BRIGGS wrote:

KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:I’ve already heard rumors of the Lakers liking Chris Dunn and they had a great interview with Murray. If we think back to other drafts. What did people think of Paul George or Stephen Curry? They didn’t go number one. How do we know if Murray or Hield won’t be the next Kobe Bryant. If Bender might not be the next Paul Gasol who can also shoot 3’s. I maybe wrong, but I don’t see the next Tim Duncan or Lebron in this years #1 or #2. They may appear to be better than the other players left, but time will tell if that is true. Then of course there is injuries to consider. Does Odum ring any bells or Embiid?

Hey Knicks what do you think of Allen Crabbe--he looks like a young Allan Houston. How many people here remember when Allan Houston was in the dunk contest as a alternative and did that dunk off his head?

There's alot to like about Allen Crabbe, Briggs.
He's young, just coming into his own IMO, has shown gradual improvement every year
that he's been in the league, and has great size and length for a SG.
Agreed....he's be high on my free agent radar.
Also, I like the Hornacek signing. He's a player's coach.

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wh4t wrote:I wonder if phil kept an eye on Isaiah Whitehead. He's very slept on and could possibly slip to the 2nd round.

edit: never mind, he probably doesn't fit in phil's eyes. I think Isa could be a steal though.

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combo guard
height w/o shoes 6' 3.25' height with shoes 6' 4.5'' standing reach 8' 4'' weight 210 wingspan 6' 8.75''

https://www.sny.tv/college-recruiting/news/seton-halls-isaiah-whitehead-100-percent-gone-with-first-round-guarantee/177765580

Isaiah Whitehead hasn't formally signed with an agent, but the Seton Hall sophomore guard says he's "100 percent" gone if he gets a promise to be chosen in the first round of next month's NBA Draft.

"Oh yeah, 100 percent," Whitehead said Thursday at the NBA Draft Combine after going for 13 points on 6-for-8 shooting with 5 assists, 3 rebounds and no turnovers in a 109-69 victory. "You can't give up opportunities like that. I mean, when they tell you it's time to go, you just gotta go."

He added to SNY.tv: "And anybody at Seton Hall would have to agree with me. When they tell you that you're a first-round pick, you can't turn that down."

The Brooklyn native is currently projected as the No. 65 best prospect in 2016 by DraftExpress.com, and as the No. 35 pick in 2017, but he's hoping to impress here at the Combine.

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Isaiah Whitehead has several fans in the Knicks organization, including star forward Carmelo Anthony. Whitehead has worked out with Anthony at the Knicks star's Terminal 23 gym in Manhattan. Anthony came away from the workouts impressed with the Seton Hall guard, according to people in the gym. Whitehead also worked out for the Knicks on Saturday at their training facility in Tarrytown. At 6-5, Whitehead has the kind of size that Phil Jackson coveted in his backcourt during his coaching days with the Chicago Bulls and Los Angeles Lakers. Oftentimes, the Knicks have to consider how a potential prospect will handle life in New York. That doesn't seem like it would be an issue for Whitehead. The 21-year-old thrived at Coney Island's Lincoln High School, winning a city championship at Madison Square Garden; he also was named MVP of the 2016 Big East Tournament at MSG, helping Seton Hall stun eventual national champion Villanova in the title game. By all accounts, Whitehead is well-mannered and well-liked by teammates. The Knicks, who plan to acquire a draft pick, may have to trade to a spot in the late first round to land Whitehead.

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KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Briggs,
How about Malcolm Brogdon to the Knicks?
He can do everything that Evan Turner can plus play elite defense and shoot better too. As a 4th ball handler/wing he will actually be worth his extended rookie contract and is NBA ready for this role at a bargain price. IMHO he might be better in the long run than Denzel Valentine who has a similar, but statistically better, offensive game without the proven commitment to defense. However, though good, Brogdon’s offensive stats were somewhat suppressed by Virginia’s defensive style of play that spread the ball around offensively mostly in the half court. Brogdon ran effectively when those opportunities arose and could create his own shot as shot clocks expired. He outplayed just about all the college guards who are projected to be picked ahead of him in most mock drafts.

If there is a run on high upside guys that might be targeted later in the first round, Brogdon might get picked that soon but, if the Knicks are lucky, he could likely be there in the 31-35 range.
Your thoughts?
KBC

is BRIGGS the expert on the draft? lol.

callmened wrote:

KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Briggs,
How about Malcolm Brogdon to the Knicks?
He can do everything that Evan Turner can plus play elite defense and shoot better too. As a 4th ball handler/wing he will actually be worth his extended rookie contract and is NBA ready for this role at a bargain price. IMHO he might be better in the long run than Denzel Valentine who has a similar, but statistically better, offensive game without the proven commitment to defense. However, though good, Brogdon’s offensive stats were somewhat suppressed by Virginia’s defensive style of play that spread the ball around offensively mostly in the half court. Brogdon ran effectively when those opportunities arose and could create his own shot as shot clocks expired. He outplayed just about all the college guards who are projected to be picked ahead of him in most mock drafts.

If there is a run on high upside guys that might be targeted later in the first round, Brogdon might get picked that soon but, if the Knicks are lucky, he could likely be there in the 31-35 range.
Your thoughts?
KBC

is BRIGGS the expert on the draft? lol.

