clyderules wrote:It says that he's in Fisher's doghouse. With all the rest of them. I'd rather see his energy and athleticism than watching Sasha. And he's young with a possible future.

CrushAlot wrote:

clyderules wrote:It says that he's in Fisher's doghouse. With all the rest of them. I'd rather see his energy and athleticism than watching Sasha. And he's young with a possible future.

Well it is either on Fisher or Early. I don't think players should get a pass because they are young and might have potential. I am on the fence about Fisher and he has been very inconsistent in who he plays on the second unit but he has been consistent in not suiting up Early.

maybe early has an issue that we don't see. From the outside looking in, it does not look pretty.

mreinman wrote:

clyderules wrote:Sasha has issues that we all see.

but but he knows the triangle

And there's the rub! How many good players has Phil passed on because they weren't good fits for the triangle? And how many lousy players has he acquired because they do fit? Why not tailor the system to the best talent and not vice versa?

knickscity wrote:

clyderules wrote:

mreinman wrote:

clyderules wrote:Sasha has issues that we all see.

but but he knows the triangle

And there's the rub! How many good players has Phil passed on because they weren't good fits for the triangle? And how many lousy players has he acquired because they do fit? Why not tailor the system to the best talent and not vice versa?

Phil wanted Deandre Jordan, who fits the triangle in no way form or fashion. He signed Lopez who fits the triangle no way form or fashion. He rightly passed on the perfect fit in Monroe.

I guess you can say Phil passed on LMA.

In the end I think our interest in the Triangle, and Triangle compatible players has been exaggerated, and a guy we actually talked to- Jordan- hardly fit the Triangle profile, as you say, yet Phil was more interested in him (to my surprise) than guys like Monroe and LMA who were a better fit, IMO.

Glad we did not get Monroe, and you can make the case that KP has been playing well enough, and shows enough potential, that it would have been a waste of money to sign Aldridge this year, and, more importantly, for the future.

Vmart wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Vmart wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Relax, guys. The Heat are just a better team than the Knicks.

I'm not sure they are better just better coached. How do you start your top guys all on the bench in the 4th quarter.

No, trust me. The Heat are better. They have two hall of famers in their starting lineup, the league's leading shot blocker, a coveted FA point guard and Luol Deng, Gerald Green, or Justice Winslow to plug in at SF. They have a coach and two stars intact from the team that went to four NBA finals in a row and won two of them. They are better than the Knicks right now.

This is not about substitution patterns. They are a far better team.

Could the Knicks have played better? Yes. Could they have beaten the Heat? It would've taken a lot. A Lot.

The voice of reason.

If you picked the Knicks to win this match, then you are delusional (I do admit I didn't expect a 20 point loss). All we can hope for is for the Knicks to continue to show improvement as the season goes on.

Delusional is not the right word optimistic maybe. Look Miami is an ok team at best. They have the Knicks number. But if you watch the game you will see that they did nothing exceptional and the Knicks with poor rotation and once again poor preparation failed. This game wasn't about the Heat winning it was more about the Knicks bring poor effort from top to bottom. How can a team be in it at half and then just not show for the second half. Fisher isn't very good at coaching I get that he is still green under the collar. But that can no longer be the reason for losses and he needs to do better. This is absolutely not acceptable losing home games by 20 points is no longer acceptable.

I stopped reading at "Miami is an ok team." they will be playing Cleveland for the Easter conference championship when it's all said and done and if they have D-Wade and C.Bosh healthy at that time they'll have a good chance of winning the east.

They won't be in the ECF. It's an ok team because Wade is put together with scotch tape and will go down once or twice in the season. If Spolestra is a bad coach or isn't very good what is Fisher then. Rebuilding means a total tear down and everything new over span of years. For me rebuilding means going into draft year after year and building the team from core up. What the Knicks have done is not rebuilding but have rebuilt in one season. Rebuilding constitutes years in the making. With contracts offered up and vets with no first round pick this is a complete product.

As for Bosh being HOF that is debatable. For me he is borderline. But in the NBA he will get in just as Melo will. All good player eventually get in.

