nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

nixluva wrote:

holfresh wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

TPercy wrote:Just got back from the Verizon Center, very good game to watch.

Carmelo ANthony played a very good game, made some good passes, kept the ball moving and had a quite good night.

I can't believe I am saying this but what a cracking game from Derrick WIlliams!!! Had a great shooting outing and kept us in the game.

Porzingis had some bad moments but he rebounded really well and had some great offensive plays. I agree with blkexec, His defensive awareness is very suspect but he is a great 1 on 1 defender which is great to see. He needs to get more comfortable with the ball.

I thought Jose Calderon was going to get decimated out there by Wall and Beal but he held his own out there tonight.

I know it is just preseason and it isn't something to look to into, but the signs were very good to see!

He thinks like a center on D, IMO. He's looking inside too much...this is a teachable issue. In SL he was much more comfortable on D at the 5.

Looked great against some smaller guys when he had to guard them...I was surprised.

We seem to be packing it in too much on D, IMO.

They are cheating on defense..They are backing off the outside shooter because they were being blown by in the last game...O'Quinn was doing a DLee and just standing under the basket for the rebound and his guy was always open for the jumper..When the second unit came in he didn't have to move because their big had no jumper..

Well at least KP wasn't out of shape tonight! He got his conditioning fixed all in one day off. He's amazing!

Knicks aren't perfect but they seem to be developing a bend but don't break defense. If they can continue to develop more chemistry on D they can be pretty good. They have a lot of defensive potential.

What game were you watching..

The one where our team won despite not being anywhere close to mid season form. The Wiz are trying to run a high pace, high scoring offense this year. The Knicks got a big lead and even after the Wiz went on a run they got their act together and pulled away again. Those breakdowns and mistakes should reduce as the Knicks get better.

In the end this wasn't some scrub team they were playing. The Wiz do have some talent and they've been together for a bit. You can't piss on what the Knicks are doing when it's a new team with a lot of young players too. At least try to have some perspective about where the team is at this stage. It's super early in the process of them coming together. They've got a lot more work today but you can see some signs of what they could be.

TPercy wrote:Did anyone notice Melo trying hard on defense this game? or was it just me?

Well that is what happens when your teammates have an actual jumpshot and can actually hit wide open jumpers. All of sudden you dont have to work so hard on offense and you actually have energy left to play defense. This is what we told the Melo haters time and time again but they didnt want to hear it. You guys really think Melo liked burning himself out by playing "iso Melo" ball? You don't think he prefers to play the way he did last night? He played like Olympic Melo for the most part with a bunch of catch and shoot shots. But when you have Shumpert to your right and Felton to your left bricking up shot after shot, the choice to just do it yourself becomes obvious. Why is that so damn hard for people to see?

fishmike wrote:good game... we have a lot of strong bodies. People around here that dump on guys like Sasha and Calderon strike me as folks who have never played organized sports at at least an amateur level and fail to see the value that on the field/court wisdom brings to the whole team. Most would rather just replace these guys with young bucks with more upside. These guys both know how to play, and make it easier for the coach. Yea.. they aren't going to defend like Gary Payton, but they wont lose their man either and they will make smart decisions.

Starting those two makes a lot of sense. I suspect when AA comes back Sasha simply sits and Grant/Galloway continue their bench roles. Calderon is probably a 24mpg "starter." Sasha is probably 20mpg with Grant and Galloway getting equal or + minutes. If one of those guys is off the older guys can step up. When the kids are hot ride em all the way home. Also Calderon/Sasha/Grant/Gallo offer a variety of solid 3-guard lineups depending on defense, shooting, ball handling, etc..

We look really good up front. KOQ is a bit slow footed but he's very long and you can see how and why he's been a good shot blocker. Elton Brand like... doesn't have to move much, just has quick hand and a LONG reach.

KP's hands stink... will see how that plays out but he looked a ton better. Totally outplayed Mr Kardashian

Melo looks like he's having fun. Looks in great shape and has the kind of guys he needs around him to be most effective. Hopefully we can manage his minutes but you have to love what you see so far from the golden mooby

CrushAlot wrote:I am pretty sure if I knew less about Derrick Williams I would be raving about him. He might even have an appreciation thread.

