Author | Thread |
AUTOADVERT |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/2/2015 12:32 PM
TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: You really are something else. You think that every single time someone posts a response that their post must address every conceivable issue and make a worst case scenario. That's not realistic to expect. Perhaps for someone who only posts once in a while an tends to post negative drivel every time he does decide to join the conversation. Anyone can sit back and point out what COULD go wrong with every player up and down the roster. Just because you made these negative points doesn't mean that's exactly how things will play out. There's always a CHANCE for injury in sports. Jerian is going to be 23 when the season starts. He's a more mature rookie than your typical one and done young player. I'm sure he'll have some adjustments but that doesn't mean he won't be able to handle the minutes he'll be given. He's not going to be out there asked to carry the weight of the team on his own. Afflalo may be on the decline or could just have been dealing with playing for 2 different teams in a short span of time and also injuring his shoulder. He's 29 going on 30, not 100. Notice how you had to come up with issues with Jose, Jerian and Gallo in order to put Sasha into a major role? This is really some negative fear mongering. Sure it could happen but why would any team be in good shape if they were down 3 guards and had to rely on the 4th? Yes if that all happened this team would be in bad shape, but then any team that lost their top 3 guards would equally be in bad shape. How about you bring up the lack of a 2016 pick again? Oh wait you did!!! Phil has stashed some talent so in essence this team isn't going to be empty handed in 2016 and in each of his drafts he's managed to pick up another pick and to take a look at UDFA's. I think you really need to relax on this particular point. |
knicks1248
Posts: 42059 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/3/2004 Member: #582 |
8/2/2015 12:37 PM
TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: Dude these are plan C, D, E moves, I'm pretty damn sure, Lance, sasha and admunson weren't on phils top priority list. Once the talent pool dry's up, it's time to focus on players that fit, work hard, and are familiar. The budget has shrank to vet min, and vets don't want anything to do with rebuilding and sitting at the end of the bench, and you don't want players that are primarily looking for a check because they have a little talent. I understand this signing, it's not like sasha's was sitting home or in a rehab clinic for drug abuse ES
|
holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
8/2/2015 1:13 PM LAST EDITED: 8/2/2015 1:53 PM
nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: You keep making this statement over and over and over again..Age and maturity has nothing to do with being able to handle an 82 NBA season...It has everything to do with understanding the league and player tendencies, the travel, the speed of the game, the physical play, 4 games in 5 nights, the diet it takes to sustain, the proper workout that keeps your body for 82 games..82 games is a marathon and you won't understand what it takes until you experience it...The mental aspect...Some players can't cope or keep up...Thinking a rookie can do it just because of his age is just silly... |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
8/2/2015 1:44 PM
knicks1248 wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: Phil has put a lot of stock into Grant. Grant needs to be Good for the Knicks grant cannot be a miss. Im a little surprised at pick 35 we must've had some serious insight before the draft that we were going to sign 2 more centers in addition to drafting kp. At this point imho you look at best positional player available if the talent is close. I just look at this team and I just don't see that guy who has the size to defend on the perimter from the 2 g(or the3) I can accept taking grant at 19 but I think we made a move at 35 that makes little sense with our asset allocation. I has Powell as the 23 best prospect and we can argue that he could've been higher. How many 6-4 215 pd guys who measured out as a top 3 athlete with his defensive skills in addition to his penetration ability? We were killing multiple birds with one stone with Powell. At worst he's a a2nd unit energy changer at best he is a first team all defensive guard who avg 17-18 points RIP Crushalot😞
|
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/2/2015 3:55 PM
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: SOOOOO you think that Jerian Grant who has nothing but NBA players in his family has no idea about what to expect or how to prepare for an NBA season? You and Triple Threat are killing me with this stuff. Sure he's a human and anytime you do something for the 1st time it's gonna be a learning experience, but if any rookie ever came in with more of an idea of what to expect I can't believe there is anyone better prepared than Jerian. |
holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
8/2/2015 4:01 PM
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: The point is you can't bank on what a rookie will give you.. |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/2/2015 4:26 PM
