Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

LOL of insinuating that continuing to play sports as an adult to literary consumption of Comics vs. books. Comics were great because they used Pictures to tell a story.

"Stupid logic"?

Is Comic books considered Juvenile? Yes, to many adults they are! To literary snobs who have developed a great ability to write, or at least digest great writing they do look at comic books as simple cartoon.
The Marvel catalog in the digital age makes for fun action movies. They tell nice fantasy stories of good verses evil! Comics were great before the age of television and bought great visual to the superhero story.
It has its place.

Melo is a hero to some. Some of the avengers really needed each other to defeat a common enemy. Like some of the heroes in the comics.. Why has the Silver surfer not made top billing like Superman, Batman, Thor, etc?

You made a poll.

LOL, tell that to the movie studios making no less than 26 "Comic Book based" movies in the next 5 years.

For better or worse, this is the cinematic world we live in. Some of the best reviewed and great visual movies stem from comics. A History of Violence, 300, Sin City, Watchmen, Road to Perdition, V for Vendetta, The Dark Knight (Heath Ledger won an Oscar for Joker!!), Snowpiercer.

The juvenile comment is just plain ignorant and is common for people to "lump" for people out of your element like yourself, Nalod.

I dare any "juvenile" adult to put their 5 year old kid in front of the big screen to watch Sin City, Road to Perdition, A History of Violence, or Watchmen with big blue balls showing half the time.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

LOL of insinuating that continuing to play sports as an adult to literary consumption of Comics vs. books. Comics were great because they used Pictures to tell a story.

"Stupid logic"?

Is Comic books considered Juvenile? Yes, to many adults they are! To literary snobs who have developed a great ability to write, or at least digest great writing they do look at comic books as simple cartoon.
The Marvel catalog in the digital age makes for fun action movies. They tell nice fantasy stories of good verses evil! Comics were great before the age of television and bought great visual to the superhero story.
It has its place.

Melo is a hero to some. Some of the avengers really needed each other to defeat a common enemy. Like some of the heroes in the comics.. Why has the Silver surfer not made top billing like Superman, Batman, Thor, etc?

You made a poll.

LOL, tell that to the movie studios making no less than 26 "Comic Book based" movies in the next 5 years.

For better or worse, this is the cinematic world we live in. Some of the best reviewed and great visual movies stem from comics. A History of Violence, 300, Sin City, Watchmen, Road to Perdition, V for Vendetta, The Dark Knight (Heath Ledger won an Oscar for Joker!!), Snowpiercer.

The juvenile comment is just plain ignorant and is common for people to "lump" for people out of your element like yourself, Nalod.

I dare any "juvenile" adult to put their 5 year old kid in front of the big screen to watch Sin City, Road to Perdition, A History of Violence, or Watchmen with big blue balls showing half the time.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-comic-book-industry-is-on-fire-2014-8#ixzz3kPmjyoyr

Last year's 85 million print unit sales for the top 300 comic books was the highest number since 2007, and that does not count increasingly significant graphic novel and digital sales nor a growing number of sales beyond the top 300. Even though total unit sales remain lower than during peaks in the 1950s or early 1990s, according to Miller, the comic book business is booming.

Comics, or graphic novels are good teaching tools for reluctant readers and help beginners with comprehension. Movie's based comic characters do very well historically. We have seen coutless movies made from characters including "Richie Rich", "Duck tales" "Dennis the menace" and others.

Heath Ledger won for supporting actor does not make the genre legit. Box office sales do. Melo won a scoring title.

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:LOL at insinuating reading comics or enjoying Comic book movies are considered juvenile!

I guess all the people that played basketball as a toddler and are now in their thirties, forties, or up should just hang them up! And the end of the day it's just a game.

Stupid logic. Comics are just another form of storytelling.

LOL of insinuating that continuing to play sports as an adult to literary consumption of Comics vs. books. Comics were great because they used Pictures to tell a story.

"Stupid logic"?

Is Comic books considered Juvenile? Yes, to many adults they are! To literary snobs who have developed a great ability to write, or at least digest great writing they do look at comic books as simple cartoon.
The Marvel catalog in the digital age makes for fun action movies. They tell nice fantasy stories of good verses evil! Comics were great before the age of television and bought great visual to the superhero story.
It has its place.