Just having a conversation with someone whose opinion I value, ned.
No reason to get your panties in a bunch.
Peaceout.

callmened wrote:

KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Briggs,
How about Malcolm Brogdon to the Knicks?
He can do everything that Evan Turner can plus play elite defense and shoot better too. As a 4th ball handler/wing he will actually be worth his extended rookie contract and is NBA ready for this role at a bargain price. IMHO he might be better in the long run than Denzel Valentine who has a similar, but statistically better, offensive game without the proven commitment to defense. However, though good, Brogdon’s offensive stats were somewhat suppressed by Virginia’s defensive style of play that spread the ball around offensively mostly in the half court. Brogdon ran effectively when those opportunities arose and could create his own shot as shot clocks expired. He outplayed just about all the college guards who are projected to be picked ahead of him in most mock drafts.

If there is a run on high upside guys that might be targeted later in the first round, Brogdon might get picked that soon but, if the Knicks are lucky, he could likely be there in the 31-35 range.
Your thoughts?
KBC

is BRIGGS the expert on the draft? lol.

if you base it on volume posting then definitely yes!

if you base it on success rate, he makes it impossible to rate him since he picks and posts about a million players.

He also speaks in certainties and then changes his opinion based on who is hot and who is getting props at the end.

"Ok4 will be the next tim duncan - fact. Tell me someone in the NBA who can stop him?"

"Towns does not rise to the occasion and comes up short in big games" then before the draft "Towns will be the most unstopable player in the NBA, who can shoot like that?"

"Porzingis will be a bust! fact!" .... "Porzingis is great, so glad that I called it"

Kaminsky, Alex Len, Kelly Olynyk, Walters, Fredette, Thabeet, ...............................

He has hit on some too I'm sure but how can any of this be quantified? With every draft guru, you can go back and see how well they've done and what their track record is.

Not just the draft, Zach Levine will definitely be the next big NBA superstar, ROLO SUCKS, ROLO SUCKS, Monroe 100x better than Rolo, rolo sucks, Kanter is a super max, kanter kanter kanter, etc ...

So overall, since I have been here he has been almost always wrong but I at least agree with his premise this off season ... we need shooters and the NBA today is about 3 point shooting. He did hate almost every three that KP shot last year so I am still not sure where he fully stands with 3's. Should only non bigs be allowed to shoot them? Are bigs only allowed 1-2 attempts a game even if they can shoot from the tunnel?

Briggs does not really address any questions about his picks other than "Briggs, tell me about x ..." so its hard to qualify his position.

All that being said, I still enjoy his posts and his bold balsy predictions.

mreinman wrote:

callmened wrote:

KNICKSBIGCATS wrote:Briggs,
How about Malcolm Brogdon to the Knicks?
He can do everything that Evan Turner can plus play elite defense and shoot better too. As a 4th ball handler/wing he will actually be worth his extended rookie contract and is NBA ready for this role at a bargain price. IMHO he might be better in the long run than Denzel Valentine who has a similar, but statistically better, offensive game without the proven commitment to defense. However, though good, Brogdon’s offensive stats were somewhat suppressed by Virginia’s defensive style of play that spread the ball around offensively mostly in the half court. Brogdon ran effectively when those opportunities arose and could create his own shot as shot clocks expired. He outplayed just about all the college guards who are projected to be picked ahead of him in most mock drafts.

If there is a run on high upside guys that might be targeted later in the first round, Brogdon might get picked that soon but, if the Knicks are lucky, he could likely be there in the 31-35 range.
Your thoughts?
KBC

is BRIGGS the expert on the draft? lol.

if you base it on volume posting then definitely yes!

if you base it on success rate, he makes it impossible to rate him since he picks and posts about a million players.

He also speaks in certainties and then changes his opinion based on who is hot and who is getting props at the end.

"Ok4 will be the next tim duncan - fact. Tell me someone in the NBA who can stop him?"

"Towns does not rise to the occasion and comes up short in big games" then before the draft "Towns will be the most unstopable player in the NBA, who can shoot like that?"

"Porzingis will be a bust! fact!" .... "Porzingis is great, so glad that I called it"

Kaminsky, Alex Len, Kelly Olynyk, Walters, Fredette, Thabeet, ...............................

He has hit on some too I'm sure but how can any of this be quantified? With every draft guru, you can go back and see how well they've done and what their track record is.

Not just the draft, Zach Levine will definitely be the next big NBA superstar, ROLO SUCKS, ROLO SUCKS, Monroe 100x better than Rolo, rolo sucks, Kanter is a super max, kanter kanter kanter, etc ...

So overall, since I have been here he has been almost always wrong but I at least agree with his premise this off season ... we need shooters and the NBA today is about 3 point shooting. He did hate almost every three that KP shot last year so I am still not sure where he fully stands with 3's. Should only non bigs be allowed to shoot them? Are bigs only allowed 1-2 attempts a game even if they can shoot from the tunnel?

Briggs does not really address any questions about his picks other than "Briggs, tell me about x ..." so its hard to qualify his position.

All that being said, I still enjoy his posts and his bold balsy predictions.

Its pretty simple where I stand. I finish a mock before the draft. I dont change it after like Chad ford lol! If you notice Ive been pretty stead fast on some guys i Like--I do that every year. Last year my final picks were rd #1 KP rd#2 Norman Powell Joe Young and I also liked Josh Richardson---not bad? Its ok to decide on changing on a guy from 4-8 or from 20-30 or just becoming turned off--it happens. I liked Bazemore then I watched the playoffs where i got to see him 6 games in a row and think hes not good for us. Like Knicks said this is not a perfect science and involves a little divine intervention past pick 5. But how many people on this site even start threads or know players--not many. I dont like every player I mention--the players I like I will say it. Just look at my mock--simple as that.

BTW, great thread, great topic and congratulations on the 10,000 views, Briggs.