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OT: Are you Team Cap or Team Iron Man? Who you got and why?


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ChuckBuck
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Brief background to why they're fighting:

Captain America: Civil War Plot

Captain America: Civil War plot picks up where Avengers: Age of Ultron left off, as Steve Rogers leads the new team of Avengers in their continued efforts to safeguard humanity. After another international incident involving the Avengers results in collateral damage, political pressure mounts to install a system of accountability and a governing body to determine when to enlist the services of the team. The new status quo fractures the Avengers while they try to protect the world from a new and nefarious villain.

Basically after another Avengers outing, a whole bunch of innocent people die, tons of backlash, governments put pressure on SHIELD to pass a "Superhero Act" forcing all heroes to register their real identities and information to the public and forces them to become employees of the government, not an independent apolitical super hero group as they once were. Tony Starks is on board, but Cap is like "PHUCK THIS", we need our freedom and privacy yo. They form opposing teams and voila, battle royale.

On one team you have Captain America, Falcon and his smart drone Red Wing, Winter Soldier/Bucky, Hawkeye, Antman, Sharon Carter, and Scarlet Witch(not pictured).

On the other side Iron Man, War Machine, Vision, Black Panther, Black Widow, and Spiderman(not pictured).

We won't count Hulk or Red Hulk/General Thunderbolt Ross, because they haven't been confirmed yet or don't have allegiances yet. Thor's off to Asgard to fend off the Norse end of days, Ragnarok, so he's not in this conflict.

So who you side with? Cap or Tony Starks? Pro-Registration or Anti?

Captain America and co. They got that wild card Scarlet Witch, she can manipulate reality!
Iron Man's team. Vision picked up Thor's hammer for chrissakes! Too much firepower
Whatever team Spiderman is on. Peter Parker is a New Yorker!
Have to wait and see who Hulk sides with. HULK SMASH!
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ChuckBuck
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8/31/2015  8:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/31/2015  8:54 AM
LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

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8/31/2015  10:23 AM
ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

LOL of insinuating that continuing to play sports as an adult to literary consumption of Comics vs. books. Comics were great because they used Pictures to tell a story.

"Stupid logic"?

Is Comic books considered Juvenile? Yes, to many adults they are! To literary snobs who have developed a great ability to write, or at least digest great writing they do look at comic books as simple cartoon.
The Marvel catalog in the digital age makes for fun action movies. They tell nice fantasy stories of good verses evil! Comics were great before the age of television and bought great visual to the superhero story.
It has its place.

Melo is a hero to some. Some of the avengers really needed each other to defeat a common enemy. Like some of the heroes in the comics.. Why has the Silver surfer not made top billing like Superman, Batman, Thor, etc?

You made a poll.

Anger sells, don't buy!
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8/31/2015  11:01 AM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

LOL of insinuating that continuing to play sports as an adult to literary consumption of Comics vs. books. Comics were great because they used Pictures to tell a story.

"Stupid logic"?

Is Comic books considered Juvenile? Yes, to many adults they are! To literary snobs who have developed a great ability to write, or at least digest great writing they do look at comic books as simple cartoon.
The Marvel catalog in the digital age makes for fun action movies. They tell nice fantasy stories of good verses evil! Comics were great before the age of television and bought great visual to the superhero story.
It has its place.

Melo is a hero to some. Some of the avengers really needed each other to defeat a common enemy. Like some of the heroes in the comics.. Why has the Silver surfer not made top billing like Superman, Batman, Thor, etc?

You made a poll.

LOL, tell that to the movie studios making no less than 26 "Comic Book based" movies in the next 5 years.

For better or worse, this is the cinematic world we live in. Some of the best reviewed and great visual movies stem from comics. A History of Violence, 300, Sin City, Watchmen, Road to Perdition, V for Vendetta, The Dark Knight (Heath Ledger won an Oscar for Joker!!), Snowpiercer.

The juvenile comment is just plain ignorant and is common for people to "lump" for people out of your element like yourself, Nalod.