Melo is a hero to some. Some of the avengers really needed each other to defeat a common enemy. Like some of the heroes in the comics.. Why has the Silver surfer not made top billing like Superman, Batman, Thor, etc?

You made a poll.

LOL, tell that to the movie studios making no less than 26 "Comic Book based" movies in the next 5 years.

For better or worse, this is the cinematic world we live in. Some of the best reviewed and great visual movies stem from comics. A History of Violence, 300, Sin City, Watchmen, Road to Perdition, V for Vendetta, The Dark Knight (Heath Ledger won an Oscar for Joker!!), Snowpiercer.

The juvenile comment is just plain ignorant and is common for people to "lump" for people out of your element like yourself, Nalod.

I dare any "juvenile" adult to put their 5 year old kid in front of the big screen to watch Sin City, Road to Perdition, A History of Violence, or Watchmen with big blue balls showing half the time.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-comic-book-industry-is-on-fire-2014-8#ixzz3kPmjyoyr

Last year's 85 million print unit sales for the top 300 comic books was the highest number since 2007, and that does not count increasingly significant graphic novel and digital sales nor a growing number of sales beyond the top 300. Even though total unit sales remain lower than during peaks in the 1950s or early 1990s, according to Miller, the comic book business is booming.

Unit sales are down but obviously sales would increase cuz what sold for 5 cents now sells for $4 and up!

Comics, or graphic novels are good teaching tools for reluctant readers and help beginners with comprehension. Movie's based comic characters do very well historically. We have seen coutless movies made from characters including "Richie Rich", "Duck tales" "Dennis the menace" and others.

Heath Ledger won for supporting actor does not make the genre legit. Box office sales do. Melo won a scoring title.

Here's Legit:

