudos to Mr. Jackson and his staff on finding him and giving him an opportunity. However, if he had signed him to a multi-year contract (likely even at the minimum, or even just above the minimum as we did Lance Thomas and Lou Amundson), we would not have to worry about either overpaying him (via a Gilbert Arenas provision) or losing him to another team this summer.

3) Signing Lance Thomas to a 1 year contract – Thomas is, like Galloway, someone who could be an integral part of a championship team. His improvement under this regime has been undeniable, and his professionalism and other intangibles have been much lauded. However, it would be disingenuous of Mr. Jackson and his team to take much credit for his signing. First, he was actually released after the trade with Oklahoma City, exposing him to any team out there that wanted his services. Second, if Mr. Jackson had any inkling that he would make this kind of improvement, he would have signed him to a multi-year deal, just like he should have done with Mr. Galloway. It seems possible and likely that we will lose Mr. Thomas in free agency this offseason because of this mistake. As it is, Lance Thomas’s improvement has the look of good and unexpected fortune, not good management.

4) The signings of Derrick Williams and Arron Afflalo – These have not been “bad” signings in that they have played up to or close to their market value this season. However, signing them to a two year contract with a 2nd year player option removed any possibility of significant upside for the franchise. Even under the best of circumstances, the players would play very well for one year and then we would still have to compete against a market flush with cap space to retain their services at or above market value. The worst case scenario has come to pass with Mr. Afflalo – he has not played particularly well, and yet we are still at his mercy regarding whether he will stay or go.

5) The signing of Carmelo Anthony with a no trade clause – I am a huge Carmelo nthony fan and think he has been unjustifiably criticized both as a player and a person. I am NOT one of the fans who think he is overpaid. However, giving a player a no-trade clause absolutely hamstrings an organization if, as in this case, a reset button is being contemplated.
Each of these mistakes could be justified in isolation, but in total, they paint a picture of an executive who perhaps has good instincts but does not have foresight – the type of foresight that, for example, allowed the Warriors and Grizzlies to sign Stephen Curry and Mike Conley Jr., respectively, to what have been proven to be vastly undermarket contracts. There are many examples of this kind of foresight around the league, but none here in New York under Mr. Jackson’s leadership. In addition, he does not seem to have the requisite strong negotiation skills that would allow the team to incrementally improve (without needing to make dramatic and usually high-risk/expensive moves) by making shrewd, team-friendly deals in both trade and contract negotiations.
Third – what does this mean for the future?

One of the major selling points of Mr. Jackson’s hire was that he would bring stability to an organization that has had far too much turmoil. Yet, the only thing that has been “stable” since his arrival is his devotion to his beloved offensive system (more on this in a moment). The roster has turned over multiple times, with many changes certain to come this offseason also – a very common occurrence in today’s NBA. He has already fired his own handpicked coach not 4 months into his 2nd season.
Even in this (most recent) lost season, there was a wild inconsistency in what the goals should be. For instance – after the goal of making the playoffs was clearly unrealistic, why would Mr. Rambis (and by extension, Mr. Jackson), not give young players more minutes until he was actually taken aside by veterans and asked to do so (which must be an unprecedented event NBA history)? If the goal was to “sustain a winning culture” and not player development, why did Mr. Rambis insist that Kristaps Porzingis do things on the court that the current administration has already said he is not yet physically ready to do (post-up, play inside, etc.) but that Mr. Rambis perceived would be in his best interest for future seasons?

For the future:
The one thing that Mr. Jackson clearly did right was drafting Kristaps Porzingis. As such, there is literally no more important job for the franchise over the next few years than the careful development of KP while he still has the cover of playing with a star like Carmelo Anthony in his prime — much like Kawhi Leonard was nurtured slowly into superstardom while playing with the Spurs’ veteran stars.
And this is why we are at a crossroads right now. This next coaching staff will determine how and in what ways KP expands and improves his game. By extension, this next coaching staff may very well determine whether KP decides to stay a New York Knick when his rookie contract expires. Can this be left to Phil Jackson, who may be gone within a year or two, whether by his choice or yours? Can this be left to Kurt Rambis, who has no record at all for player development as a head coach and has the 5th worst winning percentage of any coach with 200+ games coached in NBA history?