I dare any "juvenile" adult to put their 5 year old kid in front of the big screen to watch Sin City, Road to Perdition, A History of Violence, or Watchmen with big blue balls showing half the time.

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8/31/2015  12:24 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

Playing basketball as a toddler? Really Chuck? Shitting in the potty does not constitute playing ball, IMHO.
What else did you do as a toddler? Particle Physics? Triathalons?

Grow up; there, no insinuation at all. Comic books are named as such for a reason, Chuckie. Basketball is a professional sport; if you can't see the difference between that and what you managed as a toddler, then there truly is no hope for further conversation.

Net/net, basketball is a sport, not akin at all to Playskool toys, or mastering the intricacies of Candyland and Chutes and Ladders.

When you were a child, you reasoned as a child, you thought and acted like a child. When you are older, things change.
For some, apparently, they don't.

Equating intellectual maturity with whatever CGI crap Hollywood pumps out to make billions of dollars off the idiot masses (some of who are seriously considering voting for a bankrupt specialist, reality TV show personality for POTUS) is a blisteringly weak argument.


By the way, The Tick would kick everyone's azz in this lame poll.

You guys spend a lot of time commenting on the internet?
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8/31/2015  1:40 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/31/2015  1:43 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

LOL of insinuating that continuing to play sports as an adult to literary consumption of Comics vs. books. Comics were great because they used Pictures to tell a story.

"Stupid logic"?

Is Comic books considered Juvenile? Yes, to many adults they are! To literary snobs who have developed a great ability to write, or at least digest great writing they do look at comic books as simple cartoon.
The Marvel catalog in the digital age makes for fun action movies. They tell nice fantasy stories of good verses evil! Comics were great before the age of television and bought great visual to the superhero story.
It has its place.

Melo is a hero to some. Some of the avengers really needed each other to defeat a common enemy. Like some of the heroes in the comics.. Why has the Silver surfer not made top billing like Superman, Batman, Thor, etc?

You made a poll.

LOL, tell that to the movie studios making no less than 26 "Comic Book based" movies in the next 5 years.

For better or worse, this is the cinematic world we live in. Some of the best reviewed and great visual movies stem from comics. A History of Violence, 300, Sin City, Watchmen, Road to Perdition, V for Vendetta, The Dark Knight (Heath Ledger won an Oscar for Joker!!), Snowpiercer.

The juvenile comment is just plain ignorant and is common for people to "lump" for people out of your element like yourself, Nalod.

I dare any "juvenile" adult to put their 5 year old kid in front of the big screen to watch Sin City, Road to Perdition, A History of Violence, or Watchmen with big blue balls showing half the time.


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-comic-book-industry-is-on-fire-2014-8#ixzz3kPmjyoyr

Last year's 85 million print unit sales for the top 300 comic books was the highest number since 2007, and that does not count increasingly significant graphic novel and digital sales nor a growing number of sales beyond the top 300. Even though total unit sales remain lower than during peaks in the 1950s or early 1990s, according to Miller, the comic book business is booming.

Unit sales are down but obviously sales would increase cuz what sold for 5 cents now sells for $4 and up!

Comics, or graphic novels are good teaching tools for reluctant readers and help beginners with comprehension. Movie's based comic characters do very well historically. We have seen coutless movies made from characters including "Richie Rich", "Duck tales" "Dennis the menace" and others.

Heath Ledger won for supporting actor does not make the genre legit. Box office sales do. Melo won a scoring title.

Anger sells, don't buy!
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8/31/2015  3:00 PM
jrodmc wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

Playing basketball as a toddler? Really Chuck? Shitting in the potty does not constitute playing ball, IMHO.
What else did you do as a toddler? Particle Physics? Triathalons?

Grow up; there, no insinuation at all. Comic books are named as such for a reason, Chuckie. Basketball is a professional sport; if you can't see the difference between that and what you managed as a toddler, then there truly is no hope for further conversation.

Net/net, basketball is a sport, not akin at all to Playskool toys, or mastering the intricacies of Candyland and Chutes and Ladders.

When you were a child, you reasoned as a child, you thought and acted like a child. When you are older, things change.
For some, apparently, they don't.