Rank	Title	Studio	Worldwide	Domestic / %		Overseas / %		Year^
1	Avatar	Fox	$2,788.00 	$760.50 	27.30%	$2,027.50 	72.70%	2009^
2	Titanic	Par.	$2,186.80 	$658.70 	30.10%	$1,528.10 	69.90%	1997^
3	Jurassic World	Uni.	$1,636.70 	$643.10 	39.30%	$993.60 	60.70%	2015
4	Marvel's The Avengers	BV	$1,519.60 	$623.40 	41.00%	$896.20 	59.00%	2012
5	Furious 7	Uni.	$1,511.70 	$351.00 	23.20%	$1,160.70 	76.80%	2015
6	Avengers: Age of Ultron	BV	$1,401.30 	$457.50 	32.60%	$943.80 	67.40%	2015
7	Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2	WB	$1,341.50 	$381.00 	28.40%	$960.50 	71.60%	2011
8	Frozen	BV	$1,274.20 	$400.70 	31.40%	$873.50 	68.60%	2013
9	Iron Man 3	BV	$1,215.40 	$409.00 	33.70%	$806.40 	66.30%	2013
10	Transformers: Dark of the Moon	P/DW	$1,123.80 	$352.40 	31.40%	$771.40 	68.60%	2011
11	The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King	NL	$1,119.90 	$377.80 	33.70%	$742.10 	66.30%	2003^
12	Skyfall	Sony	$1,108.60 	$304.40 	27.50%	$804.20 	72.50%	2012
13	Transformers: Age of Extinction	Par.	$1,104.00 	$245.40 	22.20%	$858.60 	77.80%	2014
14	The Dark Knight Rises	WB	$1,084.90 	$448.10 	41.30%	$636.80 	58.70%	2012
15	Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest	BV	$1,066.20 	$423.30 	39.70%	$642.90 	60.30%	2006
16	Toy Story 3	BV	$1,063.20 	$415.00 	39.00%	$648.20 	61.00%	2010
17	Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides	BV	$1,045.70 	$241.10 	23.10%	$804.60 	76.90%	2011
18	Jurassic Park	Uni.	$1,029.20 	$402.50 	39.10%	$626.70 	60.90%	1993^
19	Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace	Fox	$1,027.00 	$474.50 	46.20%	$552.50 	53.80%	1999^
20	Alice in Wonderland (2010)	BV	$1,025.50 	$334.20 	32.60%	$691.30 	67.40%	2010
21	The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey	WB	$1,021.10 	$303.00 	29.70%	$718.10 	70.30%	2012
22	Minions	Uni.	$1,018.90 	$324.80 	31.90%	$694.10 	68.10%	2015
23	The Dark Knight	WB	$1,004.60 	$534.90 	53.20%	$469.70 	46.80%	2008^
24	The Lion King	BV	$987.50 	$422.80 	42.80%	$564.70 	57.20%	1994^
25	Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone	WB	$974.80 	$317.60 	32.60%	$657.20 	67.40%	2001
26	Despicable Me 2	Uni.	$970.80 	$368.10 	37.90%	$602.70 	62.10%	2013
27	Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End	BV	$963.40 	$309.40 	32.10%	$654.00 	67.90%	2007
28	Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1	WB	$960.30 	$296.00 	30.80%	$664.30 	69.20%	2010
29	The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug	WB	$958.40 	$258.40 	27.00%	$700.00 	73.00%	2013
30	The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies	WB	$956.00 	$255.10 	26.70%	$700.90 	73.30%	2014
31	Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix	WB	$939.90 	$292.00 	31.10%	$647.90 	68.90%	2007
32	Finding Nemo	BV	$936.70 	$380.80 	40.70%	$555.90 	59.30%	2003^
33	Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince	WB	$934.40 	$302.00 	32.30%	$632.50 	67.70%	2009
34	The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers	NL	$926.00 	$342.60 	37.00%	$583.50 	63.00%	2002^
35	Shrek 2	DW	$919.80 	$441.20 	48.00%	$478.60 	52.00%	2004
36	Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire	WB	$896.90 	$290.00 	32.30%	$606.90 	67.70%	2005
37	Spider-Man 3	Sony	$890.90 	$336.50 	37.80%	$554.30 	62.20%	2007
38	Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs	Fox	$886.70 	$196.60 	22.20%	$690.10 	77.80%	2009
39	Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets	WB	$879.00 	$262.00 	29.80%	$617.00 	70.20%	2002
40	Ice Age: Continental Drift	Fox	$877.20 	$161.30 	18.40%	$715.90 	81.60%	2012
41	The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring	NL	$871.50 	$315.50 	36.20%	$556.00 	63.80%	2001^
42	The Hunger Games: Catching Fire	LGF	$864.90 	$424.70 	49.10%	$440.20 	50.90%	2013
43	Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith	Fox	$848.80 	$380.30 	44.80%	$468.50 	55.20%	2005^
44	Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen	P/DW	$836.30 	$402.10 	48.10%	$434.20 	51.90%	2009
45	The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2	LG/S	$829.70 	$292.30 	35.20%	$537.40 	64.80%	2012
46	Inception	WB	$825.50 	$292.60 	35.40%	$533.00 	64.60%	2010