The New York Knicks are one of the flagship franchises in all of professional sports. They have a bona fide superstar in Carmelo Anthony, one of the brightest young prospects in the game in Kristaps Porzingis, and significant cap money to spend. This head coaching job should be one of the most sought after positions in the NBA. And yet, the most likely head coaching candidate’s major (and only) qualifications are that he is “simpatico” with Phil Jackson and that his wife is good friends with Lakers executive Jeannie Buss. While having a close relationship between front office and head coach seems a noble goal, it’s fair to point out that Mr. Jackson’s own strained relationship with Jerry Krause seemed to work out well to the tune of 6 championships.
It’s also fair to ask whether Kurt Rambis would garner any consideration for head coach for any other franchise in the league. As Steve Jobs, perhaps the most famous and successful CEO of recent American history has said:
A players hire A players; B players hire C players; and C players hire D players. It doesn’t take long to get to Z players. This trickle-down effect causes bozo explosions in companies.
This is not an indictment of Kurt Rambis, who I’m sure is a fine man and is probably a somewhat competent basketball coach. This is an indictment of what Mr. Jackson has admitted will be the process of choosing the next coach. What does it mean when a supposed “A player” wants to hire someone who is at best a “C player”? And what kind of assistant coaching talent will a “C player” be able to recruit, and what are the downstream implications of that in terms of player development?
Fans are not asking that Mr. Jackson abandon his principles. In fact, I would only ask that he heed his own words:
Always keep an open mind and a compassionate heart.
Approach the game with no preset agendas and you’ll probably come away surprised at your overall efforts.
While it is possible that he is just trolling the media (and fans), his defiant words over the last 2 years indicate a man who is so sure that his way is right that he refuses to listen to anyone outside his echo chamber. He has said that he will not even consider coaches that are not within his ever-dwindling tree of former players and coaches. The problem is – even if he is right, even if the Triangle is a higher level of basketball – the players in the league don’t believe it. Most of his own players from his championship teams don’t believe it. Michael Jordan isn’t running the Triangle in Charlotte. Shaquille O’Neal has said the Triangle is great only if you have the best players. Steve Kerr has incorporated aspects of the Triangle in Golden State (as have many teams), but is running his own system otherwise with great success.
Championships in all team sports come down to talent AND coaching AND system. The most talented players in the league are not seriously looking at the Knicks as a desired destination. This is not because of the media, as was suggested by Mr. Jackson in last week’s press conference – it’s because by Rambis’s own admission, the Triangle is difficult to learn (“it takes a year”), which is extremely undesirable in a league that now has so much roster turnover each season (not to mention practice time devoted to learning an unfamiliar system can’t be spent on defense, which has been the real problem over the last few years). It’s because the Triangle has the perception of being an overly technical and outdated system that has failed everywhere it didn’t have the best talent in the league. Despite Mr. Jackson’s 11 rings, players don’t perceive the Knicks as their best chance to win as a team and succeed as individuals, and so they go elsewhere. Without talent, no system has a chance of succeeding. Perception becomes reality.

In closing (and my humble solution):

As a lifelong Knicks fan, and with all due respect, my hope is that you will consider releasing Mr. Jackson from his position, and give serious consideration to bringing back Jeff Van Gundy.
Like Phil Jackson, he is connected to a cherished period in New York Knicks history. He has rought a lot of joy to Knicks fans, to New York City, and I would guess to you as well.
Like Phil Jackson, he inspired unquestioned devotion from his players. He is a man that has literally gone to the deck in
defense of his players.
He will clearly work day and night, through the season and offseason, to bring glory back to this franchise.
He already has a record of success with this franchise in this market with this level of media scrutiny.
He will not embarrass the organization and the fan base on social media or justify late night tweets by saying, in an actual interview, that “goink” is an urban sexual term, not just a typo.
He has no devotion to any sacred theory of basketball and no agenda to prove other than that aggressive lock-down defense, good habits, and hard work will bring good results. These are values that New Yorkers feel deep in their collective souls. This would be a hiring that would bring excitement, and most importantly, success back to New York Knicks basketball.
I would understand if you are wary of bringing Mr. Van Gundy back because of the circumstances under which he left – however, I would consider his heartfelt words about his regrets over that decision and give him and your long-suffering, hopelessly loyal Knicks fans a chance at a new beginning.
Sincerely yours,
Frank L.
Lifelong Knicks fan
UPDATE: This letter was written (and sent to James Dolan) before the recent news about the interview with David Blatt. I would be fully in support of his hire.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/28/2016  6:09 PM
I'm sick of "knick" fans. We used to be the most knowledgeable.... now the majority of fans out there are just espn slaves and drama queens. "Bring back Jeff van gundy"... Phil Jackson sucks.... respectfully just go follow another team. Makes me sick all this garbage. Seriously though and "open letter to Dolan".... gtfoh with that. So damn corny
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4/28/2016  6:15 PM
STRAIGHT TRASH!!! This is the kind of crap that drives me freakin crazy! Last thing we need is to make Dolan feel he needs to get involved again! Is this guy F'n NUTZ??? DOLAN???