Equating intellectual maturity with whatever CGI crap Hollywood pumps out to make billions of dollars off the idiot masses (some of who are seriously considering voting for a bankrupt specialist, reality TV show personality for POTUS) is a blisteringly weak argument.


By the way, The Tick would kick everyone's azz in this lame poll.

The Tick? Can't even pick a decent character, jrodmc. Ehh, that's where I cut ties with you!

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8/31/2015  3:48 PM
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

LOL of insinuating that continuing to play sports as an adult to literary consumption of Comics vs. books. Comics were great because they used Pictures to tell a story.

"Stupid logic"?

Is Comic books considered Juvenile? Yes, to many adults they are! To literary snobs who have developed a great ability to write, or at least digest great writing they do look at comic books as simple cartoon.
The Marvel catalog in the digital age makes for fun action movies. They tell nice fantasy stories of good verses evil! Comics were great before the age of television and bought great visual to the superhero story.
It has its place.

Melo is a hero to some. Some of the avengers really needed each other to defeat a common enemy. Like some of the heroes in the comics.. Why has the Silver surfer not made top billing like Superman, Batman, Thor, etc?

You made a poll.

LOL, tell that to the movie studios making no less than 26 "Comic Book based" movies in the next 5 years.

For better or worse, this is the cinematic world we live in. Some of the best reviewed and great visual movies stem from comics. A History of Violence, 300, Sin City, Watchmen, Road to Perdition, V for Vendetta, The Dark Knight (Heath Ledger won an Oscar for Joker!!), Snowpiercer.

The juvenile comment is just plain ignorant and is common for people to "lump" for people out of your element like yourself, Nalod.

I dare any "juvenile" adult to put their 5 year old kid in front of the big screen to watch Sin City, Road to Perdition, A History of Violence, or Watchmen with big blue balls showing half the time.


http://www.businessinsider.com/the-comic-book-industry-is-on-fire-2014-8#ixzz3kPmjyoyr

Last year's 85 million print unit sales for the top 300 comic books was the highest number since 2007, and that does not count increasingly significant graphic novel and digital sales nor a growing number of sales beyond the top 300. Even though total unit sales remain lower than during peaks in the 1950s or early 1990s, according to Miller, the comic book business is booming.

Unit sales are down but obviously sales would increase cuz what sold for 5 cents now sells for $4 and up!

Comics, or graphic novels are good teaching tools for reluctant readers and help beginners with comprehension. Movie's based comic characters do very well historically. We have seen coutless movies made from characters including "Richie Rich", "Duck tales" "Dennis the menace" and others.

Heath Ledger won for supporting actor does not make the genre legit. Box office sales do. Melo won a scoring title.

Here's Legit:

Rank	Title	Studio	Worldwide	Domestic / %		Overseas / %		Year^
1 Avatar Fox $2,788.00 $760.50 27.30% $2,027.50 72.70% 2009^
2 Titanic Par. $2,186.80 $658.70 30.10% $1,528.10 69.90% 1997^
3 Jurassic World Uni. $1,636.70 $643.10 39.30% $993.60 60.70% 2015
4 Marvel's The Avengers BV $1,519.60 $623.40 41.00% $896.20 59.00% 2012
5 Furious 7 Uni. $1,511.70 $351.00 23.20% $1,160.70 76.80% 2015
6 Avengers: Age of Ultron BV $1,401.30 $457.50 32.60% $943.80 67.40% 2015
7 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 WB $1,341.50 $381.00 28.40% $960.50 71.60% 2011
8 Frozen BV $1,274.20 $400.70 31.40% $873.50 68.60% 2013
9 Iron Man 3 BV $1,215.40 $409.00 33.70% $806.40 66.30% 2013
10 Transformers: Dark of the Moon P/DW $1,123.80 $352.40 31.40% $771.40 68.60% 2011
11 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King NL $1,119.90 $377.80 33.70% $742.10 66.30% 2003^
12 Skyfall Sony $1,108.60 $304.40 27.50% $804.20 72.50% 2012
13 Transformers: Age of Extinction Par. $1,104.00 $245.40 22.20% $858.60 77.80% 2014
14 The Dark Knight Rises WB $1,084.90 $448.10 41.30% $636.80 58.70% 2012
15 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest BV $1,066.20 $423.30 39.70% $642.90 60.30% 2006
16 Toy Story 3 BV $1,063.20 $415.00 39.00% $648.20 61.00% 2010
17 Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides BV $1,045.70 $241.10 23.10% $804.60 76.90% 2011
18 Jurassic Park Uni. $1,029.20 $402.50 39.10% $626.70 60.90% 1993^
19 Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace Fox $1,027.00 $474.50 46.20% $552.50 53.80% 1999^
20 Alice in Wonderland (2010) BV $1,025.50 $334.20 32.60% $691.30 67.40% 2010
21 The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey WB $1,021.10 $303.00 29.70% $718.10 70.30% 2012
22 Minions Uni. $1,018.90 $324.80 31.90% $694.10 68.10% 2015
23 The Dark Knight WB $1,004.60 $534.90 53.20% $469.70 46.80% 2008^
24 The Lion King BV $987.50 $422.80 42.80% $564.70 57.20% 1994^
25 Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone WB $974.80 $317.60 32.60% $657.20 67.40% 2001
26 Despicable Me 2 Uni. $970.80 $368.10 37.90% $602.70 62.10% 2013
27 Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End BV $963.40 $309.40 32.10% $654.00 67.90% 2007
28 Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1 WB $960.30 $296.00 30.80% $664.30 69.20% 2010
29 The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug WB $958.40 $258.40 27.00% $700.00 73.00% 2013
30 The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies WB $956.00 $255.10 26.70% $700.90 73.30% 2014
31 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix WB $939.90 $292.00 31.10% $647.90 68.90% 2007
32 Finding Nemo BV $936.70 $380.80 40.70% $555.90 59.30% 2003^
33 Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince WB $934.40 $302.00 32.30% $632.50 67.70% 2009
34 The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers NL $926.00 $342.60 37.00% $583.50 63.00% 2002^
35 Shrek 2 DW $919.80 $441.20 48.00% $478.60 52.00% 2004
36 Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire WB $896.90 $290.00 32.30% $606.90 67.70% 2005
37 Spider-Man 3 Sony $890.90 $336.50 37.80% $554.30 62.20% 2007
38 Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs Fox $886.70 $196.60 22.20% $690.10 77.80% 2009
39 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets WB $879.00 $262.00 29.80% $617.00 70.20% 2002
40 Ice Age: Continental Drift Fox $877.20 $161.30 18.40% $715.90 81.60% 2012
41 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring NL $871.50 $315.50 36.20% $556.00 63.80% 2001^
42 The Hunger Games: Catching Fire LGF $864.90 $424.70 49.10% $440.20 50.90% 2013
43 Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith Fox $848.80 $380.30 44.80% $468.50 55.20% 2005^
44 Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen P/DW $836.30 $402.10 48.10% $434.20 51.90% 2009
45 The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2 LG/S $829.70 $292.30 35.20% $537.40 64.80% 2012
46 Inception WB $825.50 $292.60 35.40% $533.00 64.60% 2010
47 Spider-Man Sony $821.70 $403.70 49.10% $418.00 50.90% 2002
