Vmart wrote:Retire already. If loyalty=wins then Melo can retire as a Knicks unfortunately it doesn't Phil knows he can't get out from that dumb contract he signed Melo to fast enough.

that contract is on phil not on melo.

melo needs to continue passing the ball but he also needs to shoot a much much better pct from the floor. Still too many low pct shots and also too much dead legs. Need to get stronger legs and rest him more.

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:Retire already. If loyalty=wins then Melo can retire as a Knicks unfortunately it doesn't Phil knows he can't get out from that dumb contract he signed Melo to fast enough.

that contract is on phil not on melo.

melo needs to continue passing the ball but he also needs to shoot a much much better pct from the floor. Still too many low pct shots and also too much dead legs. Need to get stronger legs and rest him more.

Remember when Phil was a genius for getting Melo to sign for $6M less than the max?

Now it's Melo's fault he has a big contract and a no trade clause. I wonder how he got such things???

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Vmart wrote:Retire already. If loyalty=wins then Melo can retire as a Knicks unfortunately it doesn't Phil knows he can't get out from that dumb contract he signed Melo to fast enough.

that contract is on phil not on melo.

melo needs to continue passing the ball but he also needs to shoot a much much better pct from the floor. Still too many low pct shots and also too much dead legs. Need to get stronger legs and rest him more.

Remember when Phil was a genius for getting Melo to sign for $6M less than the max?

Now it's Melo's fault he has a big contract and a no trade clause. I wonder how he got such things???

That is why I said dumb contract. I'm not blaming Melo, I'm hoping he doesn't hold the organization hostage. The smart thing to do is chase a ring instead of rebuilding and cashing checks. He can chase a ring and cash checks somewhere else.

if we cannot contend, allow CA to persue a Ring to teams with draft picks (maybe multi team deal) where we get cap space/draft picks/young guys
Continue to acquire continued development players, as well as develop our own talent, that could be part of our future and help play and execute the style of play Phil envisions as a team
In the end, we will need TOP TIER talents IMO like the ones Phil Jackson had with his rings that he leaves out when he gives the Triangle a bit TOO MUCH CREDIT rather than the talent with his rosters

Assuming we cannot land Luke Walton
maybe convince Pau Gasol to me our future head coach and reunite him with his former team mates as development/assistant coaches
as he could be used to develop KP as KP gets stronger/better

Maybe add in some former Triangle disciples as well along with quality development coaches and let the process develop

Vmart wrote:

RonRon wrote:at the time it was a lot of money for CA's contract
however, with the rise of the cap these next couple of years who knows what kind of contracts will be given out
with all these teams with so much to spent on players

The numbers still don't correlate to his salary. Even with the cap up. A good player getting superstar money not much different that the H20 contract.

I am just saying, what will Battum, Conley, etc make this summer?
What will Kent Baezemore make?

MKG at 15m+
Tobias Harris and DeMaRRe Carroll's contracts?
Harrison Barnes contract?

the huge difference is the ENTIRE LEAGUE will have money to spend when evaluating a contract
so many players will get overpaid, one way or another, its hard to justify what a contract/player is worth in these next couple of seasons with the cap going up 20m each year

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/725691541424070656

I must say that I have actually started liking the guy ... crazy ... I know.

I hated melo before he became a knick, but how can you hate a guy that wants to be here, is loyal and wants to win, just because he didn't to take this great big pay cut, he gets a lot of hate.

I never knock anybody over making more $

how about getting overpaid? he could have taken a whole lot less and still be wealthy beyond imagining.

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/725691541424070656

I must say that I have actually started liking the guy ... crazy ... I know.

I hated melo before he became a knick, but how can you hate a guy that wants to be here, is loyal and wants to win, just because he didn't to take this great big pay cut, he gets a lot of hate.

I never knock anybody over making more $

how about getting overpaid? he could have taken a whole lot less and still be wealthy beyond imagining.

he could have but he didn't. Very few guys give discounts and he was not one of them. Get over it. What he did was rational and common.

saying that rich guys should give up their money because if they do they will still be rich just shows that you are not rich and have no idea what it means to be rich. Rich people don't just give up their money.

What I would give to see Melo avg 5 ast for a year if this is how you post after him avg 4+ ast. #ThisEinman

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/725691541424070656

I must say that I have actually started liking the guy ... crazy ... I know.

I hated melo before he became a knick, but how can you hate a guy that wants to be here, is loyal and wants to win, just because he didn't to take this great big pay cut, he gets a lot of hate.

I never knock anybody over making more $

how about getting overpaid? he could have taken a whole lot less and still be wealthy beyond imagining.

he could have but he didn't. Very few guys give discounts and he was not one of them. Get over it. What he did was rational and common.

saying that rich guys should give up their money because if they do they will still be rich just shows that you are not rich and have no idea what it means to be rich. Rich people don't just give up their money.

In majority of the cases of players taking less money. They did so because they were already in a winning situation and were convinced or decided to take less in order to get them over the hump. If we named the players that took less I can bet that the ones named are on teams who built up equity and credibility with them. And not many cases (if any) of a player taking less in hopes that the team will eventually be able to hopefully make something happen. Or make sacrifices in order to protect the team from its own stupidity.

mreinman wrote:

dk7th wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

mreinman wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/725691541424070656

I must say that I have actually started liking the guy ... crazy ... I know.

I hated melo before he became a knick, but how can you hate a guy that wants to be here, is loyal and wants to win, just because he didn't to take this great big pay cut, he gets a lot of hate.

I never knock anybody over making more $

how about getting overpaid? he could have taken a whole lot less and still be wealthy beyond imagining.

he could have but he didn't. Very few guys give discounts and he was not one of them. Get over it. What he did was rational and common.

saying that rich guys should give up their money because if they do they will still be rich just shows that you are not rich and have no idea what it means to be rich. Rich people don't just give up their money.

yellowboy90 wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

93BUICK wrote:

nixluva wrote:I think MELO should stay. He can ride this out with KP eventually taking over. Things should improve steadily over the next few years.

No reason it can't be a smooth transition Like D Robinson/Tim Duncan --- as long as they start winning.

Transition what exactly? 17 win seasons?