These fans don't deserve a great Knicks team. They do this BS every damn time the team has a chance to start over. How about we just stay with a direction and let it play out? We literally just got started with this new direction and already these fans are up in arms. For once can we let a GM/Prez do their job without Dolan butting in??? How has that EVER helped?

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4/28/2016  6:16 PM
Mr Dolan don't listen to Frank. He hasn't a clue and you finally did good bringing Phil Jackson and staying out of his way. Keep it up Mr Dolan and you just might get to raise the Trophy. Once again thank you sincerely for staying out of Phil's way.

PS don't listen to Melo, IT and idiot fans who have no clue.

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4/28/2016  6:25 PM
EnySpree wrote:I'm sick of "knick" fans. We used to be the most knowledgeable.... now the majority of fans out there are just espn slaves and drama queens. "Bring back Jeff van gundy"... Phil Jackson sucks.... respectfully just go follow another team. Makes me sick all this garbage. Seriously though and "open letter to Dolan".... gtfoh with that. So damn corny

Yeah agreed, Knicks fans seem to be getting dumber

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4/28/2016  6:28 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/28/2016  6:38 PM
If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're smart. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.
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4/28/2016  6:31 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're stupid. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/28/2016  6:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/28/2016  6:39 PM
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're stupid. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

NO!!! How about just recognizing this is DUMB ISH! To even think about bringing Dolan into this should automatically invalidate anything this fan had to say!!! WTF did we go thru in the years Dolan was interfering? How short is your memory that you can't realize what a bad idea it is to be calling for Dolan to get back involved? No! HELL NO!!!

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4/28/2016  6:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/28/2016  6:39 PM
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're smart. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

I know but that edit button makes me look smarter.

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My thing is.... for 15 years we wanted Dolan to go away and let a basketball mind take over. We had that in Donny Walsh but Dolan stepped in. Dolan acknowledged he screwed up and is giving Phil Jackson full reign to run the franchise. So far he's done just that.

Oh no now fans want Dolan to interfere? Wtf is going on? It infuriates me. Makes me ****ing sick. I know guys from other forums, friends, family, Co workers.... they want phil fired and Mark Jackson the coach and that's supposed to solve all the problems.

Absolutely sick and tired of that bull****

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4/28/2016  6:44 PM
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're stupid. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

NO!!! How about just recognizing this is DUMB ISH! To even think about bringing Dolan into this should automatically invalidate anything this fan had to say!!! WTF did we go thru in the years Dolan was interfering? How short is your memory that you can't realize what a bad idea it is to be calling for Dolan to get back involved? No! HELL NO!!!

Dolan or Phil it's all the same thing two stubborn egomaniacs who likely will not change. I think Dolan likes a scapegoat now and will not go back. If it is true that Dolan has his eye on Ujiri then he may be growing up. I personally would like Morey(Pres.)and Hinkie(GM) but I what do I know. It's not like I have 11 ringz.

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4/28/2016  6:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/28/2016  6:46 PM
15 ****ing years....

I cant ****ing believe this ****.

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4/28/2016  6:58 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're stupid. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

NO!!! How about just recognizing this is DUMB ISH! To even think about bringing Dolan into this should automatically invalidate anything this fan had to say!!! WTF did we go thru in the years Dolan was interfering? How short is your memory that you can't realize what a bad idea it is to be calling for Dolan to get back involved? No! HELL NO!!!

