TPercy wrote:nixluva wrote:TPercy wrote:Notice how there was barely any triangle in the second half.
You mean Side Triangle??? The sets they ran are plays in the Triangle offense. This team doesn't just make ish up. They have other sets in this offense.
So constant pick and roll was is now part of the Triangle??
So the whole league runs the triangle?
No what he's saying is factually correct. What you have in the Triangle or the one Phil's teams have run is a basic sideline formation. You can call this the strong or overloaded side, since 3 guys are on this side. Think of the other side as the "weak" side and since there are only 2 players left, this is the 2 man game option side. What we did in the 2nd half was focus almost exclusively on this side. Run screen/rolls with Melo/Lopez. Galloway would have the ball and feed Melo. Or Melo would feed Afflalo in the post. These are all 2 players working with each other in either setting the other up with an isolation (or post up) or the screen/roll being run. The other 3 guys mostly stay in their spot in the sideline. If the player in the post in the sideline - his man if he leaves him, it's usually a wide open dunk for them as they can just cut straight under the basket (we saw this happen for some of the guys tonight).
Essentially this is also a version of the Triangle but it's the far far more predictable and less complicated one. It's also the type of sequence where you'd see more ball dribbling, or ball monopolization. This is basically how Kobe would go off for 30 points in a half. He'd just set himself up or have the team set him up again and again in the weakside and usually isolate again and again. And not a damn thing the opposing team could do because if they doubled he knew exactly where his teammates would be. It's the simplest and most naturally fitting way to run the sideline Triangle in the modern NBA. I don't think it will be at all easy for the Knicks to get free agents to come in and fit in or young players or even Melo to grasp the more complicated sets. Maybe after a couple of years. But again, you change a couple of teammates and you're right back to square one. Just much much easier to exploit the weakside/2 man game aspect of the Triangle offense set up. If ofcourse you have that sort of scoring wing player that can pass - which we certainly do in Melo.
I honestly can't see us run it any different unless we get a great big man post player who can pass. In that case then you can then form the sideline Triangle with that big inside, utilize his post game with post entry passes and run the basic motion. We try to do that a ton, and it usually ends up with Seraphin, Lopez, Porzingis or someone like that isolating or trying to make a pass (Only Porzingis has shown good passing instincts from a post position). With the talent the Knicks have right now, dumping the ball in the post in the sideline Triangle or trying to use the ball from strong side to weak rarely gets good shots for them. Just work the weakside, and to keep the defense guessing, keep changing/alternating who the 2 players who run the 2 man games are. Very simple for this team to grasp and they have the talent for it.