knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:This kid can ball, look at his highlights from last season. great passing ability, has a great first step,fake, and uses both hands. His defense can get lazy at times, but he should be our 6th man off the bench and insurance for afflalo.
No clue why fisher played scrubby larkin 38 mins vs ledo 5 to 10, day in and day out

Because fisher had no clue what the hell he was doing

Of course you were hanging out at practice day after day watching Ledo's progress picking up the offense and defense, so you are uniquely qualified to know that Fisher had no clue about what he was doing...

At the exact moment moment Fisher *should* have been teaching Ledo to be an NBA star he was instead thinking of how best to ruin the Knicks draft position.

so we played larkin 38 minutes as part of the tank. God forbid he played Ledo more minute we might have made the playoffs, or worse yet, ledo might be worth keeping..like what are you guys getting at, It sounds like your thinking he did good thing by giving him sporadic minutes

Your protecting fisher like he no hand in the horrible season we just witness, even he himself has excepted blame.

What are these 38 minutes your talking about? Actually never mind.

WaltLongmire wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

fishmike wrote:good talent, good size, good athleticism... a couple of these guys popping will accelerate the rebuild very quickly. Galloway is very valuable. I wonder if we can get quality minutes from him.

I like Gallo but i'm worried people are expecting too much from him next season. We have to remember that he went undrafted and there is the dreaded sophomore slump so i'm just hoping he can show that he's growing some and give us good minutes. If he ends up starting i'd be surprised.

I see him as the backcourt glue guy. Some 1...some 2.(Yeah...I know we don't use those terms.)

He is a better outside shooter than he showed last year. Will benefit being off the ball more of the time, IMO.

He can also defend at both positions.

If I had to guess on his career I would say 12ppg, 4rebs, 4assists, 1.5 stls and many years of tough gritty play and a crowd favorite. A winner. Thats a great find for an undrafted player. Great teams are made of guys like that

IMO, he is a 6th man type player (he must develop in to, while working on his all round game, weakness's in defense, creating for others, and playing off the ball, so he doesn't have just a scorer's mentality and not do anything else, similar to JR Smith, I see him being more of a undersized SF, lacking the speed/quickness/handle to play and defend SG
However, last season, he was out of shape, NBA SHAPE, as he is playing vs a higher level of competition, and after working hard on his game this summer, he is a solid SG/SF *hopefully works on his weakness's)

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:This kid can ball, look at his highlights from last season. great passing ability, has a great first step,fake, and uses both hands. His defense can get lazy at times, but he should be our 6th man off the bench and insurance for afflalo.
No clue why fisher played scrubby larkin 38 mins vs ledo 5 to 10, day in and day out

Because fisher had no clue what the hell he was doing

Of course you were hanging out at practice day after day watching Ledo's progress picking up the offense and defense, so you are uniquely qualified to know that Fisher had no clue about what he was doing...

At the exact moment moment Fisher *should* have been teaching Ledo to be an NBA star he was instead thinking of how best to ruin the Knicks draft position.

so we played larkin 38 minutes as part of the tank. God forbid he played Ledo more minute we might have made the playoffs, or worse yet, ledo might be worth keeping..like what are you guys getting at, It sounds like your thinking he did good thing by giving him sporadic minutes

Your protecting fisher like he no hand in the horrible season we just witness, even he himself has excepted blame.

not protecting Fisher. Just not making comments that rank among the dumbest Ive ever read here like not playing Ledo more might have cost the playoffs. Fisher had a very tough season. His veterans were hurt the start the season, his guys in walk years wanted nothing to do with the team and there wasnt much else to lean on.

What are these 38 minutes your talking about? Actually never mind.

dude, all im saying is that anyone who states fisher didn't do a even halfway decent job, you give him a million excuses. I know the roster was trash, but why not play a guy who you have plans on keeping, instead of a guy you have zero interest in.

Ledo wouldn't have been the difference maker, but more PT wouldn't have been a bad Idea

smackeddog wrote:I wish Early had some of his fire- hopefully the hard work will pay off. Is he playing in the summer league? Even if this season is a stinker we have lots of young players we can watch develop: Ledo, Porzingis, Grant, Williams, Gallo, O'Quinn, maybe Shved if we sign him. Makes a change for us!

yep. Early has been a HUGE disapointment. I know he was just a second rounder, but i expected to see much more confidence.

kid had such a dear in headlights look last year. Looked like he has no business being in the NBA.

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:This kid can ball, look at his highlights from last season. great passing ability, has a great first step,fake, and uses both hands. His defense can get lazy at times, but he should be our 6th man off the bench and insurance for afflalo.
No clue why fisher played scrubby larkin 38 mins vs ledo 5 to 10, day in and day out

Because fisher had no clue what the hell he was doing

Of course you were hanging out at practice day after day watching Ledo's progress picking up the offense and defense, so you are uniquely qualified to know that Fisher had no clue about what he was doing...

At the exact moment moment Fisher *should* have been teaching Ledo to be an NBA star he was instead thinking of how best to ruin the Knicks draft position.

so we played larkin 38 minutes as part of the tank. God forbid he played Ledo more minute we might have made the playoffs, or worse yet, ledo might be worth keeping..like what are you guys getting at, It sounds like your thinking he did good thing by giving him sporadic minutes

Your protecting fisher like he no hand in the horrible season we just witness, even he himself has excepted blame.

not protecting Fisher. Just not making comments that rank among the dumbest Ive ever read here like not playing Ledo more might have cost the playoffs. Fisher had a very tough season. His veterans were hurt the start the season, his guys in walk years wanted nothing to do with the team and there wasnt much else to lean on.

