VCoug wrote:

martin wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

martin wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It annoys me that both Ford and Russillo got the Jackson quote wrong - he didn't say it'd take the kid five years to develop. He said no one would be able to judge if it was the right pick until five years from now. He actually said he'd be able to contribute in about a year. Meh.

...and the actual question Jackson originally responded to was about Porzingis being perhaps considered the top pick in the draft 10 years down the line.

I can accept if one of us jumps on something and does not understand what was actually said, but it annoys me when commentators don't understand something that was said.

With that said, I thought they wee right about a lot of things- especially that KP needs consistent minutes can't be coddled like a child.

We will see if Jackson has the guts to push Fisher to give him playing time, even if he struggles at first.

Ford was right about feeling as he did about KP in a NYK setting, and that for KP's development, Orlando might have been a better team for him in some ways.

Best line I heard= that after Cousins issue, was Ford saying that drafting Stein at 6 was like "draft make-up sex."

We have already seen Gallo get consistent starting minutes, why not KP?

I went back to the game log and Gallo's rookie season, which he missed a lot of due to injury, he only played around 15mpg. Year 2 he was playing 33mpg

I tend to think Kristaps will be between 15-20mpg his first season with a few injury issues as his body gets used to the NBA schedule and stuff.

We'll see.

Side note - I forgot that Gallo actually averaged 15ppg his second and third seasons here.

Langston Galloway, just last year, with Phil and Fisher.

On the other hand, Early barely played even when he was healthy.

Yeah true, and there is no doubt the Knicks were depleted most of the year, but they did at least show a tendency to play some youth

WaltLongmire wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It annoys me that both Ford and Russillo got the Jackson quote wrong - he didn't say it'd take the kid five years to develop. He said no one would be able to judge if it was the right pick until five years from now. He actually said he'd be able to contribute in about a year. Meh.

...and the actual question Jackson originally responded to was about Porzingis being perhaps considered the top pick in the draft 10 years down the line.

I can accept if one of us jumps on something and does not understand what was actually said, but it annoys me when commentators don't understand something that was said.

With that said, I thought they wee right about a lot of things- especially that KP needs consistent minutes can't be coddled like a child.

We will see if Jackson has the guts to push Fisher to give him playing time, even if he struggles at first.

Ford was right about feeling as he did about KP in a NYK setting, and that for KP's development, Orlando might have been a better team for him in some ways.

Best line I heard= that after Cousins issue, was Ford saying that drafting Stein at 6 was like "draft make-up sex."

I am more concerned about KP developing his physique and learning an appropriate amount of post moves over the next 12-15 months. If he played no minutes I would not care. I think once he develops his body and has more of a post dominant game--he'll be ready to go strong. I think I used the team "positional awkwardness" with KP and thats a BIG difference between him and a Frank Kamnisky. For all of those who poo pooed Frank--watch what he does this year. What Frank cant do--and what KP can do is become post dominant--although Frank could be one helluva all around player.

martin wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

crzymdups wrote:It annoys me that both Ford and Russillo got the Jackson quote wrong - he didn't say it'd take the kid five years to develop. He said no one would be able to judge if it was the right pick until five years from now. He actually said he'd be able to contribute in about a year. Meh.

...and the actual question Jackson originally responded to was about Porzingis being perhaps considered the top pick in the draft 10 years down the line.

I can accept if one of us jumps on something and does not understand what was actually said, but it annoys me when commentators don't understand something that was said.

With that said, I thought they wee right about a lot of things- especially that KP needs consistent minutes can't be coddled like a child.

We will see if Jackson has the guts to push Fisher to give him playing time, even if he struggles at first.

Ford was right about feeling as he did about KP in a NYK setting, and that for KP's development, Orlando might have been a better team for him in some ways.

Best line I heard= that after Cousins issue, was Ford saying that drafting Stein at 6 was like "draft make-up sex."

We have already seen Gallo get consistent starting minutes, why not KP?

Galloway also had some significant time in the DL...would folks accept this for KP?

It always comes back to the Anthony question, though, IMO.

If we lose some close games and KP is not developing quickly enough for some...What happens? I want KP to be playing 25-30MPG by the end of the year, but to get to this point he will have to struggle. Will Anthony be happy with this progression?

Should be an interesting season- Hard to predict what might happen without seeing who we get in FA.

I'm actually more interested in the fact that Jackson has eliminated Anthony's support base-Shump, Smith, and now THJ.

Smith and THJ, Anthony allies and Triangle killers are both gone, and any returning players from last year are Triangle converts. Phil may have a chance to build a roster with which Fisher can have more of an influence on the offense end.

Hopefully Anthony buys into Phil's vision...

Who knows, though?

dk7th wrote:he needs to play 20-24 minutes a game to acclimate to the new level of play. then build his minutes up as the season goes on. since it is impossible for the knicks to contend (unless we drafted the next larry bird), lets focus on developing him instead of catering to carmelo anthony. that would be the best part of "culture change." lets not squander the young man's opportunities.

dk7th wrote:he needs to play 20-24 minutes a game to acclimate to the new level of play. then build his minutes up as the season goes on. since it is impossible for the knicks to contend (unless we drafted the next larry bird), lets focus on developing him instead of catering to carmelo anthony. that would be the best part of "culture change." lets not squander the young man's opportunities.