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: I don't know about banking on anything. I just think you ignored the fact that Jerian is an older rookie coming from a family with multiple NBA players who i'm sure will help him to be prepared for this initial season. Not many rookie players have those factors in their favor. Neither you nor Triple Threat seemed to take that into consideration. |
holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
8/2/2015 4:31 PM
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: Everyone will well aware of his family background and age.. |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/2/2015 5:02 PM
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: And yet you ignored the possibility of it having a positive impact on his ability to handle the experience of his rookie season. Thats a hell of a support system for a rookie in addition to him being older than the typical rookie. Doesn't guarantee he'll have a good rookie season but it helps set him up better than if it wasn't the case. |
holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
8/2/2015 5:04 PM
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: As you dance around the issue..That is the whole point isn't it..You can't guarantee what he will do as a rookie... |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/2/2015 5:59 PM
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: I haven't guaranteed anything. Simply making the point that Jerian may be better able to handle the usual Rookie pitfalls given his age, Maturity and the fact that his family is full of NBA players who can help him navigate the long NBA season. IMO there's less risk of issues with Jerian than your typical 19 yr old rookie who has no idea, may not have the same support system and isn't mentally or physically ready. |
holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
8/2/2015 6:22 PM
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: I'm just repeating what you have said, don't go contradicting yourself for the sake of an argument... |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/2/2015 8:10 PM
holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:nixluva wrote:TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: Never guaranteed anything. You are doing what a lot of people tend to do when debating me. You assume that i'm saying all will be perfect just because i'm not predicting disaster. You are suggesting that I said something I never said. In the end this is really not much of an argument at this point. My issue with Triple Threat is that his post was full of mostly the negatives of what could go wrong with the roster. It could also work out better than that pessimistic take. This isn't a team that is years into the process. This is going to be a year with some struggles since there are so many new pieces and key players trying to bounce back for down seasons. We also have some young players still learning. Still there is a lot to be positive about for the coming season. It's going to be very interesting to watch come together. This is why I think Phil is taking a chance on Vujacic. He's trying to cut back on the learning curve a bit. We know this isn't exactly a title team so those of us being positive about the team aren't suggesting this is some great roster, as other tend to assume we are just because we're not bashing the team at every turn. |
knickscity
Posts: 24533 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/2/2012 Member: #4241 USA |
8/2/2015 10:37 PM
If Sasha has a fully guaranteed deal he is certainly here to play. Honestly, I'd rather see him in the triangle than Calderon, as sasha has the experience and last I saw him used to be a decent defender.
|
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
8/3/2015 12:33 AM
TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote:My issue with Triple Threat is that ..... You are the one who started this BS. Don't try to come off like I just came out of nowhere and attacked you for no reason. You're the one who started this crap. TripleThreat wrote:nixluva wrote: I was responding to your post because it was full of worst case scenarios and a totally pessimistic take on the players you mentioned and the team overall. Of course those bad things can happen, but there's no balance to your posts, which is why I can't take them seriously. You think everyone needs to make posts covering every conceivable impact this year and in the future. Who the F has time to address all these issues every time they post? Most people are just making simple points, not writing their F'n dissertation!!! You make some good points but then you always go overboard with the negativity. TripleThreat wrote:Jerian Grant - Rookie. Let me repeat that again, since so many seem to simply avoid the issue - THE KID IS A ROOKIE. Rookies do things like hit a rookie wall in terms of endurance throughout the longer NBA season compared to college, they tend to struggle early on defensively, they tend to struggle with the speed of the game, many have foul trouble since they don't have an established rep and rapport with the existing refs, they don't know all the tendencies of most other players in the league like veterans do, there are a host of reasons why the future can look bright for Grant over the long haul, but that it's never a great idea to rely on a rookie floor general. |