What are these 38 minutes your talking about? Actually never mind.

dude, all im saying is that anyone who states fisher didn't do a even halfway decent job, you give him a million excuses. I know the roster was trash, but why not play a guy who you have plans on keeping, instead of a guy you have zero interest in.

Ledo wouldn't have been the difference maker, but more PT wouldn't have been a bad Idea

fishmike wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:

fishmike wrote:good talent, good size, good athleticism... a couple of these guys popping will accelerate the rebuild very quickly. Galloway is very valuable. I wonder if we can get quality minutes from him.

I like Gallo but i'm worried people are expecting too much from him next season. We have to remember that he went undrafted and there is the dreaded sophomore slump so i'm just hoping he can show that he's growing some and give us good minutes. If he ends up starting i'd be surprised.

I see him as the backcourt glue guy. Some 1...some 2.(Yeah...I know we don't use those terms.)

He is a better outside shooter than he showed last year. Will benefit being off the ball more of the time, IMO.

He can also defend at both positions.

this... Galloway doesnt have to be a star. I see him as a poor man John Starks with a better handle. He can shoot, play D, brings his lunch pale to work, fearless on both ends and doesnt think too much, just do what the coach says and play hard.

If I had to guess on his career I would say 12ppg, 4rebs, 4assists, 1.5 stls and many years of tough gritty play and a crowd favorite. A winner. Thats a great find for an undrafted player. Great teams are made of guys like that

Gallo reminds me a bit of Maurice Cheeks - probably the reason he wasn't drafted - too plain & vanilla for Today's NBA!

I am not ready to give up on him yet.

I think Ledo has higher upside however and I would like to see him get the opportunity first. Ledo had high potential out of HS, there is a reason for that. As he gets older, he will get wiser (maybe) and that may allow him to flourish. ALso I am sure Fish and PJax will have a good influence.

PJax is using all means to build a team and I believe it is speeding up the process. The team is much younger but also filled with higher caliber players. DWill was a #2 pick. Ledo was highly rated. JGrant, RoLo, Afflalo are all 1st rounders...If KP can ball even a little this year, I think the playoffs are likely.

That will help atttract FA's next year and fill in the missing pieces.

James Johnson has been a target of mine since 2010 and would elevate our DEFENSE with SF/PF's like Lebron/Paul George/Jimmy Butler/Tobias Harris, Derozan/Carroll, Millsap/Korver/Scott/, Giannes/Parker/Middleton/MCW and could be used on SG's and PG's at times like Wall/Beal and James Harden

He barely played last year int the FINALS and is an expiring at 2.5m, signing a 2year deal last summer
Is this a "realistic" and "fair" trade, remember that we would hold on to his early bird rights, and at 2.5m, his cap hold would be low, while we surround him with other defenders like Thanasis to learn with him, along with hoping to acquire Wesley Johnson UFA, maybe Gereld Green UFA, and Hackett/Galloway/Thanasis/Affalo

I like Shved but feel Hackett is by far the better defender and would help establish our identity on DEFENSE, he is tough, and good friends with Gallanari, if the price is right, who may be our target next season along with Whiteside, as we are unlikely to land Durant...

With CA, we need players like this, as we do not want Lebron to be defending Lebron/Durant and those type of players....

nixluva wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

NYY1NYK2 wrote:This kid can ball, look at his highlights from last season. great passing ability, has a great first step,fake, and uses both hands. His defense can get lazy at times, but he should be our 6th man off the bench and insurance for afflalo.
No clue why fisher played scrubby larkin 38 mins vs ledo 5 to 10, day in and day out

Because fisher had no clue what the hell he was doing

Of course you were hanging out at practice day after day watching Ledo's progress picking up the offense and defense, so you are uniquely qualified to know that Fisher had no clue about what he was doing...

At the exact moment moment Fisher *should* have been teaching Ledo to be an NBA star he was instead thinking of how best to ruin the Knicks draft position.

so we played larkin 38 minutes as part of the tank. God forbid he played Ledo more minute we might have made the playoffs, or worse yet, ledo might be worth keeping..like what are you guys getting at, It sounds like your thinking he did good thing by giving him sporadic minutes

Your protecting fisher like he no hand in the horrible season we just witness, even he himself has excepted blame.

not protecting Fisher. Just not making comments that rank among the dumbest Ive ever read here like not playing Ledo more might have cost the playoffs. Fisher had a very tough season. His veterans were hurt the start the season, his guys in walk years wanted nothing to do with the team and there wasnt much else to lean on.

What are these 38 minutes your talking about? Actually never mind.

dude, all im saying is that anyone who states fisher didn't do a even halfway decent job, you give him a million excuses. I know the roster was trash, but why not play a guy who you have plans on keeping, instead of a guy you have zero interest in.

Ledo wouldn't have been the difference maker, but more PT wouldn't have been a bad Idea

The Knicks knew what they were dealing with regarding Ledo. You are the one that isn't thinking clearly when it comes to Fish. Why do you think it was necessary to play Ledo big minutes? What he needed to fix wasn't going to get done in the regular season. People have this notion that players actually get better with in game minutes. Sure part of their process of developing has to come in game action but the biggest part of the process is working in the gym on their skills and conditioning etc. Ledo was practically ignored in Dallas and his skills and conditioning suffered. Ledo also needed a lot of work on his understanding of how to fit in the system wasn't going to get significantly better with a few more game minutes. Fish knew that. You're the one who just didn't understand that.

Your absolute right, i don't understand, neither do you,and neither did fisher. Were all trying to make sense of it. I don't know if ledo is a pg or sg, i geuss will go with combo guard.

But there is one thing I'm 100% clear on, LEDO is better than Larkin, in more then one way.