Dolan or Phil it's all the same thing two stubborn egomaniacs who likely will not change. I think Dolan likes a scapegoat now and will not go back. If it is true that Dolan has his eye on Ujiri then he may be growing up. I personally would like Morey(Pres.)and Hinkie(GM) but I what do I know. It's not like I have 11 ringz.

You make jokes about 11 rings but you know what? YOU DONT HAVE 11 RINGS!!! Neither does Morey or Hinkie! WTF do any of them know about championship teams? Can we at least let the guy who does have 11 rings finish what he's started???

I can't believe what I read on this forum sometimes. We finally got a true BASKETBALL MAN running things and still fans aren't happy. They start doing the same crap that makes Dolan panic and do dumb crap! Phil may eventually fail but he deserves a chance to complete his vision for the team. I see no benefit to wasting the last 2 years and starting down some unknown path before we see how Phil's plan actually works out.

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4/28/2016  7:01 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/28/2016  7:03 PM
So we really wanna fire everyone and bring in Isiah Thomas clones? I'd that really happening? That's what we been doing for 15 years. So tell the truth! You want to follow the drama. You don't love the Knicks. You want the Knicks to stay the desperate housewifes of the nba.being a loser is more fun than trying to win.

Sick and tired of this dumb ****

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4/28/2016  7:02 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're stupid. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

NO!!! How about just recognizing this is DUMB ISH! To even think about bringing Dolan into this should automatically invalidate anything this fan had to say!!! WTF did we go thru in the years Dolan was interfering? How short is your memory that you can't realize what a bad idea it is to be calling for Dolan to get back involved? No! HELL NO!!!

Dolan or Phil it's all the same thing two stubborn egomaniacs who likely will not change. I think Dolan likes a scapegoat now and will not go back. If it is true that Dolan has his eye on Ujiri then he may be growing up. I personally would like Morey(Pres.)and Hinkie(GM) but I what do I know. It's not like I have 11 ringz.

Ujiri would be really nice (when phil moves on). I wonder if he will keep Rambis or keep the smoothly implemented triang??

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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nixluva wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're stupid. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

NO!!! How about just recognizing this is DUMB ISH! To even think about bringing Dolan into this should automatically invalidate anything this fan had to say!!! WTF did we go thru in the years Dolan was interfering? How short is your memory that you can't realize what a bad idea it is to be calling for Dolan to get back involved? No! HELL NO!!!

Dolan or Phil it's all the same thing two stubborn egomaniacs who likely will not change. I think Dolan likes a scapegoat now and will not go back. If it is true that Dolan has his eye on Ujiri then he may be growing up. I personally would like Morey(Pres.)and Hinkie(GM) but I what do I know. It's not like I have 11 ringz.

You make jokes about 11 rings but you know what? YOU DONT HAVE 11 RINGS!!! Neither does Morey or Hinkie! WTF do any of them know about championship teams? Can we at least let the guy who does have 11 rings finish what he's started???

I can't believe what I read on this forum sometimes. We finally got a true BASKETBALL MAN running things and still fans aren't happy. They start doing the same crap that makes Dolan panic and do dumb crap! Phil may eventually fail but he deserves a chance to complete his vision for the team. I see no benefit to wasting the last 2 years and starting down some unknown path before we see how Phil's plan actually works out.


You know who doesn't have 11 rings as a President of Basketball operations Phil Jackson. You know who has never reached the playoffs despite that being his main goal the last two years, Phil Jackson. If he is willing to make jokes about other people based on what he did as a coach then he opened the door for the joke to be used against him. How's that goink? Phil will remain the the Prez regardless of what I post or you post.

A true basketball man, maybe but what does that even mean. There are a lot of true basketball men that are unsuccessful. Give me a Good Prez who is open minded and knows what he is doing and is willing to evolve. If Phil does step back and actual hire someone out of his circle then he deserves relief from fans but if he hires Rambis/Shaw then he deserves what he gets from fans who think he is close minded. I am willing to play it out but Morey/Hinkie are still my choices if Phils leaves/fired.