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

nixluva wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

Clean wrote:I like this Knicks team. We have some important pieces that were missing for many years. We have some players who can and will drive to the hoop. We have some good passers. We have good defenders and we have good shooters. I don't know how many games we will win but this is a team I can watch every game.

Yeah watchable, that would be a big improvement.

This team is more than just watchable IMO. I've been saying this team has the kind of talent that should allow them to be a playoff team if they give full effort. It's a deep team in terms of quality players. It's a hard working team that has a tough disposition and not the same soft team we saw last year. That's going to go a long way to being competitive on most nights. The team is much smarter too. If Melo stays healthy this is a playoff team IMO.

I made a passing comment about the team being unwatchable in the past, dont try to turn that into my playoff prediction for the Knicks because I have said that they have the talent to get there. You are making it hard for me to continue responding to your posts. This superfan stuff is wearing thin.

I didn't F'n attack you or say something nasty to you!!! I made a statement. You don't have to like me. I'm just stating what I felt and I'm not a mind reader!!! Perhaps you missed all the negative ISH that has been spewed around here all summer. So forgive me for seeing a somewhat negative statement and responding. Just being "watchable" isn't a ringing endorsement. Would you consider that a complement if someone said that about you? If you like the team great. I'm just stating what i've been saying all summer so you should be used to it by now. No harm. No foul.

dk7th wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

TPercy wrote:Did anyone notice Melo trying hard on defense this game? or was it just me?

Well that is what happens when your teammates have an actual jumpshot and can actually hit wide open jumpers. All of sudden you dont have to work so hard on offense and you actually have energy left to play defense. This is what we told the Melo haters time and time again but they didnt want to hear it. You guys really think Melo liked burning himself out by playing "iso Melo" ball? You don't think he prefers to play the way he did last night? He played like Olympic Melo for the most part with a bunch of catch and shoot shots. But when you have Shumpert to your right and Felton to your left bricking up shot after shot, the choice to just do it yourself becomes obvious. Why is that so damn hard for people to see?

so... what you're saying is: system ball works?

No. I'm saying system ball works if you have the players to make it work.

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

dk7th wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

TPercy wrote:Did anyone notice Melo trying hard on defense this game? or was it just me?

Well that is what happens when your teammates have an actual jumpshot and can actually hit wide open jumpers. All of sudden you dont have to work so hard on offense and you actually have energy left to play defense. This is what we told the Melo haters time and time again but they didnt want to hear it. You guys really think Melo liked burning himself out by playing "iso Melo" ball? You don't think he prefers to play the way he did last night? He played like Olympic Melo for the most part with a bunch of catch and shoot shots. But when you have Shumpert to your right and Felton to your left bricking up shot after shot, the choice to just do it yourself becomes obvious. Why is that so damn hard for people to see?

so... what you're saying is: system ball works?

No. I'm saying system ball works if you have the players to make it work.

so you are optimistic about the team for this season? how many wins? a range will do.

dk7th wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

dk7th wrote:

KEEPCAMBYNY wrote:

TPercy wrote:Did anyone notice Melo trying hard on defense this game? or was it just me?

Well that is what happens when your teammates have an actual jumpshot and can actually hit wide open jumpers. All of sudden you dont have to work so hard on offense and you actually have energy left to play defense. This is what we told the Melo haters time and time again but they didnt want to hear it. You guys really think Melo liked burning himself out by playing "iso Melo" ball? You don't think he prefers to play the way he did last night? He played like Olympic Melo for the most part with a bunch of catch and shoot shots. But when you have Shumpert to your right and Felton to your left bricking up shot after shot, the choice to just do it yourself becomes obvious. Why is that so damn hard for people to see?

so... what you're saying is: system ball works?

No. I'm saying system ball works if you have the players to make it work.

so you are optimistic about the team for this season? how many wins? a range will do.

I can't say yet, its too early, I need to see more of the defense first, plus need to see Afflalo out there too.