Hahahaha wow you sure are smart. So the Knicks aren't rebuilding they're rebuilt?? Hahahaha So then that's it this is the team that Phil has rebuilt and he's alllllll done right?? Why am i even replying to you when your basketball knowledge is obviously still in the beginner stages?? Well keep at it kid and you'll get there......maybe not.

I'll give you some more information to chew on. Sasha Vujacic is getting run and Early is in a suit, tell me more about rebuilding. A rebuilding team plays its young players not washed up players.

Exactly..

knickscity wrote:

clyderules wrote:

mreinman wrote:

clyderules wrote:Sasha has issues that we all see.

but but he knows the triangle

And there's the rub! How many good players has Phil passed on because they weren't good fits for the triangle? And how many lousy players has he acquired because they do fit? Why not tailor the system to the best talent and not vice versa?

Phil wanted Deandre Jordan, who fits the triangle in no way form or fashion. He signed Lopez who fits the triangle no way form or fashion. He rightly passed on the perfect fit in Monroe.

I guess you can say Phil passed on LMA.

who says that Jordan did not fit the profile? I think that he definitely did. Rodman fit the profile, no?

knicks1248 wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

Vmart wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Vmart wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

Vmart wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

Vmart wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Relax, guys. The Heat are just a better team than the Knicks.

I'm not sure they are better just better coached. How do you start your top guys all on the bench in the 4th quarter.

No, trust me. The Heat are better. They have two hall of famers in their starting lineup, the league's leading shot blocker, a coveted FA point guard and Luol Deng, Gerald Green, or Justice Winslow to plug in at SF. They have a coach and two stars intact from the team that went to four NBA finals in a row and won two of them. They are better than the Knicks right now.

This is not about substitution patterns. They are a far better team.

Could the Knicks have played better? Yes. Could they have beaten the Heat? It would've taken a lot. A Lot.

The voice of reason.

If you picked the Knicks to win this match, then you are delusional (I do admit I didn't expect a 20 point loss). All we can hope for is for the Knicks to continue to show improvement as the season goes on.

Delusional is not the right word optimistic maybe. Look Miami is an ok team at best. They have the Knicks number. But if you watch the game you will see that they did nothing exceptional and the Knicks with poor rotation and once again poor preparation failed. This game wasn't about the Heat winning it was more about the Knicks bring poor effort from top to bottom. How can a team be in it at half and then just not show for the second half. Fisher isn't very good at coaching I get that he is still green under the collar. But that can no longer be the reason for losses and he needs to do better. This is absolutely not acceptable losing home games by 20 points is no longer acceptable.

I stopped reading at "Miami is an ok team." they will be playing Cleveland for the Easter conference championship when it's all said and done and if they have D-Wade and C.Bosh healthy at that time they'll have a good chance of winning the east.

They won't be in the ECF. It's an ok team because Wade is put together with scotch tape and will go down once or twice in the season. If Spolestra is a bad coach or isn't very good what is Fisher then. Rebuilding means a total tear down and everything new over span of years. For me rebuilding means going into draft year after year and building the team from core up. What the Knicks have done is not rebuilding but have rebuilt in one season. Rebuilding constitutes years in the making. With contracts offered up and vets with no first round pick this is a complete product.

As for Bosh being HOF that is debatable. For me he is borderline. But in the NBA he will get in just as Melo will. All good player eventually get in.

Hahahaha wow you sure are smart. So the Knicks aren't rebuilding they're rebuilt?? Hahahaha So then that's it this is the team that Phil has rebuilt and he's alllllll done right?? Why am i even replying to you when your basketball knowledge is obviously still in the beginner stages?? Well keep at it kid and you'll get there......maybe not.

I'll give you some more information to chew on. Sasha Vujacic is getting run and Early is in a suit, tell me more about rebuilding. A rebuilding team plays its young players not washed up players.