48 Independence Day Fox $817.40 $306.20 37.50% $511.20 62.50% 1996^
49 Shrek the Third P/DW $799.00 $322.70 40.40% $476.20 59.60% 2007
50 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban WB $796.70 $249.50 31.30% $547.10 68.70% 2004
51 E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial Uni. $792.90 $435.10 54.90% $357.80 45.10% 1982^
52 Fast & Furious 6 Uni. $788.70 $238.70 30.30% $550.00 69.70% 2013
53 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Par. $786.60 $317.10 40.30% $469.50 59.70% 2008
54 Spider-Man 2 Sony $783.80 $373.60 47.70% $410.20 52.30% 2004
55 Star Wars Fox $775.40 $461.00 59.50% $314.40 40.50% 1977^
56 Guardians of the Galaxy BV $774.20 $333.20 43.00% $441.00 57.00% 2014
57 2012 Sony $769.70 $166.10 21.60% $603.60 78.40% 2009
58 Maleficent BV $758.40 $241.40 31.80% $517.00 68.20% 2014
59 The Da Vinci Code Sony $758.20 $217.50 28.70% $540.70 71.30% 2006
60 The Amazing Spider-Man Sony $757.90 $262.00 34.60% $495.90 65.40% 2012
61 Shrek Forever After P/DW $752.60 $238.70 31.70% $513.90 68.30% 2010
62 The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1 LGF $752.10 $337.10 44.80% $415.00 55.20% 2014
63 X-Men: Days of Future Past Fox $748.10 $233.90 31.30% $514.20 68.70% 2014
64 Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted P/DW $746.90 $216.40 29.00% $530.50 71.00% 2012
65 The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe BV $745.00 $291.70 39.20% $453.30 60.80% 2005
66 Monsters University BV $743.60 $268.50 36.10% $475.10 63.90% 2013
67 The Matrix Reloaded WB $742.10 $281.60 37.90% $460.60 62.10% 2003
68 Up BV $731.30 $293.00 40.10% $438.30 59.90% 2009
69 Gravity WB $723.20 $274.10 37.90% $449.10 62.10% 2013
70 Captain America: The Winter Soldier BV $714.80 $259.80 36.30% $455.00 63.70% 2014
71 The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1 Sum. $712.20 $281.30 39.50% $430.90 60.50% 2011
72 The Twilight Saga: New Moon Sum. $709.80 $296.60 41.80% $413.20 58.20% 2009
73 Transformers P/DW $709.70 $319.20 45.00% $390.50 55.00% 2007
74 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Sony $709.00 $202.90 28.60% $506.10 71.40% 2014
75 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes Fox $708.80 $208.50 29.40% $500.30 70.60% 2014
76 Inside Out BV $702.50 $344.50 49.00% $358.00 51.00% 2015
77 The Twilight Saga: Eclipse Sum. $698.50 $300.50 43.00% $398.00 57.00% 2010
78 Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol Par. $694.70 $209.40 30.10% $485.30 69.90% 2011
79 The Hunger Games LGF $691.20 $408.00 59.00% $283.20 41.00% 2012
80 Forrest Gump Par. $677.90 $330.30 48.70% $347.70 51.30% 1994^
81 Interstellar Par. $675.00 $188.00 27.90% $487.00 72.10% 2014
82 The Sixth Sense BV $672.80 $293.50 43.60% $379.30 56.40% 1999
83 Man of Steel WB $668.00 $291.00 43.60% $377.00 56.40% 2013
84 Kung Fu Panda 2 P/DW $665.70 $165.20 24.80% $500.40 75.20% 2011
85 Ice Age: The Meltdown Fox $660.90 $195.30 29.60% $465.60 70.40% 2006
86 Big Hero 6 BV $657.80 $222.50 33.80% $435.30 66.20% 2014
87 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl BV $654.30 $305.40 46.70% $348.90 53.30% 2003
88 Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones Fox $649.40 $310.70 47.80% $338.70 52.20% 2002^
89 Thor: The Dark World BV $644.80 $206.40 32.00% $438.40 68.00% 2013
90 Kung Fu Panda P/DW $631.70 $215.40 34.10% $416.30 65.90% 2008
91 The Incredibles BV $631.40 $261.40 41.40% $370.00 58.60% 2004
92 Fast Five Uni. $626.10 $209.80 33.50% $416.30 66.50% 2011
93 Hancock Sony $624.40 $227.90 36.50% $396.40 63.50% 2008
94 MIB 3 Sony $624.00 $179.00 28.70% $445.00 71.30% 2012
95 Iron Man 2 Par. $623.90 $312.40 50.10% $311.50 49.90% 2010
96 Ratatouille BV $623.70 $206.40 33.10% $417.30 66.90% 2007
97 How to Train Your Dragon 2 Fox $618.90 $177.00 28.60% $441.90 71.40% 2014
98 The Lost World: Jurassic Park Uni. $618.60 $229.10 37.00% $389.60 63.00% 1997
99 The Passion of the Christ NM $611.90 $370.80 60.60% $241.10 39.40% 2004^
100 Mamma Mia! Uni. $609.80 $144.10 23.60% $465.70 76.40% 2008