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martin wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I'm sick of "knick" fans. We used to be the most knowledgeable.... now the majority of fans out there are just espn slaves and drama queens. "Bring back Jeff van gundy"... Phil Jackson sucks.... respectfully just go follow another team. Makes me sick all this garbage. Seriously though and "open letter to Dolan".... gtfoh with that. So damn corny

Yeah agreed, Knicks fans seem to be getting dumber

Agree. Also, is it me or has the quality of content at Knickerblogger declined recently? Seems like some new writers have come on board and it has become a lot more ordinary then it used to be in my opinion.
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yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're stupid. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

NO!!! How about just recognizing this is DUMB ISH! To even think about bringing Dolan into this should automatically invalidate anything this fan had to say!!! WTF did we go thru in the years Dolan was interfering? How short is your memory that you can't realize what a bad idea it is to be calling for Dolan to get back involved? No! HELL NO!!!

Dolan or Phil it's all the same thing two stubborn egomaniacs who likely will not change. I think Dolan likes a scapegoat now and will not go back. If it is true that Dolan has his eye on Ujiri then he may be growing up. I personally would like Morey(Pres.)and Hinkie(GM) but I what do I know. It's not like I have 11 ringz.

You make jokes about 11 rings but you know what? YOU DONT HAVE 11 RINGS!!! Neither does Morey or Hinkie! WTF do any of them know about championship teams? Can we at least let the guy who does have 11 rings finish what he's started???

I can't believe what I read on this forum sometimes. We finally got a true BASKETBALL MAN running things and still fans aren't happy. They start doing the same crap that makes Dolan panic and do dumb crap! Phil may eventually fail but he deserves a chance to complete his vision for the team. I see no benefit to wasting the last 2 years and starting down some unknown path before we see how Phil's plan actually works out.


You know who doesn't have 11 rings as a President of Basketball operations Phil Jackson. You know who has never reached the playoffs despite that being his main goal the last two years, Phil Jackson. If he is willing to make jokes about other people based on what he did as a coach then he opened the door for the joke to be used against him. How's that goink? Phil will remain the the Prez regardless of what I post or you post.

A true basketball man, maybe but what does that even mean. There are a lot of true basketball men that are unsuccessful. Give me a Good Prez who is open minded and knows what he is doing and is willing to evolve. If Phil does step back and actual hire someone out of his circle then he deserves relief from fans but if he hires Rambis/Shaw then he deserves what he gets from fans who think he is close minded. I am willing to play it out but Morey/Hinkie are still my choices if Phils leaves/fired.

We're all entitled to our opinions, but writing letters to Dolan in an effort to get him to get back involved in Basketball decisions is bad news.

Phil literally just started and it hasn't been as bad as you and others want to make it out to be. The BEST thing to happen to this franchise in 15 years was losing last year and drafting KP. If Phil had decided to stick with the team he inherited and add some vets to that mix perhaps they win enough games to make the playoffs, but really so what??? I wouldn't take back any of the losing if it meant no KP.

This last season started off OK and so things went south! We still learned a lot about the roster. We saw what works and what needs to be fixed. IMO this team is closer to winning than many make it out to be. IMO this franchise is headed in the right direction. We now know that the team needs upgrades to the backcourt. There are far fewer holes going into this summer than there were last summer so that is progress. LET THE MAN FINISH!

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4/28/2016  7:28 PM
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
mreinman wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:If you do not agree with me you're dumb but if you do agree with me you're stupid. Ah fans, they are never wrong and never right.

your dumb too btw ...

NO!!! How about just recognizing this is DUMB ISH! To even think about bringing Dolan into this should automatically invalidate anything this fan had to say!!! WTF did we go thru in the years Dolan was interfering? How short is your memory that you can't realize what a bad idea it is to be calling for Dolan to get back involved? No! HELL NO!!!

Dolan or Phil it's all the same thing two stubborn egomaniacs who likely will not change. I think Dolan likes a scapegoat now and will not go back. If it is true that Dolan has his eye on Ujiri then he may be growing up. I personally would like Morey(Pres.)and Hinkie(GM) but I what do I know. It's not like I have 11 ringz.

Ujiri would be really nice (when phil moves on). I wonder if he will keep Rambis or keep the smoothly implemented triang??

So let's hire Ujiri in 3 years? Are we planning life after Phil when we're still trying to rebuild now?

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4/28/2016  7:38 PM
I have solid confidence in Phil Jackson. The man was hired for 5 years and the bottom lime is that it takes a long time to turn things around. The end
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