What does that say about Early?

you really think Sasha should play ahead of Early? wow

knickscity wrote:

mreinman wrote:

knickscity wrote:

clyderules wrote:

mreinman wrote:

clyderules wrote:Sasha has issues that we all see.

but but he knows the triangle

And there's the rub! How many good players has Phil passed on because they weren't good fits for the triangle? And how many lousy players has he acquired because they do fit? Why not tailor the system to the best talent and not vice versa?

Phil wanted Deandre Jordan, who fits the triangle in no way form or fashion. He signed Lopez who fits the triangle no way form or fashion. He rightly passed on the perfect fit in Monroe.

I guess you can say Phil passed on LMA.

who says that Jordan did not fit the profile? I think that he definitely did. Rodman fit the profile, no?

Rodamn was a great passer, defender and rebounder, he could be counted on to make the right play. deandre is nothing like Rodman.

Jordan is a great rebounder and defender as well. Rodman was a better passer but Jordan is also a much better offensive player.

The point is that if a player has parts of their game that are top of the line, you can of course make it work.

Knicks1969 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

knickscity wrote:Bosh really hasnt played well in either game. This team doesnt defend and the offense is awful. Thats on top of a cast of players featuring some that wouldnt be on better teams.

We don't defend..dude please do your research before you post. The knicks are 9th in opp points, 3rd in opp fg%, and 2nd in defending the 3 ball. Our defense is the number one reason were not in the bottom of the standings.

Here's the TOP 5 reasons the offense has had brutal stretches

1) The coaching staff does a piss poor job at at stressing the importance of running and quicken the pace(especially when your playing from behind() Every time down court they give the defense a chance to set up, double team, and they make their job even easier by taking long mid range or off balance shots.

2) The rotation is something i never ever ever ever ever seen before, players coming in for 3 mins here 2 minutes there, no particular set time of the game. You remember the game where dwill hit back to back treys to give us a 16 point lead, then he got yanked for admundson. I could list a bunch of other head scratching substitutions

3)Are we putting the players in the right position to be successful, does galloway get enough screens, (considering he's one the best 3 point shooters in the league) why isn't calderon playing the 2g knowing he's one of the best spot up shooters in the league, plus he doesnt even penetrate so why is he soly playing pg, dwill is a scorer who plays mostly off instincts, and plays really well in a uptempo pace, affalo rarely ever gets a good screen, he has to create for himself almost every time he touches the ball, unless he's camped out at the base line 3. Grant, the best penetrator on the team, yet the paint is always crowded, because guys look lost in the triangle like they don't know exactly where they should be.

4)Kp, Affalo, Melo, why the hell would you substitute all 3, if wade was out, bosh was in, you don't take out your best scorers at the same time

5) PLAYING ADMUNDSON AND SASHA FOR THE HELL OF IT. THEY DONT BRING SHT TO THE GAME BESIDE A PLAY OR 2

PLEASE TELL ME HOW IS THIS ON THE PLAYERS???????????????????

AMEN......dude you are by far one of the few around here who get it. We have the talents and for once in a very long time we have the opportunity to shock the league, but I don't believe we have the right guy at the helm to guide us. I would feel better if fisher showed that he knows our strength, but that is not the case. If dude can find the temerity to play a lineup of Grant,Galloway, Lance or Lou, KO, and SERAPHIN, that enough proves to me that he has no clue about floor balance.

that is where you guys lose credibility.

Even if you are right about fisher, you are very wrong in how you way overestimate our talent.

knickscity wrote:Some of you guys are more delusional than I thought. The Knicks are average on defense. if we were truly elite at defense our defensive rating would be higher. The Knicks foul, they dont defend, which is why we lead the league in free throws for the opponent. Everyone drives on the guards. Whats better than a three....2 points at the rim + the foul Thats why the defense statistically looks decent, but certainly not elite. We have the worst guards in the entire league, you really think guys like Calderon and Sasha are defending the 3 well? i really cant believe what I read.

knicks are 17th in the league in giving up shots from 0-3 feet. Not terrible. Knicks are allowing their opponents the 8th lowest FG% at 0-3.

Basically, our front line is doing a fabulous job covering up for our guards.