47	Spider-Man	Sony	$821.70 	$403.70 	49.10%	$418.00 	50.90%	2002
48	Independence Day	Fox	$817.40 	$306.20 	37.50%	$511.20 	62.50%	1996^
49	Shrek the Third	P/DW	$799.00 	$322.70 	40.40%	$476.20 	59.60%	2007
50	Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban	WB	$796.70 	$249.50 	31.30%	$547.10 	68.70%	2004
51	E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial	Uni.	$792.90 	$435.10 	54.90%	$357.80 	45.10%	1982^
52	Fast & Furious 6	Uni.	$788.70 	$238.70 	30.30%	$550.00 	69.70%	2013
53	Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull	Par.	$786.60 	$317.10 	40.30%	$469.50 	59.70%	2008
54	Spider-Man 2	Sony	$783.80 	$373.60 	47.70%	$410.20 	52.30%	2004
55	Star Wars	Fox	$775.40 	$461.00 	59.50%	$314.40 	40.50%	1977^
56	Guardians of the Galaxy	BV	$774.20 	$333.20 	43.00%	$441.00 	57.00%	2014
57	2012	Sony	$769.70 	$166.10 	21.60%	$603.60 	78.40%	2009
58	Maleficent	BV	$758.40 	$241.40 	31.80%	$517.00 	68.20%	2014
59	The Da Vinci Code	Sony	$758.20 	$217.50 	28.70%	$540.70 	71.30%	2006
60	The Amazing Spider-Man	Sony	$757.90 	$262.00 	34.60%	$495.90 	65.40%	2012
61	Shrek Forever After	P/DW	$752.60 	$238.70 	31.70%	$513.90 	68.30%	2010
62	The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 1	LGF	$752.10 	$337.10 	44.80%	$415.00 	55.20%	2014
63	X-Men: Days of Future Past	Fox	$748.10 	$233.90 	31.30%	$514.20 	68.70%	2014
64	Madagascar 3: Europe's Most Wanted	P/DW	$746.90 	$216.40 	29.00%	$530.50 	71.00%	2012
65	The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe	BV	$745.00 	$291.70 	39.20%	$453.30 	60.80%	2005
66	Monsters University	BV	$743.60 	$268.50 	36.10%	$475.10 	63.90%	2013
67	The Matrix Reloaded	WB	$742.10 	$281.60 	37.90%	$460.60 	62.10%	2003
68	Up	BV	$731.30 	$293.00 	40.10%	$438.30 	59.90%	2009
69	Gravity	WB	$723.20 	$274.10 	37.90%	$449.10 	62.10%	2013
70	Captain America: The Winter Soldier	BV	$714.80 	$259.80 	36.30%	$455.00 	63.70%	2014
71	The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 1	Sum.	$712.20 	$281.30 	39.50%	$430.90 	60.50%	2011
72	The Twilight Saga: New Moon	Sum.	$709.80 	$296.60 	41.80%	$413.20 	58.20%	2009
73	Transformers	P/DW	$709.70 	$319.20 	45.00%	$390.50 	55.00%	2007
74	The Amazing Spider-Man 2	Sony	$709.00 	$202.90 	28.60%	$506.10 	71.40%	2014
75	Dawn of the Planet of the Apes	Fox	$708.80 	$208.50 	29.40%	$500.30 	70.60%	2014
76	Inside Out	BV	$702.50 	$344.50 	49.00%	$358.00 	51.00%	2015
77	The Twilight Saga: Eclipse	Sum.	$698.50 	$300.50 	43.00%	$398.00 	57.00%	2010
78	Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol	Par.	$694.70 	$209.40 	30.10%	$485.30 	69.90%	2011
79	The Hunger Games	LGF	$691.20 	$408.00 	59.00%	$283.20 	41.00%	2012
80	Forrest Gump	Par.	$677.90 	$330.30 	48.70%	$347.70 	51.30%	1994^
81	Interstellar	Par.	$675.00 	$188.00 	27.90%	$487.00 	72.10%	2014
82	The Sixth Sense	BV	$672.80 	$293.50 	43.60%	$379.30 	56.40%	1999
83	Man of Steel	WB	$668.00 	$291.00 	43.60%	$377.00 	56.40%	2013
84	Kung Fu Panda 2	P/DW	$665.70 	$165.20 	24.80%	$500.40 	75.20%	2011
85	Ice Age: The Meltdown	Fox	$660.90 	$195.30 	29.60%	$465.60 	70.40%	2006
86	Big Hero 6	BV	$657.80 	$222.50 	33.80%	$435.30 	66.20%	2014
87	Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl	BV	$654.30 	$305.40 	46.70%	$348.90 	53.30%	2003
88	Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones	Fox	$649.40 	$310.70 	47.80%	$338.70 	52.20%	2002^
89	Thor: The Dark World	BV	$644.80 	$206.40 	32.00%	$438.40 	68.00%	2013
90	Kung Fu Panda	P/DW	$631.70 	$215.40 	34.10%	$416.30 	65.90%	2008
91	The Incredibles	BV	$631.40 	$261.40 	41.40%	$370.00 	58.60%	2004
92	Fast Five	Uni.	$626.10 	$209.80 	33.50%	$416.30 	66.50%	2011
93	Hancock	Sony	$624.40 	$227.90 	36.50%	$396.40 	63.50%	2008
94	MIB 3	Sony	$624.00 	$179.00 	28.70%	$445.00 	71.30%	2012
95	Iron Man 2	Par.	$623.90 	$312.40 	50.10%	$311.50 	49.90%	2010
96	Ratatouille	BV	$623.70 	$206.40 	33.10%	$417.30 	66.90%	2007
97	How to Train Your Dragon 2	Fox	$618.90 	$177.00 	28.60%	$441.90 	71.40%	2014
98	The Lost World: Jurassic Park	Uni.	$618.60 	$229.10 	37.00%	$389.60 	63.00%	1997
99	The Passion of the Christ	NM	$611.90 	$370.80 	60.60%	$241.10 	39.40%	2004^
100	Mamma Mia!	Uni.	$609.80 	$144.10 	23.60%	$465.70 	76.40%	2008

