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11/29/2015  8:21 PM
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dk7th wrote:for some of the resident huckleberries, a trip down memory lane....

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50871&page=8


Wow. Can't imagine wanting to say I told you so about something like this. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

no need to go on the offensive with the insults. you and others were wrong and have an opportunity to admit ignorance in these matters.

instead you have taken the low road, once again. what you have manifested here is shameful and unmanly.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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11/29/2015  8:26 PM
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:for some of the resident huckleberries, a trip down memory lane....

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50871&page=8


Wow. Can't imagine wanting to say I told you so about something like this. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

no need to go on the offensive with the insults. you and others were wrong and have an opportunity to admit ignorance in these matters.

instead you have taken the low road, once again. what you have manifested here is shameful and unmanly.

Wrong? The book is written for a 19yr old already? Also, pretty sure you watched him play one NCAA game where he struggled and You went after him like you do Melo.
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11/29/2015  8:57 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
dk7th wrote:for some of the resident huckleberries, a trip down memory lane....

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=50871&page=8


Wow. Can't imagine wanting to say I told you so about something like this. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

no need to go on the offensive with the insults. you and others were wrong and have an opportunity to admit ignorance in these matters.

instead you have taken the low road, once again. what you have manifested here is shameful and unmanly.

Wrong? The book is written for a 19yr old already? Also, pretty sure you watched him play one NCAA game where he struggled and You went after him like you do Melo.

he needs mentoring and adult guidance by an actual grown up. one year with coach k isn't enough.

his father obviously has maturity issues himself-- he was a mess and probably still is-- or the son would not be out of control and spiraling down in the face of adversity like he is.

magazine articles often are fluff pieces that hide the unsavory side of things or spin things in such a way that they are a substitute for redemption and personal transformation.

meanwhile... staying out all hours of the night, partying and getting drunk as an underage, driving 108 on a bridge, getting in street fights while drunk and bragging about having money.

he is a troubled kid, and i attribute it to his being exploited his entire life, by both his father and the conveyor belt. that's the book so far. he needs help and i hope he gets it, or he may end up as a footnote.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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11/30/2015  8:30 AM
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

I heard concern over his fit alongside Randall. I also heard he dogged it in his workouts with them. I think porzingis was their pick if Russell wasn't.

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11/30/2015  9:13 AM
Knixkik wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

I heard concern over his fit alongside Randall. I also heard he dogged it in his workouts with them. I think porzingis was their pick if Russell wasn't.


Kupchak was upfront on his concern about OK4's D if I remember correctly...

Also have to believe that the GS model and the rise of Curry had some impact on the Lakers' decision to take Russell...we all know that Los Angeles is a trendy town.

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11/30/2015  9:23 AM
Looks like we dodged a major bullet with this one. Who knew OK4 was a head case? Makes the KP landing so much sweeter.

I mean we all do dumb shyt when we're 19, but still...have your bodyguard or entourage member deck the guy. Guess that 1 year of Duke education didn't do him any good.

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11/30/2015  10:16 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

I heard concern over his fit alongside Randall. I also heard he dogged it in his workouts with them. I think porzingis was their pick if Russell wasn't.


Kupchak was upfront on his concern about OK4's D if I remember correctly...

Also have to believe that the GS model and the rise of Curry had some impact on the Lakers' decision to take Russell...we all know that Los Angeles is a trendy town.

Great point. Russell has been regarded as the closest thing to Curry. He may very well be. I think being in LA is hurting his development but luckily for him Kobe is retiring so that should help.

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11/30/2015  10:31 AM
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

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11/30/2015  10:47 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.


Russell is in a tough situation with the make-up of the Lakers. Kobe will be gone next year, and if Russell shows any late season promise they will have to make some other roster changes...too many guys who like to shoot on that team.

MUCH too early to consider Russell, or anyone else, to be bustworthy, as you yourself noted before making a quick turn and saying that Russell will keep the bust "streak" alive.

Snap judgement is a great radio show...http://snapjudgment.org/, but not the way to go when evaluating NBA players.

Maybe Russell never lives up to the hype, but we have a few years before we know what kind of player he really is.