Avengers and Avenger Age of Ultron at $3B total box office would like to have a word with you.

The Dark Knight scored in at 94% certified fresh from Rotten Tomatoes, while Iron Man 94% and Avengers at 92% also received critical acclaim from all movie critics.

CinemaScore® is the industry leader in measuring movie appeal among theatre audiences. For over 35 years, CinemaScore has been polling moviegoers at major movie releases on opening night to collect demographic information and calculate a distinctive CinemaScore grade.

Some CinemaScores for your small mind:

Avengers A+
Avengers Age of Ultron A
The Dark Knight A
The Dark Knight Rises A
Captain America: The Winter Solder A
300 A-

Just for comparison, we'll see the CINEMASCORE for "great" movies.

Pulp Fiction B+
Gone Girl B

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Comic book based movies aren't just for kiddies anymore. People are flocking to see these movies at an alarming rate, and not just for a good popcorn flick. They tell good stories also.

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8/31/2015  7:15 PM
The ongoing, dumbing-down of America; Exhibit A.

Money = Brains


Next up: Chuckie will explain, in true spreadsheet logic, why DirectTV is much more intellectually stimulating than reading a book.
The Simpsons
South Park
...

You guys spend a lot of time commenting on the internet?
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9/1/2015  9:41 AM
jrodmc wrote:The ongoing, dumbing-down of America; Exhibit A.

Money = Brains


Next up: Chuckie will explain, in true spreadsheet logic, why DirectTV is much more intellectually stimulating than reading a book.
The Simpsons
South Park
...

Stimulate this!

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9/1/2015  10:58 AM    LAST EDITED: 9/1/2015  11:03 AM
Chuck,

Action movies have always done well at the movie box office.
WE talking about a medium that is written at a 3rd -5th grade reading level with pictures.
Children grow up reading comic books and to see them "come alive" on the big screen is a thrill.
WE had Superman TV show in the 1960's. It always did well. Each generation gets better technology so the reboots are profitable.

Comic book sales are doing well, but not like they were in the 1950s.

Twerk .Gif, I guess if you don't have the words you use what you can.

Chuck, Halloween is soon. You pumped up or what?

Anger sells, don't buy!
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Nalod wrote:Chuck,

Action movies have always done well at the movie box office.
WE talking about a medium that is written at a 3rd -5th grade reading level with pictures.
Children grow up reading comic books and to see them "come alive" on the big screen is a thrill.
WE had Superman TV show in the 1960's. It always did well. Each generation gets better technology so the reboots are profitable.

Comic book sales are doing well, but not like they were in the 1950s.

Twerk .Gif, I guess if you don't have the words you use what you can.

Chuck, Halloween is soon. You pumped up or what?

No need to retort to jrod. He don't know shyt.

A History of Violence, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, and Road to Perdition are all movies not at a 3rd to 5th grade reading level. All derived from comics.

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9/3/2015  2:18 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
Nalod wrote:Chuck,

Action movies have always done well at the movie box office.
WE talking about a medium that is written at a 3rd -5th grade reading level with pictures.
Children grow up reading comic books and to see them "come alive" on the big screen is a thrill.
WE had Superman TV show in the 1960's. It always did well. Each generation gets better technology so the reboots are profitable.

Comic book sales are doing well, but not like they were in the 1950s.

Twerk .Gif, I guess if you don't have the words you use what you can.

Chuck, Halloween is soon. You pumped up or what?

No need to retort to jrod. He don't know shyt.

A History of Violence, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, and Road to Perdition are all movies not at a 3rd to 5th grade reading level. All derived from comics.

Comic books are written for elementary school reading level. Box office success does not make it great story.
Nobody said something has to be good to make lots of money.