Avengers and Avenger Age of Ultron at $3B total box office would like to have a word with you.

The Dark Knight scored in at 94% certified fresh from Rotten Tomatoes, while Iron Man 94% and Avengers at 92% also received critical acclaim from all movie critics.

CinemaScore® is the industry leader in measuring movie appeal among theatre audiences. For over 35 years, CinemaScore has been polling moviegoers at major movie releases on opening night to collect demographic information and calculate a distinctive CinemaScore grade.

Some CinemaScores for your small mind:

Avengers A+
Avengers Age of Ultron A
The Dark Knight A
The Dark Knight Rises A
Captain America: The Winter Solder A
300 A-

Just for comparison, we'll see the CINEMASCORE for "great" movies.

Pulp Fiction B+
Gone Girl B

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Comic book based movies aren't just for kiddies anymore. People are flocking to see these movies at an alarming rate, and not just for a good popcorn flick. They tell good stories also.

jrodmc wrote:The ongoing, dumbing-down of America; Exhibit A.

Money = Brains

Next up: Chuckie will explain, in true spreadsheet logic, why DirectTV is much more intellectually stimulating than reading a book.
The Simpsons
South Park
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Stimulate this!

ChuckBuck wrote:

Nalod wrote:Chuck,

Action movies have always done well at the movie box office.
WE talking about a medium that is written at a 3rd -5th grade reading level with pictures.
Children grow up reading comic books and to see them "come alive" on the big screen is a thrill.
WE had Superman TV show in the 1960's. It always did well. Each generation gets better technology so the reboots are profitable.

Comic book sales are doing well, but not like they were in the 1950s.

Twerk .Gif, I guess if you don't have the words you use what you can.

Chuck, Halloween is soon. You pumped up or what?

No need to retort to jrod. He don't know shyt.

A History of Violence, Watchmen, V for Vendetta, and Road to Perdition are all movies not at a 3rd to 5th grade reading level. All derived from comics.

Comic books are written for elementary school reading level. Box office success does not make it great story.
Nobody said something has to be good to make lots of money.

I suppose you like to argue. Bottom line is you made a poll about avengers and who would pair up with who, not to whether the comics were a valid medium.

You got called out for it being a juvenile like post and you really did validate the point.

What about a poll of which pajamas are better?

This one?

"Vs"

Bedding?

window treatments?

Oral hygene?

jrodmc wrote:Here endeth the lesson.

Nah, not really. Comic books have changed throughout the decades. Its a little more than Archie dates Veronica. They dealt with issues such as rape, genocide, torture, etc. Not exactly themes for kids. The fact that pajamas and Halloween costumes are made from superhero merchandise, I do recall when I was little a Robocop and Rambo cartoon as well as merchandising. ARE those movies fit for kids? I refer to it as boys with their toys. I like comic books and I collected since college and do so with my son. Its a pastime with him. I do read novels but I do enjoy the stories from the comics. Its no different than an adult liking WWE, Star Wars/ Star Trek. Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, etc. It is entertainment. So I am guessing that none of you watched any of the comic book movies mentioned? If you don't like it, fine, but why come here to bust balls?

In the movies Stark's independence is something to appreciate, as he has to answer to no one. That said, he has to answer to no one, feels no real need to do so, has a tremendous ego, and has proven to make questionable decisions.

Cap'n seems to have a purer motivation, freedom. He is initially a soldier, so his motivation may be unduly influenced by military and political leaders of questionable morality. The type that are looking after their own best interests, settling out-dated conflicts, etc., but it seems in his issues with Stark in the last film, he's looking more at the big picture of the freedom concept. One gets the feeling he wouldn't blindly follow orders that he "knew" were wrong.

With that, I'd go with Cap.

Forget the TV show, the comics are 10x more brutal!