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11/30/2015  10:49 AM
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/30/2015  12:13 PM
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

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11/30/2015  12:17 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/30/2015  12:54 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

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11/30/2015  1:00 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

his chances of being as good as harden is 1 in 1000

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/30/2015  1:41 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/30/2015  1:43 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

his chances of being as good as harden is 1 in 1000

Can you share with us little folk the statistical formula you used to come up with these odds?

...Or is this just hyperbole...which a true statistics person would almost never use since it illustrates a lack of certitude in the very thing they cling to and validates them?

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11/30/2015  1:47 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

his chances of being as good as harden is 1 in 1000

Can you share with us little folk the statistical formula you used to come up with these odds?

...Or is this just hyperbole...which a true statistics person would almost never use since it illustrates a lack of certitude in the very thing they cling to and validates them?

ok 1 in 600

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/30/2015  3:23 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

his chances of being as good as harden is 1 in 1000


And since Manu is also a possible future HoF'er, i think a better version of Jamal Crawford is most accurate. Let's not forget he was a 20 ppg guy in his prime and will gets some assists and rebs too. A better/more complete crawford is a top 10 SG in the league.
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11/30/2015  3:31 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

his chances of being as good as harden is 1 in 1000


And since Manu is also a possible future HoF'er, i think a better version of Jamal Crawford is most accurate. Let's not forget he was a 20 ppg guy in his prime and will gets some assists and rebs too. A better/more complete crawford is a top 10 SG in the league.

Ok ... not for me. Don't care for Jamal at all.

Perhaps Russell can be a cross between Rondo and Nick Buckets? Ich!

Russell is not a chucker he is a facilitator.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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11/30/2015  3:32 PM
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

his chances of being as good as harden is 1 in 1000


And since Manu is also a possible future HoF'er, i think a better version of Jamal Crawford is most accurate. Let's not forget he was a 20 ppg guy in his prime and will gets some assists and rebs too. A better/more complete crawford is a top 10 SG in the league.

a slightly better version of crawford still means a journeyman and a loser.

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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11/30/2015  4:41 PM
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
Knixkik wrote:
mreinman wrote:
newyorknewyork wrote:
dk7th wrote:
mreinman wrote:
dk7th wrote:can anybody explain why the lakers chose russell over okafor? was guard a position of need, and regardless don't you always draft the bigger player all other things being equal?

or did the lakers have some doubts about okafor's character? he is currently ranked towards the bottom of the league in rpm, along with mudiay, by the way.

the more i think about that draft the weirder the lakers choice becomes.

because this has become a guards league. A guy like Lillard is much more important to a team than Aldridge.

by that reasoning the sixers or the knicks should have taken mudiay.

They drafted Julius Randle the yr prior. If they draft Ok4 then they would basically be ruining of of there developments. And they wouldn't have gotten enough value out of trading Randle.

On a side note. Since 2000 or 2001, either the first or 2nd pick in the draft has been a bust in every draft. While its clearly waaaaay to early. Towns looks like a hit and Russell looks like he will keep the streak alive. I still got hope for Russell to turn it around. He seemed like a good dude.

you are very wrong about Russell IMHO. I have watched him play a lot and he is good. Hard to tell on that team now.

No doubt Russell is a very good ball player. LA is hurting him badly. I think he will carve out a nice NBA career, but could end up being considered a bust for the 2nd pick by not becoming a star. It all depends on what you consider a bust for the 2nd pick. Is a better version of Jamal Crawford or a worse version of Manu Ginobili a bust? I think he ends up being a very good starting SG regardless, maybe just not the star that Towns and Porzingis have a chance to be.

turning into a jamal would be a def bust.

I think that he will be a future hybrid guard that will be a smart efficient player that unfortunately play defense like james harden

Yes most likely, however its not fair to expect he will be as good as Harden.

his chances of being as good as harden is 1 in 1000


And since Manu is also a possible future HoF'er, i think a better version of Jamal Crawford is most accurate. Let's not forget he was a 20 ppg guy in his prime and will gets some assists and rebs too. A better/more complete crawford is a top 10 SG in the league.

Ok ... not for me. Don't care for Jamal at all.

Perhaps Russell can be a cross between Rondo and Nick Buckets? Ich!

Russell is not a chucker he is a facilitator.


Maybe more of a Goran Dragic then? Play-maker and fringe all-star on a good year. 17 ppg/5 assist/5 rebound kind of player.
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