I suppose you like to argue. Bottom line is you made a poll about avengers and who would pair up with who, not to whether the comics were a valid medium.

You got called out for it being a juvenile like post and you really did validate the point.

What about a poll of which pajamas are better?

This one?

"Vs"

Bedding?

window treatments?

Oral hygene?



Anger sells, don't buy!
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9/3/2015  3:38 PM
Here endeth the lesson.
You guys spend a lot of time commenting on the internet?
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jrodmc wrote:Here endeth the lesson.

Nah, not really. Comic books have changed throughout the decades. Its a little more than Archie dates Veronica. They dealt with issues such as rape, genocide, torture, etc. Not exactly themes for kids. The fact that pajamas and Halloween costumes are made from superhero merchandise, I do recall when I was little a Robocop and Rambo cartoon as well as merchandising. ARE those movies fit for kids? I refer to it as boys with their toys. I like comic books and I collected since college and do so with my son. Its a pastime with him. I do read novels but I do enjoy the stories from the comics. Its no different than an adult liking WWE, Star Wars/ Star Trek. Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, etc. It is entertainment. So I am guessing that none of you watched any of the comic book movies mentioned? If you don't like it, fine, but why come here to bust balls?

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As far as the question, Chuck, it has to be Team Cap though I am sad Panther is on Iron Man's team. Christopher Priest's Panther run is the best I read in comics( and a storyline that would put to rest that comics can't be mature). I can't wait to see him in action.
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I'm not sure about their motivations in the movies. They have evolved and changed over years in the comics.

In the movies Stark's independence is something to appreciate, as he has to answer to no one. That said, he has to answer to no one, feels no real need to do so, has a tremendous ego, and has proven to make questionable decisions.

Cap'n seems to have a purer motivation, freedom. He is initially a soldier, so his motivation may be unduly influenced by military and political leaders of questionable morality. The type that are looking after their own best interests, settling out-dated conflicts, etc., but it seems in his issues with Stark in the last film, he's looking more at the big picture of the freedom concept. One gets the feeling he wouldn't blindly follow orders that he "knew" were wrong.

With that, I'd go with Cap.

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jazz74 wrote:
jrodmc wrote:Here endeth the lesson.

Nah, not really. Comic books have changed throughout the decades. Its a little more than Archie dates Veronica. They dealt with issues such as rape, genocide, torture, etc. Not exactly themes for kids. The fact that pajamas and Halloween costumes are made from superhero merchandise, I do recall when I was little a Robocop and Rambo cartoon as well as merchandising. ARE those movies fit for kids? I refer to it as boys with their toys. I like comic books and I collected since college and do so with my son. Its a pastime with him. I do read novels but I do enjoy the stories from the comics. Its no different than an adult liking WWE, Star Wars/ Star Trek. Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, etc. It is entertainment. So I am guessing that none of you watched any of the comic book movies mentioned? If you don't like it, fine, but why come here to bust balls?

Thanks jazz74! Obviously jrodmc and Nalod have no phucking clue what the phuck they're talking about.

Comics and comicbook based movies have come a long ways.

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Neither jrodmc nor Nalod has read a page of Robert Kirkman's "The Walking Dead".

Forget the TV show, the comics are 10x more brutal!

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9/4/2015  10:23 AM
grillco wrote:I'm not sure about their motivations in the movies. They have evolved and changed over years in the comics.

In the movies Stark's independence is something to appreciate, as he has to answer to no one. That said, he has to answer to no one, feels no real need to do so, has a tremendous ego, and has proven to make questionable decisions.

Cap'n seems to have a purer motivation, freedom. He is initially a soldier, so his motivation may be unduly influenced by military and political leaders of questionable morality. The type that are looking after their own best interests, settling out-dated conflicts, etc., but it seems in his issues with Stark in the last film, he's looking more at the big picture of the freedom concept. One gets the feeling he wouldn't blindly follow orders that he "knew" were wrong.

With that, I'd go with Cap.

Well said grillco! A lot of the same reasons I'm Team Cap as well.

OT: Are you Team Cap or Team Iron Man? Who you got and why?

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